The Gulf of Mexico

[freetoaster]

BP's Live Feed (http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html)

The Deepwater Horizon explosion happened on 4/20/2010.
http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2010/04/23/alg_oil_rig_explosion.jpg

I was just on the coast for a few days the week after it started. If it's not stopped today, it will be August before they try anything else.

http://media.economist.com/images/na/2010w22/201022NAP310.jpg

ftw.

http://media.cleveland.com/nationworld_impact/photo/oilspillpelicanjpg-57405b388a0351cf_large.jpg

What a bummer.

[phit_demon]

It's a horrible state of affairs. I can't see the live feed, but I can imagine from the pictures.

[freetoaster]

You might try it in another browser. I was trying for 2 days to get it on Mozilla/Firefox.

I finally got it on Internet Explorer.

Here's the URL: http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

They had a robot working on it with a rusty wrench about an hour ago. It's pretty strange to watch.

[Antonio_Bay]

You might try it in another browser. I was trying for 2 days to get it on Mozilla/Firefox.

I finally got it on Internet Explorer.


It's working fine in Chrome, too.



They had a robot working on it with a rusty wrench about an hour ago. It's pretty strange to watch.

I saw a bit of that.

I can't make out what's happening now.

[freetoaster]

It's like full blown megabudget film right now.

[JK]

But Obama's been on the scene since day one...

[freetoaster]

In the end it will not matter who is to blame.

[CichlidGirl]

Nope, it's a fuck up of epic proportion and only the fucking ocean is going to be punished for it. Ftw ftw ftw.....it makes me sick!

[freetoaster]

It must be the mud they're pumping into the well, but it's blowing out like a mini volcano right now. It feels like watching something happening in outer space, surreal.

[Shäne]

Oh fuck, not two of these threads. :rolleyes:

[phit_demon]

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3/phitdemon/clown-shoes-2.jpg
Yup.

[Aaron]

http://content6.flixster.com/question/56/44/94/5644948_std.jpg
What the fuck is the internet?

[TheHangingBrain]

Pretty messed up post from a man in oil and gas production talking about how BP and the government are fucking up the clean up efforts. (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/5/11/11558/1890)

[JK]

By the way although I'm sure JK will take this as a personal attack against him I need to be clear right off the bat that it is not.

Although if we were to blame people it would be the people who called for deregulation because regulations were hurting big business. This was also the people who said drill baby drill and when we said it wasn't safe they said take a shower hippie. So go ahead blame Obama even though you Republicans always want the government to stay out of your lives. I guess you can pick and choose what you can criticize your opposition over even if it makes you hypocritical and even if your parties policies caused the whole disaster to begin with.

One) Even though you say it's not, obviously my one, obtuse statement in this thread was enough to set you off. It's pretty obvious what your diatribe is all about...

Two) This is the first accident of this magnitude in 40 years. While the blowout, the utter destruction of the rig, the deaths of eleven men, and the subsequent leak are heart wrenching tragedies, off shore drilling has a pretty good track record.

Three) If the namby-pamby NIMBYs would get out of the way, these oil companies wouldn't have to drill in mile-deep water where the risks and the challenges are exponentially higher. There is oil closer in to the coast. Hell, there is oil ON land, but we can't get it because for some reason oil is bad.

IT'S A NATURAL SUBSTANCE.

And right now, it is what fuels the global economy. We can't put the entire world market on hold while some Gaia-worshiping granola crunchers try to figure out how to convert unicorn farts into electricity. Sorry, couldn't resist.

Four) In relation to No. 1 - how many times must I say it? I AM NOT A REPUBLICAN. I am a Constitutionalist. For all practical purposes, I am a Libertarian.

Five) Nobody here blamed Obama. He himself said he (both personally and by proxy through his administration) was on the scene from day one.

Six) I don't quite understand the last bit of your argument- it sounds like you're trying to parrot the pundits' attack on Bobby Jindal, when he demanded the feds get off their asses and do their jobs and was called a hypocrite because of his continued push for less government. If so, you failed horribly.

