The new flu

[Cuclean]

Just a moment to spare a thought for those who have fallen victim to and died from the new swine flu. I have a good friend in Mexico and have been in contact with him all day. There's talk of closing all boarders. I wish nothing but good hopes to anyone who may be within the regions and to those who know anyone there. Hopefully the suspected cases around the world are just regular flu.

The possible cases around the world (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&t=p&msa=0&msid=106484775090296685271.0004681a37b713f6b5950&ll=32.639375,-110.390625&spn=15.738151,25.488281&source=embed)

[JasterIsFett]

It makes me feel real good to see it a few hours away from me...

I hope the powers that be can figure out some way to cure or at least quarantine this thing before it gets out of hand.

[ZBarclay]

I've been reading about it a little bit. And from what I gather, it's a lot like any other influenza strain. If you have a healthy immune system, there isn't much to worry about, save being sick for a little while.

[Scottbob75]

As long as I get to keep BACON on my daily menu. I will be fine

[ZBarclay]

As long as I get to keep BACON on my daily menu. I will be fine

You're good. They say you can't get it by eating pork.

Of course...that's what THEY say. Fornus et Fornits.

[Valtries]

There was six mild cases found in Canada so far. 4 in Nova Scotia and 2 in B.C. Thinking about this kind of reminds me of how far we've come in medicine and how this flu would have killed probably millions by now if we were living in the 18th Century.

[Lotism]

First case in the United States was discovered in Queens. My borough.:( Would be messed up if I got it. Especially since I don't dig on swine. Hopefully this thing does not get out of hand.

[puggso_32]

Scotland has two apparently.

[JasterIsFett]

I think this is how things started in World War Z...

Of course...that's what THEY say. Fornus et Fornits.

What book is that from?!?!

[ZBarclay]

What book is that from?!?!

I'll give you a clue... Flexible Bullet.

Now turn off all your electricity.

[JasterIsFett]

I'll give you a clue... Flexible Bullet.

Now turn off all your electricity.

ah yes...The Ballad of the Flexible Bullet. It was bugging the hell out of me.

[JK]

I don't understand why everyone is shitting themselves over this... it's the Fucking FLU. You feel like utter crap for a couple of days and you move on. Take some Tamiflu or Reflenzamenzetina-what-ever-the-hell-its-called and you're good to go. Apparently, you only risk death if, just like with the REGULAR flu, if you have a weakened immune system due to being old, young, or sick with something else. Or if you live in one of those places where healthcare and hygeine are light years beyond what we have in the States, i.e. - Cuba.

Sorry, couldn't help the sarcasm at the end...

[Jeremy Beadle]

A flu is flu yeah. Dangerous to young, elderly and poorly. Trouble is it's mutant flu. Vaccines and antibiotics don't always work. Anything that can kill and spreads is a concern.
I woke up with a nasty headache this morning, but thankfully that's all it was. This sums up the 'hysteria' though.

http://z.about.com/d/horror/1/0/i/Y/-/-/FluBirds.jpg

[donkey]

I think I've got the swine flu cause i can't stop eating bacon...

[phit_demon]

I'm more concerned with Swine Fu.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3064/2898260132_f82cf32cae.jpg?v=1222673537

[ZBarclay]

...antibiotics don't always work.


Flu's (being viral) are not generally treated with antibiotics. They usually just have to run their course. Fluids. Rest. Repeat.

[JK]

How many people die each year from complications due to regular run-of-the-mill flu?

And too, viruses mutate all the time. The flu bug you catch this year is NOT at all the same as the flu bug you had twenty years ago, or even last year...

People are acting like this is Captain Trips... :rolleyes:




BTW, I'm stuck at home with a stomach bug. Whoopie.

[ZBarclay]

How many people die each year from complications due to regular run-of-the-mill flu?

And too, viruses mutate all the time. The flu bug you catch this year is NOT at all the same as the flu bug you had twenty years ago, or even last year...

People are acting like this is Captain Trips... :rolleyes:



That was exactly my point. People just need a good hysteria and apparently they were getting bored with the economy.

[JK]

I'm trying to figure out what we're not supposed to be seeing being done with the other hand while this one is showing us all about the swine flu...


... Jeez, I'm a cynical bastard.

[ZBarclay]

I'm trying to figure out what we're not supposed to be seeing being done with the other hand while this one is showing us all about the swine flu...


... Jeez, I'm a cynical bastard.

I think this is more of a case of people being generally ridiculous. Thank you Twitter. Thank you global information age.

[By-tor]

Jebus. A few years ago it was the Avian flu. This year swine. My mother is Chicken freakin' Little. I'm sure she's already wearing a surgical mask and hold up in a closet. :rolleyes:

[Erasmus Cunk]

BTW, I'm stuck at home with a stomach bug.

Infected! Nobody talk to JK! You can catch it over the internet!

[JK]

Infected! Nobody talk to JK! You can catch it over the internet!

I think it was the chicken I had for dinner last night... but chickens don't fly, so I don't think it was Avian flu. And I haven't had any pork...

[DarthMaulRat]

Let's all hear it for this year's SARS!

[Lotism]

Well it seems to always be on any given news channel. People are getting sick in New York, Ohio, Texas, California and one other mid state. Forgot which.

People are scared because people are dying. Ain't just a regular flu that Theraflu is going to make go away. And usually these things kill the very young and the elderly but somebody on cnn mentioned that it's killing those in between with healthy immune systems. But that's what the news is saying...

[By-tor]

But that's what the news is saying...Fuckin' sweeps week must be upon us. :rolleyes:

[Erasmus Cunk]

I think it was the chicken I had for dinner last night.

Oof. I had food poisoning off some dodgy chicken once. It wasn't pretty. I feel for you, bro.

[Sheriff]

I think that the thing that is concerning everyone is that the people that have died from this flu are 20-40 years old (opposite of the typical children/elderly that usually succumb to the flu). But that may be me spreading more misinformation...

But yea, mass media/twitter/bloggers etc. have definitely helped hop up the mass hysteria about this. I think that people should be focusing their paranoia back on shark attacks, far more people have died in the mouths of sharks than the swine flu.

