This new brand of \"Punk\" sucks.
 

Why is it that everyone likes to listen to rubbish lately, like for example, this new "punk" band Simple Plan. What happen to real punk like NOFX and Against All Authority??

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It became mainstream. How else could a form of music die?

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Simple Plan, if I remember correctly, is a Canadian "band" (I apologise for them too) They aren't the ones that started this whole "new brand of punk" as you put it. It all started when Blink 182 released Enema of The State. Thanks to that album, we have to suffer through bands like, Simple Plan, New Found Glory, Good Charlotte and Sum 41 (to a lesser extent).

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punk is horrible its almost among the ranks of countr yand pop music

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I was pissed when I saw that Unwritten Law had a music video on TRL. Punk bands should not go mainstream. That goes against everything that being a punk is all about. [censored] New Wave music.

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Surely you mean 'latest' brand of punk as NOFX and their ilk can hardly be seen as old punk. Exactly what category would you place bands such as Sex Pistols, Sham 69 and The Buzzcocks? Now THAT is old punk. I get a bit upset when groups play entirely different styles of music to what they claim to, R+B is the major culprit as the crap that gets churned out these days, by anyone who can sing one word in 53 different wavering notes, is nothing like R+B as it was originally sung. R+B stands for rhythem and blues NOT plastic pop.

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this new brand of punk rocks. u guys r retarded. i hate pple like u guys bcus u think that punk was just all old [censored] and its not. punk has evolved into good things.

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I can't tell if the above post is sarcasm or just plain retardedness.

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Punk was all about, "[censored] you!" It was mean, hard, and fast. It's sad, because all these MTV punk bands are under the impression that they are hardcore or something. "I wrote a song about how much I dislike school. I'm bad-ass." Punk is for the outcasts of society. The weirdos, the freaks. It's not for jocks and popular kids, which is what it has become.

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I totally know what you guys are talking about. It's been pissing me off for years. Why the hell are they classed as punk?? As the post above says, that's not what punks about. Oh and don't forget Avril. I'm with MTV2, Avril is banned! I always think 'new punk' is so pathetic. The lyrics are so sad. 'Girls don't like boys, girls like cars and money, boys will laugh at girls when they're not funny.' Wow, check the skill. <font color="blue"> </font color>

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Don't get me wrong I don't necessarily dislike this music just please for the love of god - don't call it Punk coz it isn't. Sid Vicious would be slitting his heroin filled veins if he heard that.

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forget avril maybe she should play hokcey intstead of making that crap music

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Soft-core, manufactured, contrived and derivative are NOT punk. This new wave of Canadian bands may win lots of Nickelodeon awards for being the little rugrats' favorite band to play at sleepovers and in carpools, but they ARE NOT PUNK. They are a bland, watered-down, MTV friendly marketing gimmick. If you were born after 1985, you probably don't know what real punk is.

Go get a Ramones album if you want an introduction.

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I used to work at this mail-order place where they sold these shirts that had an anarchy symbol on front and "Punk's Not Dead" on the back. It was all I could do from laughing at the people who called to order them. I mean, a shirt like that really says it all.

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I believe that Thurston Moore said it best when he said something to the effect of (and i'm paraphrasing obviously):
"Any band that has a platinum record is NOT punk." He was talking about Green Day when he said this, but the point stands. The question is when does a band stop being punk, Is it when they sign with a major? Sonic Youth has been doing albums for Geffen for years, but are they or were they ever truly punk? I tend to think that there is only a small window in an artists lifespan that they can be truely punk before they "grow up" and have other responsiblities that take either energy away from the music there by killing it (these would be things like jobs and family), or signing with a major and churning out hits or at least trying to (and it is in this time that these guys start to settle down after about 2 years)j.

What do you think?

Dave

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[censored] that. While I do not think that Green Day is (or ever was) punk, I hate that people use signing to a major label as the stepping stone to becoming not punk. What then are the guidelines to being punk? I am guessing that rule 1 is: Make music, but under no circumstances should you be able to feed your family by selling said music. Bullshit.

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i swear u people think that punk is nothing but old stuff. u people r so freakin dumb. i agree that some of the new stuff is horrible but a lot of it is good. i have enough wannab punks in our school and they piss me off. so go to hell

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I'm not saying it's right, but i just think that by definition "Punk" is underground, and as such exists outside of the Major labels. Does that mean that the music made by signed bands sucks? not at all, almost all my favorite bands are on them, how else would I hear them otherwise. But there is something about the hunger that exists before a band "makes it" that typifies punk rock. I'm not an expert, nor do i pretend to be, this is just my thoughts on it as someone who enjoys all types of music.

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Wow. I'm so amazed at how what was once a youth and anger political/musical movement has become such a watered down parody of itself. I hung out with the "punk" crew sometimes in high school, but being a private school, most of us were fully aware that we couldn't be truly punk. We just liked underground bands, small clubs, skateboarding, knocking stuff over, that stuff.

On this note, check out last week's Onion

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Jesus Christ, Leave it to the Onion to be right on about that stuff (damn censer!). Great link DS!