There are some things that the Federal government are supposed to do. There are some things that the Federal government shouldn't do but do anyways. Their response in this case was lackluster and abysmal. They (and you) can't blame Bush for that.

And rounding back to the start, you said this wasn't a personal attack on me, but you and I and every one here knows that I am the focus of your anger and vitriol, not some faceless entity or even the oil spill, for that matter.

So yeah... clown shoes.

[Antonio_Bay]

unicorn farts

This shouldn't be here, and does not involve farts, but I was reminded of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5im0Ssyyus), which my brother showed me recently.

[JK]

This shouldn't be here, and does not involve farts, but I was reminded of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5im0Ssyyus), which my brother showed me recently.

Sssssshhhuuuuuuuuuuush.

[JK]

Again it wasn't directed at you I didn't even read what you said when I posted it here it has nothing to do with you

Can you smell what you're shoveling there? :rolleyes:

[Aaron]

Michael, just stop.
Or at least dig UP, stupid.

[By-tor]

By the way although I'm sure JK will take this as a personal attack against him I need to be clear right off the bat that it is not.

Although if we were to blame people it would be the people who called for deregulation because regulations were hurting big business. This was also the people who said drill baby drill and when we said it wasn't safe they said take a shower hippie. So go ahead blame Obama even though you Republicans always want the government to stay out of your lives. I guess you can pick and choose what you can criticize your opposition over even if it makes you hypocritical and even if your parties policies caused the whole disaster to begin with.Yeah, nothing says "not a personal attack" like that shit, right there.

http://www.moonbattery.com/clown_shoes.jpg

[phit_demon]

I never singled any one person out.
Except that you did exactly that, in your very first sentence.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3/phitdemon/dancing_fools.gif

[JK]

You need to understand that criticism of a certain point of view is just that a criticism of a point of view, not a personal attack on those people who hold it. Once people start calling others "Un American" or "with the terrorists" is when it goes from civil argument to offensive. I never singled any one person out.

Where the hell did that come from???

[JK]

...

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3/phitdemon/dancing_fools.gif

That makes me giggle like a school girl for some reason.

[phit_demon]

That makes me giggle like a school girl for some reason.

It's a keeper. It can be the idiot equivalent of Funaki. :D

[By-tor]

Where the hell did that come from???The over-used bong.

[Aaron]

That makes me giggle like a school girl for some reason.

Ditto.

It looks familiar.

Captain Planet?

[JK]

Ditto.

It looks familiar.

Captain Planet?

When I first glanced at it, I thought it was Hank and Dean...

[freetoaster]

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3/phitdemon/dancing_fools.gif

It's actually of an episode Captian Planet. These two young men have just tried rock cocaine for the first time.

[TheHangingBrain]

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3/phitdemon/dancing_fools.gif

It's actually of an episode Captian Planet. These two young men have just tried rock cocaine for the first time.

It all makes perfect sense to me now...

http://www.anthony-fuller.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/biggums.gif

[CichlidGirl]

http://nickswitzer.net/wp-content/uploads/dave-chappelle-tyrone-biggums.jpg
Nothing unamerican about a peanut butter & crack sandwich!

[JK]

http://nickswitzer.net/wp-content/uploads/dave-chappelle-tyrone-biggums.jpg
Nothing unamerican about a peanut butter & crack sandwich!

God Bless America :D

You will do well here. :cool:




therealmichaelkirschner, however, seems to have had his feelings hurt and is systematically deleting all his previous posts. :rolleyes:

[By-tor]

therealmichaelkirschner, however, seems to have had his feelings hurt and is systematically deleting all his previous posts. :rolleyes:Not the ones we quoted. :D

[JK]

Not the ones we quoted. :D

http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/78493519.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=82EB172C4407816C9116A154542090627DBBEBD5EF454088 B644C5DE60C3573B


I know it's a petty shot, but jeez...