Mad Cow (wait, did this ever move over to humans, can't remember) - England
Avian - China
Swine - Mexico
??? - USA

[DarthMaulRat]

Mad Cow (wait, did this ever move over to humans, can't remember) - England
Avian - China
Swine - Mexico
??? - USA
http://swimatyourownrisk.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/blogger/blogger/7194/799/1600/Dolphin.med.jpg
Killer Dolphin Flu. You know its coming.

[Cuclean]

??? - USA

Horse?

[Erasmus Cunk]

??? - USA

Grizzly Flu. This shit doesn't just give you the sniffles, it bites off your fucking face.

http://www.alanandsandycareyphotos.com/Wildlife/Bears/Grizzly%20Bears/images/Grizzly%20Bear%20Roaring.jpg

[ZBarclay]

People are scared because people are dying. Ain't just a regular flu that Theraflu is going to make go away. And usually these things kill the very young and the elderly but somebody on cnn mentioned that it's killing those in between with healthy immune systems. But that's what the news is saying...

The traditional flu kills THOUSANDS every year. TENS to HUNDREDS of thousands world wide.
Everybody needs to calm down.

[Aaron]

Grizzly Flu. This shit doesn't just give you the sniffles, it bites off your fucking face.

LOLertanks

[RobinHoodDaffy]

I have a friend on Twitter that summed it all up something like this: Killer flu comes to America and Americans respond in the only way they know how, blame Mexicans.:D

[Lotism]

The traditional flu kills THOUSANDS every year. TENS to HUNDREDS of thousands world wide.
Everybody needs to calm down.

Doesn't it usually just kill children and elderly?

[ZBarclay]

Doesn't it usually just kill children and elderly?

In America, Canada, Europe and other developed nations, yes. But in third world countries...it pretty much runs over everyone. I'm pretty sure that the people in the "prime of life" demo that are dying are not poster children for health and fitness.

*Edit*
And to add...
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/28/regular.flu/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
Again...everyone needs to relax.

[dtcb]

IF it causes panic.....I'm all for it.

I like working from home during an Epidemic.


SARS was awesome! Hong Kong was in "work from home" mode for weeks.

Bring on the chicken, swine, civet cat, cow, fish, dolphine, monkey flu!!!! Seen it all before. It never really gets the numbers compared to other things.

Oh, and swine flu broke out in china in 2007. It didn't get coverage. why? Because china didn't want it to get coverage. How do you like them apples? course if you live in mainland china; you really don't know what's going to kill you; there's so much to choose from. Pollution, fake food, poisoned food, disease, poisoned medicine to cure the poisoning, natural disaster, man made disaster, pollution again, government "intervention" or the school next to your house explodes because the elementary school kids were making fireworks (http://users.skynet.be/astrologiearchief/pyrotech.htm) to pay for their books, and your building was so poorly built that it and the other 20 around it fall like a deck of cards. I've seen a bus split in two by a hauler truck and body parts strewn across the street like confetti......while riding a bus going in the other direction. You have better odds of dying a thousand different ways than flu of any kind.

I think flu is brought up every time we need to look in the other direction when something else much worse is going on. I wouldn't be suprised if some major tax hike was coming our way; or some major fiscal fiasco.

[JK]

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I think flu is brought up every time we need to look in the other direction when something else much worse is going on. I wouldn't be suprised if some major tax hike was coming our way; or some major fiscal fiasco.

I'm trying to figure out what we're not supposed to be seeing being done with the other hand while this one is showing us all about the swine flu...


... Jeez, I'm a cynical bastard.

See... I'm not the only one...

[RobinHoodDaffy]

See... I'm not the only one...

Sounds like me talking about the last administration.:D

[JK]

Sounds like me talking about the last administration.:D

I've been saying it for 17 years...

http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/upload/2009/04/weekend_diversion_do_tinfoil_h/tinfoil-hat.jpg

:D

[RobinHoodDaffy]

Ho-ley Jeebus. If I was drinking milk, it would have shot right out the ol' nose.

[Firestone2489]

I've never really told anyone what my political affiliation is so I'll just say it, I would be classified as a Libertarian.

[dtcb]

I've been saying it for 17 years...

http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/upload/2009/04/weekend_diversion_do_tinfoil_h/tinfoil-hat.jpg

:D

Now that's a hat!


You beat me to the punch. I was going to say; every administration says that about the last administration. Reagan blamed Carter for everything. It really doesn't matter who is in office. A politician is a politician. and administration is just a bunch of power hungry people proping up someone while they spend your tax dollars. Obama has just as many filthy little shits running around behind him as Bush did. He can't avoid it.

Look up politician in a dictionary and they'd show a picture of Teddy Kennedy; a drunk womanizer. Look up 'most successful' politicians in an encyclopedia and there would be a picture of Hitler.

p.s. I think Teddy gave the Obama's a portugeuse water dog because they shed and slobber and take giant dumps. That dog is going to be a pain in the ass. Just like his time in office (whether it be 4 or 8). He's screwed. He couldn't have been handed a more devestated country short of a "Fallout 3" scenario.
http://www.screensaversrus.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/fallout-3.jpg

[Blast Thickneck]

I think flu is brought up every time we need to look in the other direction when something else much worse is going on. I wouldn't be suprised if some major tax hike was coming our way; or some major fiscal fiasco.

To be fair, I think the government is taking more of the 'calm the fuck down' route while the media is in full on Armageddon mode. Though I think the media absolutely wants something new and fresh to talk about, because the economy talk is getting stale. Something is only a crisis as long as the American public will watch breaking news about it. Lou Dobbs and Anderson Cooper don't care about the economy, they just want to yell about the hot issue, and right now it's people wigging out over this stuff, so they switch their tune.

All I'm waiting for is Jim Carrey's next 'vaccines cause autism!' article about this.



http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/wdyt_photo1.article.jpg
Let's see if I can recall what precautions I took during the last outbreak of swine flu back in 1976. Oh, yes, I bought some oregano from a guy at an Atlanta Rhythm Section concert and scorched my chest trying to iron on a 'Beaver Patrol' decal

[J_Kat]

Oh, and swine flu broke out in china in 2007. It didn't get coverage. why? Because china didn't want it to get coverage. How do you like them apples? course if you live in mainland china; you really don't know what's going to kill you; there's so much to choose from. Pollution, fake food, poisoned food, disease, poisoned medicine to cure the poisoning, natural disaster, man made disaster, pollution again, government "intervention" or the school next to your house explodes because the elementary school kids were making fireworks (http://users.skynet.be/astrologiearchief/pyrotech.htm) to pay for their books, and your building was so poorly built that it and the other 20 around it fall like a deck of cards. I've seen a bus split in two by a hauler truck and body parts strewn across the street like confetti......while riding a bus going in the other direction. You have better odds of dying a thousand different ways than flu of any kind.

