A modest suggestion

[TomHarrington]

I'm going to break character here and be serious to the extent that I'm able. At least my gist will be. The reason I'm not posting this in the QSE suggestion thread is because I'm appealing to the community for a consensus and not seeking any official policy change regarding the message boards.

There has been some hostility as of late and I've been thinking: How could this have been avoided? It occurred to me that there is a pattern in all of this. It's only after recently scolded noobs declare ignorance of the customs that we make them aware of them. I suggest that we, as a community, develop an FAQ type thingy specific to this board. Something like a stickied 'READ THIS BEFORE POSTING!' thread. It would be something written by the community explaining the standard of etiquette expected of a new member. Again, not official rules, but guidelines maybe. Helpful suggestions. A survival guide for the uninitiated.

If you think it's a reasonable suggestion and have any ideas on what tell a new member to keep them out of trouble, please post them here. I have an idea or two, but I'll have to post them later when I have time.

Ciao babes.

[Jason Shiffy]

Allright I give this scottish lad 1 last chance... Don't like him (yet) But everybody deserves a second chance... Sorry everybody for seeing my dark side...

[TomHarrington]

Sorry everybody for seeing my dark side...

Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who.

Seriously, I'm not judging anyone (save the ShamWow guy. What a stooge. It should've been him, Billy!) and certainly don't feel like anyone owes me an apology. I think it was just a misunderstanding. But some people deserve the dark side, Shiffy. Always keep it at the ready. ;)

[Aaron]

While I do feel you slightly misjudged the situation that occured in that thread I do feel that this...

That particular scuffle is over, but it did get me thinking: How could this have been avoided? It occurred to me that there is a pattern in all of this. It's only after recently scolded noobs declare ignorance of the customs that we make them aware of them. I suggest that we, as a community, develop an FAQ type thingy specific to this board. Something like a stickied 'READ THIS BEFORE POSTING!' thread. It would be something written by the community explaining the standard of etiquette expected of a new member. Again, not official rules, but guidelines maybe. Helpful suggestions. A survival guide for the uninitiated.

...is something we probably should have done a long time ago.

I don't mind writing up a draft and posting it here to see if anyone would like to make changes to it.

Sound good?

[TomHarrington]

While I do feel you slightly misjudged the situation that occured in that thread I do feel that this...

I've done that sort of thing before, so it's probable. Hell, even likely. Now that you mention it, I should've just posted the FAQ idea and left out the rest. In fact...

I don't mind writing up a draft and posting it here to see if anyone would like to make changes to it.

Sound good?

Sounds smashing!

My kid is sleeping in late today. Sometimes he's alright, that one.

[Aaron]

Draft so far...

How To Survive the QSE Forums

1) Good grammar and spelling.
While there is a good mix of ages and nationalities on the forum, the majority of regulars are grown ups. We don't take kindly to "txt tlk" or just plain lazy typing. Please pay us the respect of communicating in an adult fashion.

2) Don't post needless threads
We appreciate that when you're new to a board the excitement of talking to new people about new things is strong. However, we've been here for years and have most likely had a better conversation about it long ago. So instead of cluttering our screen with new threads please do a search for what you want to talk about and contribute to that already existing thread. If there is no existing thread concerning your topic, then by all means please post a new one in the appropriate section.

3) Lurk, Lurk, Lurk
Some of us are dicks. Some of us are cuddly-wuddly-boogle-bears. Some of us have a sarcastic sense of humour. It sometimes can be easy to confuse which one of us is which. We advise that you read more than you post for a while when you first join as getting to know the place is a good way of avoiding arguments and hurt feelings.

4) No Spam
You made a video that you're proud of, or a website you think is the bomb. Don't make it your first post. If you want to get honest feed back and interest from the members here, then take the time to get to know us first because if you advertise when we don't know you it will only result in us telling you (in no uncertain terms) to get lost.

I'm trying to think of other common issues that come up

Suggestions?

[RobinHoodDaffy]

.....and HE doesn't post here.