[By-tor]

http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/78493519.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=82EB172C4407816C9116A154542090627DBBEBD5EF454088 B644C5DE60C3573B


I know it's a petty shot, but jeez...And, I giggle. :D

[JK]

And, I giggle. :D

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_CmCNcryZ0Xs/SlEwf6I6-fI/AAAAAAAAAfQ/obZnIrWuu7U/s640/P7042213.JPG

I can't help myself...

[TheHangingBrain]

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a115/outkhazted/Fuckit.jpg

Hehehe...

[phit_demon]

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3/phitdemon/clown-shoes-2.jpg

[By-tor]

Mama,...
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BB4BO4j_ZgE/S0rOsL4HWWI/AAAAAAAAM9c/_59oIw90twU/s400/girl-airport.png

[CichlidGirl]

God Bless America :D

You will do well here. :cool:




therealmichaelkirschner, however, seems to have had his feelings hurt and is systematically deleting all his previous posts. :rolleyes:

http://imagesource.art.com/images/-/Screw-You-Guys--C11755105.jpeg

[freetoaster]

The live feed has been pretty active today if you guys haven't checked it (http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html) out.

[Erasmus Cunk]

http://iruntheinternet.com/lulzdump/images/obama-plays-sonic-2-ocean-12752548194.png

[freetoaster]

This is the latest satellite image showing the full extent of the massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

Oceanographers have predicted that crude oil from the leaking undersea well could be carried as far afield as Florida Keys, Miami and Cuba by strong currents in the gulf.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1279710/Experts-predict-Gulf-Mexico-BP-oil-spill-spread-Cuba.html#ixzz0pcw58sVH


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/05/19/article-1279710-09A724DD000005DC-763_468x602.jpg
Disaster: This image taken by a NASA satellite shows the oil spill perilously close to the U.S. coastline

[By-tor]

This is the latest satellite image showing the full extent of the massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

Oceanographers have predicted that crude oil from the leaking undersea well could be carried as far afield as Florida Keys, Miami and Cuba by strong currents in the gulf.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1279710/Experts-predict-Gulf-Mexico-BP-oil-spill-spread-Cuba.html#ixzz0pcw58sVH


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/05/19/article-1279710-09A724DD000005DC-763_468x602.jpg
Disaster: This image taken by a NASA satellite shows the oil spill perilously close to the U.S. coastline
http://rustytees.com/store/images/cluster-fuck.gif
:(

[JK]

They're cutting the damaged, crimped pipe off the well head now...

Fairly interesting video (to me, anyways...)

[freetoaster]

A different live feed. (http://www.ustream.tv/channel-popup/pbs-newshour-streaming) This one seems to stay on the leak.

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/jun2010/20100603_oilslicknasa.jpg

http://geology.com/nasa/oil-seeps/gulf-of-mexico-oil-seeps.jpg

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/jun2010/20100603_mapatlanticoil.jpg

"Oil from the massive spill in the Gulf of Mexico is likely to extend along thousands of miles of the Atlantic coast and into the open ocean as early as this summer, according to a detailed computer modeling study released today by the National Center for Atmospheric Research."
- ens-newswire.com (http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/jun2010/2010-06-03-02.html)

[CichlidGirl]

James Cameron is offering his assistance (http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/06/04/titanic-director-james-cameron-bp-oil/)....he has a lot of experience with deep submergence technology. He has some interesting stuff to say.

[Antonio_Bay]

http://www.shof.msrcsites.co.uk/ob.jpg

[freetoaster]

Now BP says they've given up capping the well (http://personalmoneystore.com/moneyblog/2010/06/22/blow-up-macondo-oil-well/), and the relief well may not even work after several months of drilling.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Hardtack_Umbrella_nuke.jpg/478px-Hardtack_Umbrella_nuke.jpg

...“Blow Up the Well to Save the Gulf,”...

We should probably be thinking about seizing their shit, all of it.

[JK]

I thought they were able to re-install the damaged cap.

[Aaron]

Does duct tape not work underwater?

[freetoaster]

I thought they were able to re-install the damaged cap.