I think flu is brought up every time we need to look in the other direction when something else much worse is going on. I wouldn't be suprised if some major tax hike was coming our way; or some major fiscal fiasco.


Appreciate that little window on China dtcb, I think its important to know. That link seems to lead to a dubious "explosions linked with astrology" page but I've no reason not to believe what you say.

As for the porky-poorlies seems like just another thing for the well to do to be vicariously entertained whilst the distinctly not well to do are the only ones actually in danger.

I genuinely hope it gets handled properly in Mexico, maybe the U.S/UK could gift some of its stockpiles of medicine over there? NO? Oh well just a thought.

[Louise]

The two confirmed cases in Scotland are in Falkirk which is only 13 miles away from me, don’t worry though I should be alright I don’t go there much;) The poor buggers have just come back from their honeymoon! They are still in hospital, probably picked up MRSA by now too:eek:

[JK]

...

As for the porky-poorlies seems like just another thing for the well to do to be vicariously entertained whilst the distinctly not well to do are the only ones actually in danger.

I genuinely hope it gets handled properly in Mexico, maybe the U.S/UK could gift some of its stockpiles of medicine over there? NO? Oh well just a thought.

But, but... Mexico has universal health care!!!

:rolleyes:

So... the U.S. and the U.K. are to be shamed for practicing good health and hygiene, thusly averting hundreds of deaths caused by complications due to the sniffles?

Give me a freaking break...

[Firestone2489]

I genuinely hope it gets handled properly in Mexico, maybe the U.S/UK could gift some of its stockpiles of medicine over there? NO? Oh well just a thought.

I say fuck 'em. We help out countries way too much as it is. I guess I'm just kind of a non-interventionist, so my opinion may be biased.

[J_Kat]

But, but... Mexico has universal health care!!!

:rolleyes:

So... the U.S. and the U.K. are to be shamed for practicing good health and hygiene, thusly averting hundreds of deaths caused by complications due to the sniffles?

Give me a freaking break...

Lol well I can't speak for the US but the UK has had slipping hygiene standards since the Victorian age, we avoid thousands of deaths for one reason only, truckloads of cash.

There are just five confirmed cases in the UK and some of the steps we're able to take? Just casually increasing our anti-viral stockpiles from 35million to 50million.


Just to put it in perspective Mexico's annual budget for universal health services is about 5 billion dollars, servicing around 109million people.

The UK's NHS has an annual budget of about 110billion pounds... for about 61 million people.



Don't get me wrong, I hear the argument that in a genuine pandemic case perhaps its necessary to be every country for itself, but wouldn't flying over the UK's extra 15million anti-viral doses planned, over to Mexico, actually be more effective in helping everyone?

[ZBarclay]

See... I'm not the only one...

Thirdeded.

[JK]

Lol well I can't speak for the US but the UK has had slipping hygiene standards since the Victorian age, we avoid thousands of deaths for one reason only, truckloads of cash.


So a decent diet, a daily bath, hand washing, teeth brushing etc has absolutely nothing do with health? It's all about how much money you have?

How old are you? Just curious.

[ZBarclay]

Lol well I can't speak for the US but the UK has had slipping hygiene standards since the Victorian age, we avoid thousands of deaths for one reason only, truckloads of cash.


Really? REALLY? Slipping?
We're thinking of the same Victorian Age right? The Victorian Age where people wore white makeup and often added a brown or black "mole" dot. The "mole" dot added not because they were pretty but because they often covered up herpes sores? The same Victorian Age that had rampant cholera, tuberculosis, influenza, and syphilis outbreaks? THAT Victorian Age?

[JK]

Really? REALLY? Slipping?
We're thinking of the same Victorian Age right? The Victorian Age where people wore white makeup and often added a brown or black "mole" dot. The "mole" dot added not because they were pretty but because they often covered up herpes sores? The same Victorian Age that had rampant cholera, tuberculosis, influenza, and syphilis outbreaks? THAT Victorian Age?

Yeah! What he said...

[J_Kat]

So a decent diet, a daily bath, hand washing, teeth brushing etc has absolutely nothing do with health? It's all about how much money you have?

They've got very very little to do with national health compared to money is what I'm saying. Mexicans aren't in the shitter cos they don't take enough baths :cool:

Really? REALLY? Slipping?
We're thinking of the same Victorian Age right? The Victorian Age where people wore white makeup and often added a brown or black "mole" dot. The "mole" dot added not because they were pretty but because they often covered up herpes sores? The same Victorian Age that had rampant cholera, tuberculosis, influenza, and syphilis outbreaks? THAT Victorian Age?

heh okay, I was really just thinking of hospitals, which in those days were scrubbed fucking spotless (well probably only the well to do ones again) cos I was responding to the thousands that die in poorer countries from complications from simple diseases. We don't have more die from complications in the US/UK because of brushing our teeth every day, or from any other hygiene practice, we don't have them cos we have the drugs money and infrastructure to minimise them, simple.

All I was trying to point out was its not happening in Mexico just because those "dirty buggers don't wash their hands enough". Or that the US/Uk is all gravy cos "we practice good health and good hygiene", like feck we do, but you can always do it a bit better with more money :rolleyes:

[JK]

Have you ever been to Mexico?!?

And I'm not talking the tourist traps.

[J_Kat]

Have you ever been to Mexico?!?

And I'm not talking the tourist traps.


Well that's the problem aint it? Racial stereotypes often having their foundations in fact, but insinuating that's why they're boned and we're safe is dubious ground amigo. So I was just offering some other possible reasons and differences between Mexico and the US/UK :p

[ZBarclay]

heh okay, I was really just thinking of hospitals, which in those days were scrubbed fucking spotless (well probably only the well to do ones again) cos I was responding to the thousands that die in poorer countries from complications from simple diseases. We don't have more die from complications in the US/UK because of brushing our teeth every day, or from any other hygiene practice, we don't have them cos we have the drugs money and infrastructure to minimise them, simple.