Ever.
:D

[freetoaster]

I almost hate to ask...but what did the noob do?

[TomHarrington]

That's primo stuff, Aaron. I got nothing to add.

Some of us are cuddly-wuddly-boogle-bears.

Dude....that made me laugh something terrible.

.....and HE doesn't post here.


Ever.

Are you referring to me?

If you are, I'll have you know that I've been contributing half a post a day* for the last six years, mister.

If not....well...then..I don't think I have anything to say.

































*Number is an average based on total post count over the duration of membership and does not necessarily indicate actual posting frequency.

[Antonio_Bay]

Draft so far...

How To Survive the QSE Forums

Survive will scare people off!

I'd plump for QSE etiquette.


.....and HE doesn't post here.
Ever.
:D

Ha! A nice way to end the FAQ.

[Aaron]

Survive will scare people off!

Maybe, but let's face it, it's kind of accurate.

[Aaron]

So I've added

5) Kevin Smith
He's a good guy. He owns this place. He's made some fun movies and has a podcast here. Unfortunately, he doesnt post here. Ever. So if you'd like to leave him a message check out the forum he refers to on his show at www.viewaskew.com/theboard.

I think it will be fun to now say

Refer to number 5.

[Aaron]

SLIGHTLY revised version of 5

5) Kevin Smith
He's a good guy. He owns this place. He's made some fun movies and has a podcast here. Unfortunately, he doesnt post here. Ever. So if you'd like to leave him a message check out the forum he refers to on his show at www.viewaskew.com/theboard. Otherwise, stick around and we'll gladly discuss his work with you.

Just because I felt it was too much like "fuck off to the viewaskew board" without it.

[Scottbob75]

I'll put my name on that

[Rob101]

Does anyone really read the disclaimers?

[JK]

http://www.pobladores.com/data/pobladores.com/ca/ya/cayako/channels/wwen_castellano/images/2836039funaki_l.jpg

On both the guidelines and Rob's query...

[Aaron]

Does anyone really read the disclaimers?

Well it just helps really as they can't claim to be ignorant of our "guidelines" and it also let's us just say in future "read this thread" rather than get into a bitching match

[donkey]

i like the idea that the next time i use impropper grammar or spelling everyone can just say "See rule #1, bitch" instead of going on and on about how I'm uneducated and incapable of written english.

[TomHarrington]

i like the idea that the next time i use IMPROPPER grammar or spelling everyone can just say...

See rule #1, bitch. ;)

[TLS]

Good idea Tom! :)

[TomHarrington]

Well thanks for saying so. I think at the very least it isn't a bad idea for the reasons Aaron pointed out.

[TLS]

Yea, thank you to both of you. I think it will help make this site more pleasant for everyone.

[Aaron]

Any other suggestions on what to add before I take it to the duck?

[RobinHoodDaffy]

I vote to take it to the duck.

[beckpoppins]

i am pro this... ya'll are a scary gang of kids at the cool table after all.

[joep144]

Draft so far...

How To Survive the QSE Forums

1) Good grammar and spelling.
While there is a good mix of ages and nationalities on the forum, the majority of regulars are grown ups. We don't take kindly to "txt tlk" or just plain lazy typing. Please pay us the respect of communicating in an adult fashion.

2) Don't post needless threads
We appreciate that when you're new to a board the excitement of talking to new people about new things is strong. However, we've been here for years and have most likely had a better conversation about it long ago. So instead of cluttering our screen with new threads please do a search for what you want to talk about and contribute to that already existing thread. If there is no existing thread concerning your topic, then by all means please post a new one in the appropriate section.

3) Lurk, Lurk, Lurk
Some of us are dicks. Some of us are cuddly-wuddly-boogle-bears. Some of us have a sarcastic sense of humour. It sometimes can be easy to confuse which one of us is which. We advise that you read more than you post for a while when you first join as getting to know the place is a good way of avoiding arguments and hurt feelings.