The damaged device was never really a cap. The use of the word cap by BP and the media is a misnomer.

[JK]

My buddies & family that work in the industry call it a cap, too...

[freetoaster]

What's your point?

[JK]

My point?

You said BP gave up on capping it, but the last I heard the "cap" had been re-installed. Then you tell me it's not a cap.

I'm just saying that it's not just the media and BP who are calling it a cap.

[freetoaster]

Sorry this whole thing just really grates on me. I like how they slipped that "cap" word in.

These shit-bags are spending more on PR than anything.

Now the funnel that sucks up a tiny percentage of the oil is a "cap".

ftw.

[JK]

Cap is pretty much anything that goes over a well-head.

[By-tor]

Cap is pretty much anything that goes over a well-head.So, just like a foreskin, right? :D

[JK]

I am a Gentile ;)

[By-tor]

I am a Gentile ;)I can't even enjoy porn with one of those un-clipped bastards floppin' around.

[freetoaster]

Watch this (http://www.ustream.tv/channel-popup/pbs-newshour-streaming)

and listen to this $ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_v2OsC9yT0)

[TheHangingBrain]

I can't even enjoy porn with one of those un-clipped bastards floppin' around.

You're doing it wrong.

[freetoaster]

You're doing it wrong.

I must be porn deprived.

[JK]

I've never had any complaints :cool:

[freetoaster]

http://aswewalk.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/turtle-head-shot.jpg

[CichlidGirl]

So. It's still spilling. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccccccccccccckkkkkk kk.

[JK]

Technically, it's a leak. :p

[CichlidGirl]

Well that is reassuring!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uGdpRnuCmvY/SJobLlCWwPI/AAAAAAAAADk/xd28QTInkLU/s400/sarcasm_detector.jpg

[freetoaster]

At least Hurricane Alex (http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-06-30/hurricane-alex-gathers-strength-as-it-nears-the-mexican-coast.html) is heading toward Mexico.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo/two_atl.gif

[TomHarrington]

http://aswewalk.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/turtle-head-shot.jpg

*laugh*

[CichlidGirl]

I haz a lot of sad reading this (http://news.discovery.com/animals/fish-found-walking-in-gulf-spill.html)...

There goes the entire habitat of yet another fish.

Fuck this shit. And nobody will care.

[JK]

Why would anyone want to disrupt coverage of Lindsay Lohan's fingernails with news about the oil leak?

[CichlidGirl]

Why would anyone want to disrupt coverage of Lindsay Lohan's fingernails with news about the oil leak?

What a pitiful world we live in....

I think i'm gonna cry if I read any more articles about how badly the fish are being affected by this shit.

[JK]

What a pitiful world we live in....

The radio talk show host I was listening to this morning was opining on the fact that the morning news shows on the Big 3 spent close to an hour discussing that skank this morning and a grand total of 20 seconds on Donald Berwick's recess appointment. A blonde trainwreck with big tits or a man who vociferously advocates rationing health care being placed in charge of 1/6th of the American economy? :rolleyes:

[CichlidGirl]

The radio talk show host I was listening to this morning was opining on the fact that the morning news shows on the Big 3 spent close to an hour discussing that skank this morning and a grand total of 20 seconds on Donald Berwick's recess appointment. A blonde trainwreck with big tits or a man who vociferously advocates rationing health care being placed in charge of 1/6th of the American economy? :rolleyes:

http://i1033.photobucket.com/albums/a418/MaryPrankster/1229421116613jpgroflposterscommyspa.jpg

[CichlidGirl]

So...it stopped (http://www.ndchronicle.com/news/BP_oil_spill_live_feed_update_shows_oil_spill_stop ped__oil_in_gulf_of_Mexico_contained_in_BP_test_12 79295923/).

Thoughts? Professional opinions?

[freetoaster]

I'm keeping my fingers crossed. It could still break through the earth and that would be a whole new nightmare scenario.