All I was trying to point out was its not happening in Mexico just because those "dirty buggers don't wash their hands enough". Or that the US/Uk is all gravy cos "we practice good health and good hygiene", like feck we do, but you can always do it a bit better with more money :rolleyes:

Look...and this isn't a normal comment for me...I'm not saying this to be a prick, because I think what you were trying to say and what you actually typed might not be the same thing...go back and reread that and see if it makes sense.

Well that's the problem aint it? Racial stereotypes often having their foundations in fact, but insinuating that's why they're boned and we're safe is dubious ground amigo. So I was just offering some other possible reasons and differences between Mexico and the US/UK :p
And really...not very dubious. Hygiene standards are different there. If your hygiene is not good, you are more likely to be sick. Fact. You can't argue against fact. You can keep arguing opinion all day...but that won't really get anyone anywhere.

[JK]

Well that's the problem aint it? Racial stereotypes often having their foundations in fact, but insinuating that's why they're boned and we're safe is dubious ground amigo. So I was just offering some other possible reasons and differences between Mexico and the US/UK :p

Here we go again, implying I'm racist. :rolleyes:

I've been to Mexico more times than you can count. I spent a lot of summers across the border and despite what you think, it's not a stereotype- the place is a SHIT HOLE, especially along the borders. A corrupt, dirty country run by elitists & drug cartels and populated by a bunch of people who just don't give a shit.

[Blast Thickneck]

CNN breaking headline:
First swine flu death in U.S. reported

Yeah, but it was a two year old Mexican child who came to Texas to get treated. At least they're not trying to scare people with headlines or anything :rolleyes:.

[J_Kat]

Here we go again, implying I'm racist. :rolleyes:

I've been to Mexico more times than you can count. I spent a lot of summers across the border and despite what you think, it's not a stereotype- the place is a SHIT HOLE, especially along the borders. A corrupt, dirty country run by elitists & drug cartels and populated by a bunch of people who just don't give a shit.

But that's not despite what I think, I make no assumptions about the state of Mexico cos I've never been there, and your not the first person to tell me it really is a shithole, including many Mexicans. But thats just what I was saying, just cos its true doesn't stop it being a racial stereotype and its always dangerous to attribute a racial stereotype as the cause of anything, which is not to say you can't but you've just gotta be careful about it and have good reasons backing you up in order not to sound just a touch racist. And I repeat, the higher deaths due to complications has almost bugger all to do with hygiene practices and everything to do with money. The corruption stereotype in fact would've been a much more compelling criticism to level at Mexico, but the budget numbers I listed illustrates even if they were all angels they'd still be having a hard time of it.

[Aaron]

Here we go again, implying I'm racist. :rolleyes:

Cracker!

[ZBarclay]

But thats just what I was saying, just cos its true doesn't stop it being a racial stereotype
When something is established as truth, rather than a generalized statement based on minority of occurances, it becomes fact. Not a stereotype. Stereotypes are generalizations that may be true. Facts are observations that are proven to be true.

And I repeat, the higher deaths due to complications has almost bugger all to do with hygiene practices and everything to do with money.
That is just not true. Compare the numbers of those who die of the regular flu in industrialized nations. Those who die generally (of course with some outliers) fall into three categories: The very young, the elderly, and those with lowered immune systems.
Throw out lowered immune systems due to cancer treatment and immunodeficiency diseases and what else lowers your immune system? Your body's inability to keep up with the barrage of the virus attacking it. The simple practice of good hygiene (not excessive hygiene, as that has its own set of disadvantages in regards to the immune system) gives your immune system a leg up and in some cases is the major barrier between you...and disease.
The main difference between an argument and a discussion is that arguments are a battle of opinions, discussions are a comparison of facts. Talk about what you feel and think less, and the facts that you know more.

[Aaron]

VIVA LA MEXICO!

http://dallasvintageshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/im000254.JPG

lalalalalalalaaaaaaa lalalalalalaaaaaaaaaa lalalalalalaaaaaaaa lalalalalala!

[Blast Thickneck]

They fucked with the wrong Mexican
http://www.pictureshowpundits.com/misc/silver_cines/2008/2008_trejo.jpg

[ZBarclay]

http://www.best-otr.com/cisco%20kid.bmp
Hey Pancho! Hey Cisco! Let's riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide!

See...now, that's a stereotype.

[Aaron]

Senior Speeeeeeeeeedy

http://www.xispas.com/blog/images/nov2006/speedy.jpg

[By-tor]

Yesterday I ate a pork rind. Today I sneezed.

I AM GONNA FUCKIN" DIE!!!!!!!

[J_Kat]

Heheh ZB I wanna reply but don't wanna piss on all the commendable attempts to keep this thread light-hearted.

So in that spirit...

http://la.indymedia.org/uploads/2004/04/lgsm34cover.jpggohbg8.jpg

Mmm Mexcellent.

[Valtries]

Wow, this escalated very quickly. Now if someone could toss in a Cheech and Chong reference I would say we have most mexican sterotypes spoken for.

I would still like to know more about this flu. There's 13 confirmed cases in Canada now. 3 in BC, 4 in Nova Scotia, 4 in Ontario, and 2 in Alberta. Still no deaths though.

Interestingly the samples are being tested in Winnipeg, and in Ontario they are developing a newer testing method that should be able to detect swine flu within two days and possibly a day.

Lets put this topic back on track.

[RobinHoodDaffy]

Believe me, around here, off track is on track. Besides, this one needed a vacation.

[JasterIsFett]

Believe me, around here, off track is on track. Besides, this one needed a vacation.

There's a track?

[Wade Wilson]

For some reason the phrase Mexican flu sounds really dirty to me, it sounds like a bizarre sex position or something...

[ZBarclay]

Interestingly the samples are being tested in Winnipeg, and in Ontario they are developing a newer testing method that should be able to detect swine flu within two days and possibly a day.

Lets put this topic back on track.