4) No Spam
You made a video that you're proud of, or a website you think is the bomb. Don't make it your first post. If you want to get honest feed back and interest from the members here, then take the time to get to know us first because if you advertise when we don't know you it will only result in us telling you (in no uncertain terms) to get lost.

I'm trying to think of other common issues that come up

Suggestions?

SLIGHTLY revised version of 5

5) Kevin Smith
He's a good guy. He owns this place. He's made some fun movies and has a podcast here. Unfortunately, he doesnt post here. Ever. So if you'd like to leave him a message check out the forum he refers to on his show at www.viewaskew.com/theboard. Otherwise, stick around and we'll gladly discuss his work with you.

Just because I felt it was too much like "fuck off to the viewaskew board" without it.

So let it be written, so let it be done. I love it, whether or not people read it they won't be able to claim ignorance (like previously stated).

Also, may want to add that we are not the typical board......we are more like a group of close knit friends.

[phit_demon]

Also, may want to add that we are not the typical board......we are more like a group of close knit friends.

You just like to...jump right in there, don't ya? ;)

[joep144]

You just like to...jump right in there, don't ya? ;)

Sorry, I mean you guys are. I guess I'm still the red-headed step-child. I apologize for being presumptous.

*walks away to sulk in the corner*

[phit_demon]

Sorry, I mean you guys are. I guess I'm still the red-headed step-child. I apologize for being presumptous.

*walks away to sulk in the corner*

I'm just joshin' ya. You're like the excited puppy who humps everybody's leg. :D

[joep144]

I'm just joshin' ya. You're like the excited puppy who humps everybody's leg. :D

:confused: I can reach higher than the leg.

Perhaps I should be more of an ass?......guess it's just not my personality type.......very often.

[phit_demon]

:confused: I can reach higher than the leg.

Perhaps I should be more of an ass?

So you pick the leg by choice? :D

[joep144]

So you pick the leg by choice? :D

Only here because my gal isn't into that sort of thing. ;)

[mitch_the_conquistador]

Excellent!

This is exactly what this place needs. I know that MOST of us who post on here don't actually like the arguments, although I can't deny that I do watch it like car crash tv. This board is a mutual appreciation society, that can be hard to crack into, and I think Posting Standards are a neccessity not to scare people off and to maintain the feng shui that has organically arisen through the years.

[Firestone2489]

Draft so far...

How To Survive the QSE Forums

1) Good grammar and spelling.
While there is a good mix of ages and nationalities on the forum, the majority of regulars are grown ups. We don't take kindly to "txt tlk" or just plain lazy typing. Please pay us the respect of communicating in an adult fashion.

2) Don't post needless threads
We appreciate that when you're new to a board the excitement of talking to new people about new things is strong. However, we've been here for years and have most likely had a better conversation about it long ago. So instead of cluttering our screen with new threads please do a search for what you want to talk about and contribute to that already existing thread. If there is no existing thread concerning your topic, then by all means please post a new one in the appropriate section.

3) Lurk, Lurk, Lurk
Some of us are dicks. Some of us are cuddly-wuddly-boogle-bears. Some of us have a sarcastic sense of humour. It sometimes can be easy to confuse which one of us is which. We advise that you read more than you post for a while when you first join as getting to know the place is a good way of avoiding arguments and hurt feelings.

4) No Spam
You made a video that you're proud of, or a website you think is the bomb. Don't make it your first post. If you want to get honest feed back and interest from the members here, then take the time to get to know us first because if you advertise when we don't know you it will only result in us telling you (in no uncertain terms) to get lost.

I'm trying to think of other common issues that come up

Suggestions?

SLIGHTLY revised version of 5

5) Kevin Smith
He's a good guy. He owns this place. He's made some fun movies and has a podcast here. Unfortunately, he doesnt post here. Ever. So if you'd like to leave him a message check out the forum he refers to on his show at www.viewaskew.com/theboard. Otherwise, stick around and we'll gladly discuss his work with you.

Just because I felt it was too much like "fuck off to the viewaskew board" without it.