[JK]

The amount of oil naturally leaking through the ocean floor every day far exceeds the amount of oil spewed from the busted BP well head. Of course, it's spread out across the entire globe, but still...

Again, not to lessen the degree of this disaster, but when compared to the total volume of the Gulf, the amount of oil from this leak is actually pretty insignificant- just looking at it from a purely scientific, unemotional point of view...

It is a disaster. But it will pass, eventually.

[BOP TILL U DROP]

Again, not to lessen the degree of this disaster, but when compared to the total volume of the Gulf, the amount of oil from this leak is actually pretty insignificant-

Excuse my naive nature, but what does that mean?

[CichlidGirl]

Well, you're a hell of a lot closer to it than I am...

And it will pass, but we don't even understand enough about the ocean to see exactly how badly this mess is going to fuck things up down there.

I've never really been a gambler...but I don't like the odds here.

[CichlidGirl]

Excuse my naive nature, but what does that mean?

There's still a lot more water than oil. So the oil will be diluted, eventually and currents take it all over the world.

Like with water and oil in a bottle, the oil will sit on top - but in a whole ocean it's like you've started shaking the bottle sending the oil everywhere. It will only come back together when the ocean stops moving - which it never will.

[freetoaster]

One third of the Gulf is off limits to fishing.

[BOP TILL U DROP]

There's still a lot more water than oil. So the oil will be diluted, eventually and currents take it all over the world.

Like with water and oil in a bottle, the oil will sit on top - but in a whole ocean it's like you've started shaking the bottle sending the oil everywhere. It will only come back together when the ocean stops moving - which it never will.
Oooooh I get it now. Thanks.

[JK]

Excuse my naive nature, but what does that mean?

The Gulf of Mexico contains about 6.43 x 1017 gallons of water. 64,300,000,000,000,000,000 gallons. The estimate total amount of the oil leak varies, but most estimates I've seen are around 5,000 barrels a day- over 85 days, ignoring the previous caps that slowed the flow, that's around 23.4 million gallons of oil. Even if it is closer to the high end estimates I've seen of 9000, it's still less than 50 million gallons of oil. So if we create a ratio of gallons to gallons, using the high-end of 50M over that big-assed number...

50,000,000
64,300,000,000,000,000,000

I have to do this part on paper...

That's 5 gallons of oil for every 6.43 trillion gallons of water. One gallon of oil for every 1.286 trillion gallons of water. If you take the ratio all the way down to the water volume being that of an average bathtub, the amount of oil would barely even be considered a trace.

Eventually, any oil not picked up by the skimmers will dissipate, evaporate, or be consumed by nature. It will take some time because of the concentration, but I highly doubt it will be more than five years.





On a side note, did you know that if you spill a gallon of milk, you must follow the exact same guidelines designated by the EPA for an oil spill when cleaning it up?

[BOP TILL U DROP]

Thems is some serious mathematics. I remember when working at Wal-Mart, we had this crazy book about how to clean up all types of spills. We had absorb-all for stuff like water, soda, and milk, then these pillow things for bleach....geez. I can't remember it all. Then it all had to go into color coded buckets.

[freetoaster]

Oil seeping from Gulf floor near well. (http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/07/oil_seeping_from_gulf_floor_ne.html)

[CichlidGirl]

Thems is some serious mathematics. I remember when working at Wal-Mart, we had this crazy book about how to clean up all types of spills. We had absorb-all for stuff like water, soda, and milk, then these pillow things for bleach....geez. I can't remember it all. Then it all had to go into color coded buckets.

It was similar at Home Depot, but I worked in the paint dept with all sorts of fun, hazardous chemicals. About 40 hours of training as well, mostly on that.

It was a pretty fun job, though it was hard work, and it's no fun trying to explain paint to people who just don't get it. Or don't want to listen to anybody under 50, for any reason.

[JK]

Huh... the oil might have naturally disappeared? (http://abcnews.go.com/WN/bp-oil-spill-crude-mother-nature-breaks-slick/story?id=11254252) Who'da thunk it possible...