If your joints ache...you don't feel good...and maybe you're vomiting or have diarrhea...you probably have the flu. Drink some fluids. Rest. Jesus Christ.

[By-tor]

Wow, this escalated very quickly. Now if someone could toss in a Cheech and Chong reference I would say we have most mexican sterotypes spoken for.

Lets put this topic back on track.
Sure...
http://www.dirtyharrysplace.com/movienews/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/cheech-and-chong.jpg
You asked for it.

[Blast Thickneck]

in Ontario they are developing a newer testing method that should be able to detect swine flu within two days and possibly a day.

I think we all know where this is going ...

http://retrocrush.buzznet.com/scary/thingblood.jpg

[Lotism]

have good reasons backing you up in order not to sound just a touch racist.

Over 10,475 drug cartel related deaths in 3 years alone. 7 Police shot dead today that I read. It's a shit hole.

[Valtries]

If your joints ache...you don't feel good...and maybe you're vomiting or have diarrhea...you probably have the flu. Drink some fluids. Rest. Jesus Christ.

I'm and the majority of response authorities are saying you should get yourself tested. They need to figure out how quickly this virus is spreading, how it is being transmitted to have efficient methods of slowing the spread and for applying aid where's it's needed the most.

That's how it works in a perfect society anyways.

I hope you're right in that is not something to worry about, but it's got kind of that zombie apocalypse ring to it.

[By-tor]

... but it's got kind of that zombie apocalypse ring to it.
So did Legionairre's Disease and SARS.

[RobinHoodDaffy]

Bt you've just gotta be careful about it and have good reasons backing you up in order not to sound just a touch racist.

Having a disagreement on the hygiene of a poor country is not anything to sound racist about. Hell, I work with a shit ton of Mexicans and they are all glad to be out and have told me never to go because it is poor, filthy and violent.

It's not like we are saying the deaths are because "the spics" are filthy. But cultural standards are different. That is just the way things are. I used to work for a restaurant that got fined because the largely Mexican staff did not wash their hands after using the restroom. Ick.

Now, go ahead and paint me out to be the horrible racist pig that I am. And I'll just go cry on the shoulders of my buddies Patricio and Jose'

[JK]

I really don't have anything further to add to this discussion that Zac and RHD and others have already expressed.

(By the way, my fiancee? She's partially of Latin descent, so yeah, I'm a racist :rolleyes:)

[RobinHoodDaffy]

Note to self: Do NOT make a joke about JK's fiancee being a dirty, dirty girl. He may kick your ass in September.

[ZBarclay]

I hope you're right in that is not something to worry about, but it's got kind of that zombie apocalypse ring to it.

You can thank your sensationlist media for that.
The media doesn't report news anymore. It provides news-entertainment. Fear = ratings.

[Threadkiller]

Here's something scary. Statistical models show that in the U.S. alone, 800 people will die of the flu in just the next seven days.

Of course, that's the old fashioned boring kind of flu. This swine flu thing probably won't break into double digits.

Here's the story. (http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/28/regular.flu/index.html)

[RobinHoodDaffy]

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n70/scottypotty18/1-1.jpg

You have seven days.

[JK]

You can thank your sensationlist media for that.
The media doesn't report news anymore. It provides news-entertainment. Fear = ratings.


If it bleeds, it leads.

Except with the swine flu there's not much in the way of bleeding. Or actual dying. Last report was... seven world wide? Out of 5 or 6 billion? Yeah, it sucks, but looking at the big picture, you have a better chance of dying from a falling coconut. Really.

[Lotism]

It's ridiculous how this flu is on the front page of every paper for over a week now.

[ZBarclay]

...you have a better chance of dying from a falling coconut. Really.
Or as Weller has just pointed out...by spontaneous combustion.

[JK]

Or as Weller has just pointed out...by spontaneous combustion.

Maybe that's why they're using FLIR cameras at the airports and border check points... the real threat is from human torches and the swine flu is a diversion...

[Sheriff]

(By the way, my fiancee? She's partially of Latin descent, so yeah, I'm a racist :rolleyes:)


RACIST! Proof! JK will try to screw minorities any way he can!!!! ;)



Eh, Mexico is dirty, been there. Relating the hygiene of a nation to the outbreak of flu? Borderline doesn't seem to sit right with me. I mean, if the regular flu kills how many more than this swine flu, what does that have to do with it. Then again, I do watch what I eat and drink when in Mexico (and I am very open to my eating habits when traveling). Ok, I'll stop senselessly rambling.

All that aside, I have been reading about some people's views that it is just another reason to complete the Mexican/American boarder wall and shut the Mexican's out. I mean, it's one thing that they come and take the jobs that nobody want's but now they are trying to make us sick too?!?! </sarcasm>

[JK]

There's a reason we used to have places like Ellis Island. And there's a reason for border check points. The swine flu is a good example of that reason. Not to mention the explosion of bed bugs, measles, and a number of other diseases and critters we had at one time erradicated from this country...

[Sheriff]

Not to mention the explosion of bed bugs, measles, and a number of other diseases and critters we had at one time erradicated from this country...

I know, Feckin Irish!!! :D

[RobinHoodDaffy]

I know, Feckin Irish!!! :D

I'll have you know, my grandparents came through Ellis Island. They had papers and got citizenship. You take your hate speech elsewhere.:D

[Sheriff]

I'll have you know, my grandparents came through Ellis Island. They had papers and got citizenship. You take your hate speech elsewhere.:D


Shush you!!! You know I am trying to rile up the leprechaun pair.



All kidding aside, 7 or 8 generations ago I have ancestors that migrated during the potato famine (more than a few), so um, ditto? And on the other side I have family that legally came to America from Mexico. I will speech hate anywhere I want!


U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!



*Hmmm, maybe I should stop having a beer and 8 cups of coffee at lunch*

[ZBarclay]

Relating the hygiene of a nation to the outbreak of flu? Borderline doesn't seem to sit right with me. I mean, if the regular flu kills how many more than this swine flu, what does that have to do with it.
It's science.
Where are most of the deaths? Where are most of the deaths with the swine flu. Drawing correlation does not mean causation, but it is a logical place to begin examining truth.
You cannot argue scientific fact. Better hygiene = better health. Broken record, yes. Incorrect fact, no.