I'd like to stand on that thing.
http://img0.liveinternet.ru/images/attach/b/3/18/106/18106141_William_Murderface.jpg

[Sheriff]

See rule #1, bitch. ;)

The more you post the more I heart you.


So far I like the suggestions, Unca could add it to the first post of the 'Newbies - introduce yourself' thread, I think we should keep this thread going for a week or so to get everyone's input (or make changes if we need to).

Should we put something very quick and concise about trolling, internet memes, picture content (like, we are rated R for adult language, adult situations, and brief nudity, except in appropriate threads)?

I would add that you could change #4 to just "SPAM" instead of No Spamming, it's not really moderated rules we are trying to enforce, it's more what posts/thread will receive negative attention, in fact that might be a good way to start out, something about how this general set of social board mores/ethos can help the 'shakey baby deer walking for the first time' poster not get eaten by the wolves that hang about (or just your average board member having a bad day).


Hmmm, there is something else that seems to be missing, just can't seem to think of what it is...

[TheHangingBrain]

Being a n00b myself, I find these guidelines to be helpful and fair. I've tried not to create any frivolous threads, and the ones I have were only because a search turned up nil.

Here's to getting to know some of you folks better!

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumb_404/1243718568BZ247H.jpg

[By-tor]

I like the idea. I'll just miss frying noobs. :D;)

[Shäne]

http://www.masshist.org/cabinet/november2002/hancocksignaturelg.jpg

[donkey]

^ .... cock!! hehehe..

[Jason Shiffy]

3) Lurk, Lurk, Lurk
Some of us are dicks. Some of us are cuddly-wuddly-boogle-bears. Some of us have a sarcastic sense of humour. It sometimes can be easy to confuse which one of us is which. We advise that you read more than you post for a while when you first join as getting to know the place is a good way of avoiding arguments and hurt feelings.


I think im something in between... Call me a Cuddly-Wuddly-Boogle-Dick :D

[ozchick]

Terrific idea Tom and well executed Aaron.

[Kernal2306]

I like the idea since it may give a noob a moment of pause before making there first post a record in the dumbass department.

[Canadian Ryan]

The Scottish dude should do what I did after my first attempt failed. Lurk for awhile then create a whole new account and start with a clean slate :D

[Alexsad]

Screw the rules I have money...?

[puggso_32]

I doubt noobs who are eagre to spam away will read any introduction anyway if they have clearly come with an agenda.

:(

[Aaron]

I doubt noobs who are eagre to spam away will read any introduction anyway if they have clearly come with an agenda.

:(

It just means we'll be a bit more justified in roasting them

[TomHarrington]

I doubt noobs who are eagre to spam away will read any introduction anyway if they have clearly come with an agenda.

:(

It just means we'll be a bit more justified in roasting them


That's just the frosting on the cake. The real benefit belongs to the newbs who aren't total knuckle knobs, that they might be spared the rod.

[phit_demon]

...they might be spared the rod.

Spare the rod, spoil the n00b.

[TomHarrington]

Spare the rod, spoil the n00b.

So beatdowns should be mandatory for all new members? Hmm. Kind of like being punked into a street gang. I like it!

[phit_demon]

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3/phitdemon/westside-story.jpg

[RobinHoodDaffy]

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3/phitdemon/westside-story.jpg

AND YOU CALLED ME GAY?

[TheHangingBrain]

AND YOU CALLED ME GAY?

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a115/outkhazted/hilarious.jpg

[RobinHoodDaffy]

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a115/outkhazted/hilarious.jpg

Shut up, Donnie. The grown ups are having a conversation.:D

[TheHangingBrain]

Shut up, Donnie. The grown ups are having a conversation.:D

http://growabrain.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/donny_1.jpg

[TomHarrington]

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3/phitdemon/westside-story.jpg

That's great. They're an intimidating bunch. Yellow socks? You never wear yellow socks to a rumble, everyone knows that!

[Lotism]

I think this should have been done long ago. Great Idea and happy that it's in effect.

[TheHangingBrain]

Congrats on the suggestions and getting the eventual sticky. Good show!