[Sheriff]

It's science.
Where are most of the deaths? Where are most of the deaths with the swine flu. Drawing correlation does not mean causation, but it is a logical place to begin examining truth.
You cannot argue scientific fact. Better hygiene = better health. Broken record, yes. Incorrect fact, no.

I'll science you!

FACT, anything I say bookended by fact is fact, FACT

[ZBarclay]

I'll science you!

FACT, anything I say bookended by fact is fact, FACT

I'm taking away your grammar police badge.

;)

[Sheriff]

I'm taking away your grammar police badge.

;)

Oh, you misunderstand, I assaulted the fortress :)

[RobinHoodDaffy]

I'll science you!

FACT, anything I say bookended by fact is fact, FACT

I'm taking away your grammar police badge.

;)

Oh, you misunderstand, I assaulted the fortress :)

Besides for it to really be fact it should be:

Anything I say bookended by fact is fact.

[ozchick]

Well apparently WA pharmacies are sold out of facemasks. Seriously.

[Blast Thickneck]

I guarantee next time I talk to my mom she'll ask me if I have symptoms.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/southeast/slideshows/images/doctorwho_s1e4/hospitalcorridor_after.jpg
run typhoid piggy run!

[By-tor]

They've shut down all high-school athletic events in all of Texas until May 11th. For now. :rolleyes:

[JK]

Oh Good Lord...


More kids get spinal meningitis in Texas schools than will ever contract the damn swine flu...


What the fuck has happened to the world :rolleyes:

[By-tor]

Oh Good Lord...


More kids get spinal meningitis in Texas schools than will ever contract the damn swine flu...


What the fuck has happened to the world :rolleyes:You already know. Fuckin' media, brother. Fuckin' "scare the shit outta 'em, we need ratings" media. :rolleyes:

[ZBarclay]

Oh Good Lord...


More kids get spinal meningitis in Texas schools than will ever contract the damn swine flu...


What the fuck has happened to the world :rolleyes:

And staff infections...and ring worm...hell...even the herp, and that's incurable.

[JK]

There was a strain of mono going around when I was in high school- that shit was WAY worse than the flu. Did they close the damn schools? Fuck no. These ridiculous swine flu reactions are absolutely the results of the 24 hour media. I'm ashamed to even mention I used to work in the news industry. You, these people are not even half as smart as they present themselves on TV. I cold tell you stories, man... these clowns... yrrrrgh :mad:

[phit_demon]

VIVA LA MEXICO!

http://dallasvintageshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/im000254.JPG

lalalalalalalaaaaaaa lalalalalalaaaaaaaaaa lalalalalalaaaaaaaa lalalalalala!
I LOL'd.

If it bleeds, it leads.

Except with the swine flu there's not much in the way of bleeding. Or actual dying. Last report was... seven world wide? Out of 5 or 6 billion? Yeah, it sucks, but looking at the big picture, you have a better chance of dying from a falling coconut. Really.
It reminds me of Kent Brockman's Action News, "President Reagan DIES......his hair"
I know, Feckin Irish!!! :D

Shush you!!! You know I am trying to rile up the leprechaun pair.
That's it Sheriff - you, me...outside now! (http://finlaylovestofight.ytmnd.com/)

[JK]

Oh holy shit... some woman from Cancun came to Georgia and has the swine flu... wall to fucking wall coverage.. people freaking out and wearing surgical masks...

Do they even teach health and science in schools these days?

It's the FLU. :mad:




I'm turning off the radio, the fucking TV, and I'm getting off the internet because I believe idiocy is more contagious than anything you can grow in a fucking petri dish. I'll be back in a week or so. :mad:

[ZBarclay]

I'm turning off the radio, the fucking TV, and I'm getting off the internet because I believe idiocy is more contagious than anything you can grow in a fucking petri dish. I'll be back in a week or so. :mad:

I feel so alone now.

[JK]

I decided to turn on a filter...

[By-tor]

There's been ONE swine flu death in the US. A Mexican child that crossed the Texas border, apparently already infected, and died in a Houston hospital. Tragic, yes. But again, how many people died of the regular flu last year?

I tend to agree with this guy (http://thenewsdispatch.com/main.asp?SectionID=50&SubSectionID=72&ArticleID=22841)

Check the stats on the Avian flu "scare". :rolleyes:

[Sheriff]

I woke up this morning with a scratchy throat.

SWINE FLU AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!


I'm huddled in the fetal position right now, cold sweat, naked with a blanket over me. No 2 ways about it, I'm waiting for death.

Wait, the Nuggets made it to the second round of the playoffs? Nevermind it's the end of the world, been fun gang.

[By-tor]

Wait, the Nuggets made it to the second round of the playoffs? Nevermind it's the end of the world, been fun gang.Cracked me up. :D Dallas vs. Denver should be a good round.

[Cheney]

Never in any time period in my life have I wanted to punch more people in the face *Okay excluding once but that's a different story*. They shut down the neighboring High School because one kid is suspected of being a "containing threat" of swine flu. In every single class all I hear is "Like Oh MY GOD WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE FROM THIS FLU THINGY WE SHOULD HAVE SCHOOL SHUT DOWN OR SUM-THINGS." And yes for some of you older folk youngings my age still talk like this and it's still annoying as hell. I really hate the fact that next to no one looks up something before they spew their words of idiocy about it.

[J_Kat]

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45733000/jpg/_45733702_swine_226pa.jpg

Got this through my door this morning, seems I can't escape it even with the telly off, no money and avoiding talking to anyone I don't care about.

Had a quick browse through it for shits and giggles anyway, and judging by the cover Dr Cox has even got the piggy flu, and he's a make-believe doctor and everything! So what did I learn?

Remember kids,

Catch it, Bin it, Kill it


Oh and get some "flu friends", they're just like regular friends except you can make them run out and get shit for you if you sneeze at'em first :D

[J_Kat]

Okaaaay here goes, you can tell I didn't wanna get any work done today :p anyone who doesn't give a fig about this discussion should ignore this post an move on:



Having a disagreement on the hygiene of a poor country is not anything to sound racist about. Hell, I work with a shit ton of Mexicans and they are all glad to be out and have told me never to go because it is poor, filthy and violent.



I think that's where most people got me wrong, I was never saying "hey look you can't call Mexico dirty" I was saying "you can't pull up a stereotype, true or otherwise without some connection". I was agreeing, that by all accounts Mexico is one dirty shithole.


When something is established as truth, rather than a generalized statement based on a minority of occurrences, it becomes fact. Not a stereotype. Stereotypes are generalizations that may be true. Facts are observations that are proven to be true.

A generalised statement can be true, in the sense that it holds for the majority of cases, it just has to be remembered that it is still a generalisation. The may be true of stereotypes can be established one way or the other based on empirical evidence. In normal language we take generalised statements that apply to the majority of cases to be true, and generalised statements that apply to only a minority of cases to be false. That's the process of generalising/averaging/stereotyping whatever you want to call it. This is a difficulty for genuine racial equality because whilst most reasonable minded people have come to accept that patently false racial stereotypes are damaging and derogative, they fail to see the subtle racism at work with either positive stereotypes, or stereotypes that generally actually hold to be true.


Throw out lowered immune systems due to cancer treatment and immunodeficiency diseases and what else lowers your immune system? Your body's inability to keep up with the barrage of the virus attacking it. The simple practice of good hygiene (not excessive hygiene, as that has its own set of disadvantages in regards to the immune system) gives your immune system a leg up and in some cases is the major barrier between you...and disease.

Good hygiene does not strengthen your immune system at all, it simply removes the risk of some infection. The hardiest buggers are those who get infected by things the most. In some cases it is the major barrier between you and disease, but I was talking about deaths from complications not complications arising themselves. People in the UK/USA can still get pneumonia or something like that from the flu, but you have a tremendously better chance of surviving it with superior medication and healthcare professionals, at that stage, the cleanliness of your hospital or how much you wash your hands has bugger all to do with your survival.

Now you can argue that countries with more complications, are raising their percentage of deaths even if they had the best meds and best doctors but that aint what I was talking about.


It's science.
Where are most of the deaths? Where are most of the deaths with the swine flu. Drawing correlation does not mean causation, but it is a logical place to begin examining truth.
You cannot argue scientific fact. Better hygiene = better health. Broken record, yes. Incorrect fact, no.


Heh if you can't argue scientific fact that puts a lot of scientists out of a job. Half of what science is is arguing against and proving otherwise things we previously took to be 'fact'.

My whole original point was not that you can't say such and such about mexicans or mexico, but that the correlation was false, unsupported and thereby could be construed as a conclusion drawn purely from racist sentiment.

Swine flu broke out presumably in the same way bird flu did, with people living in close quarters with animals. Although that often goes along with poor hygiene its not a necessary or even sufficient condition for poor hygiene, animals can be surprisingly clean and so can people living close to them. And why has it spread most effectively across Mexico? Perhaps hygiene is a factor, but the much more establishable and non-generalised facts about mexico is theres a crap load of people living in very close quarters, with a feckless government not advising its people or reaching the infected in time. Just look at the over-reaction the UK and USA have had. We're doing better and will continue to do better not cos we wash our freakin hands every day but because we're rich, organised hypochondriacs with governments that respond to (or create themselves?) demands.

The Mexican government can't even decide how many have died for christs sake, ("I dunno ese, mebbe 19 mebbe 101, I lost count, I'm jus so sleepy" Theeeres ya good old-fashioned racism :cool:)

and its factors such as that, which are not generalisations, that hold considerably more strength as correlations than anything you can say about hygiene standards.

[Jason Shiffy]

Good thing i live in Europe and we don't have mexicans or other fairytale figures!

[ZBarclay]

I think that's where most people got me wrong, I was never saying "hey look you can't call Mexico dirty" I was saying "you can't pull up a stereotype, true or otherwise without some connection". I was agreeing, that by all accounts Mexico is one dirty shithole.
I think that was a case where what you "said" and what you "meant" being two completely different things.


A generalised statement can be true, in the sense that it holds for the majority of cases, it just has to be remembered that it is still a generalisation. The may be true of stereotypes can be established one way or the other based on empirical evidence. In normal language we take generalised statements that apply to the majority of cases to be true, and generalised statements that apply to only a minority of cases to be false. That's the process of generalising/averaging/stereotyping whatever you want to call it. This is a difficulty for genuine racial equality because whilst most reasonable minded people have come to accept that patently false racial stereotypes are damaging and derogative, they fail to see the subtle racism at work with either positive stereotypes, or stereotypes that generally actually hold to be true.
Any statement is technically a generalization. There are outliers in any variable set. Arguing the merit of the word "generalization" itself is a final desperate throw in the death struggle of an argument.

Good hygiene does not strengthen your immune system at all, it simply removes the risk of some infection.
That is a factually incorrect statement. Completely. I reitterate: If your immune system is forced to battle the onslaught of every critter trying its damnedest to get in, eventually it will tire and be unable to protect itself. Good hygiene eliminates threats while they are ON your body, before they get IN your body.

Now you can argue that countries with more complications, are raising their percentage of deaths even if they had the best meds and best doctors but that aint what I was talking about.
It may not be what YOU were talking about...but it kind of gives weight to everyone else's argument...so I could see why you wouldn't want it to factor in to the debate.

Heh if you can't argue scientific fact that puts a lot of scientists out of a job. Half of what science is is arguing against and proving otherwise things we previously took to be 'fact'.
We're not arguing flat earth vs globular earth here. We're arguing whether or not soap kills things that can make you sick. And again...yes...it does.

My whole original point was not that you can't say such and such about mexicans or mexico, but that the correlation was false, unsupported and thereby could be construed as a conclusion drawn purely from racist sentiment.
It is neither. Just because you don't believe it, don't make it untrue.

Swine flu broke out presumably in the same way bird flu did, with people living in close quarters with animals. Although that often goes along with poor hygiene its not a necessary or even sufficient condition for poor hygiene, animals can be surprisingly clean and so can people living close to them. And why has it spread most effectively across Mexico? Perhaps hygiene is a factor, but the much more establishable and non-generalised facts about mexico is theres a crap load of people living in very close quarters, with a feckless government not advising its people or reaching the infected in time. Just look at the over-reaction the UK and USA have had. We're doing better and will continue to do better not cos we wash our freakin hands every day but because we're rich, organised hypochondriacs with governments that respond to (or create themselves?) demands.
Riddle me this. If the close contact to livestock is your main corollary, then why is H1N1 not running RAMPANT in Iowa...the state that produces the majority of pork in the United States? So far the only confirmed case was a woman that had traveled to Mexico. And why is the common advice from all agencies to practice good hygiene to prevent the spread of the disease? You're continuing to argue beliefs...not facts. It's becoming a circular debate now...and thus...unproductive.

[By-tor]

It's becoming a circular debate now...and thus...unproductive.And...
http://www.craigharper.com.au/uploaded_images/yawning.jpg

[ZBarclay]

And...
http://www.craigharper.com.au/uploaded_images/yawning.jpg

That's what I said...

[By-tor]

That's what I said...Yeah, but I did it with a pic because I'm not nearly as loquacious as you bastards. :D

[ZBarclay]

Yeah, but I did it with a pic because I'm not nearly as loquacious as you bastards. :D

Good word!

[By-tor]

Good word!Yeah, I had it on the tip of my toungue(that's what she said), but couldn't remember it. So, I googled a synonym for long-winded. ;)

[Sheriff]

loquacious

Ohhh, that sounds yummy, I like the red vine variety. :)


Uh, so I guess the media is freaking the fuck out about the swine flu because one time it reared it's ugly head it was pretty bad, back then they just called it the Spanish flu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu) (feckin racist bastards, though check out why it got that name). I guess now they are worried that it could somehow mutate with the HIV virus and that would be pretty damn hard to battle with our current medical toolbag (or that's what I gather (http://www.upi.com/news/issueoftheday/2009/05/04/Swine-flu-HIV-could-devastate-human-race/UPI-43071241461493/)). Basically they are already preparing for the second wave of the diesese, we don't have the same driving factors to make the virus as bad but it seems that it could come back in a much worse fashion.

Interesting, didn't even know that happened and killed a lot of people, sorry if your already aware that this happened. Kinda scary that they are messing around with the virus still, makes you wonder if someone got a little sloppy and released it by accident, a la 'Outbreak' style.

Wait a second, how do you make one of those aluminum hat thingys? ;)

[Aaron]

http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/oo355/mexicrat/MexicanSunscreen.jpg

[JK]

At last count, twenty-six people have died from swine flu- ALL from Mexico. Hmmm... makes you wonder... :rolleyes:

During flu season, when the regular ol' seasonal flu bug is going around, 250 people die from complications related to seasonal flu EACH DAY. On average, some 360,000 people a year. Why isn't everyone going ape shit over regular flu which is MORE DEADLY?

This swine flu is a non-issue.

(And J_Kat has no clue what he's talking about- he's just throwing semantics out there and hoping something sticks.)

[Aaron]

The Mexicans laugh at you

http://patdollard.com/wp-content/uploads/mexicans.jpg
AAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Sheriff]

This swine flu is a non-issue.


1 - Oh, uh, yeah, I guess I'm rationalizing the overexposure that it's getting in the media. Bad, Sheriff, bad, I agree, they are sensationalizing.

2 - I wasn't aware of the 1918 pandemic and thought I would share.

[JK]

1 - Oh, uh, yeah, I guess I'm rationalizing the overexposure that it's getting in the media. Bad, Sheriff, bad, I agree, they are sensationalizing.

2 - I wasn't aware of the 1918 pandemic and thought I would share.

You posted while I was replying to previous posts.

[RobinHoodDaffy]

Happy Cinco de Mayo everyone!:D

[JK]

I like mayo...

[RobinHoodDaffy]

I don't like eggs.

[phit_demon]

...loquacious...

Isn't that Zee's avatar: Loquacious of Borg?

[Aaron]

Ha! It was a stretch, but you have to appreciate a good Star Trek joke

[RobinHoodDaffy]

Ha! It was a stretch, but you have to appreciate a good Star Trek joke

Yes you do, and when one appears, I will enjoy it.:D

[JK]

Yes you do, and when one appears, I will enjoy it.:D

Zing!

[Aaron]

Oh no he di-int!

[phit_demon]

Yes you do, and when one appears, I will enjoy it.:D

Zing!

I slave over a hot gag all day and this is the thanks I get? I don't know why I bother!

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3/phitdemon/housewife-773019.jpg

That's it - no dessert for anyone but Aaron.

[donkey]

I slave over a hot gag all day and this is the thanks I get?


I'll give you somethign to gag over..

oh god i'm tired.

[Aaron]

That's it - no dessert for anyone but Aaron.

Woohoo!

http://img.timeinc.net/recipes/i/recipes/sl/05/09/lemon-dessert-sl-1099581-l.jpg
NYOM NYOM NYOM

[RobinHoodDaffy]

Enjoy that dessert Aaron.














suck up.

[Aaron]

SUCK MY... up... !

[Sheriff]

I slave over a hot gag all day and this is the thanks I get? I don't know why I bother!

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3/phitdemon/housewife-773019.jpg



"You come home, you hit the bottle, you hit me. When was the last time we made love..."

[JK]

Hey, nothing says "I love you" like the back of the hand... ;)

[RobinHoodDaffy]

Hey, nothing says "I love you" like the spit in the hand... ;)

You romantic.

[JK]

You romantic.

You want some love too? :eek: ;)

[RobinHoodDaffy]

You want some love too? :eek: ;)

With the change I made to your quote in my last post, I don't know how to answer. :eek:

[JK]

With the change I made to your quote in my last post, I don't know how to answer. :eek:

That's why I asked if you wanted some... :p

[RobinHoodDaffy]

That's why I asked if you wanted some... :p

O.k. but it might taint the picnic.

[JK]

Easy with the taint there, bub... :eek:

[Cuclean]

You gotta love the love in this place (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etg9ZzQZL3w)

[JK]

You gotta love the love in this place (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etg9ZzQZL3w)

Okay, the chicks are hot, but those guys... they look like they enjoyed Twilight for the wrong reasons (as if there are any right reasons...)

[dtcb]

Here's some of my love! I'm going slap happy! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIGyNbghKW4) Yeah!

Appreciate that little window on China dtcb, I think its important to know. That link seems to lead to a dubious "explosions linked with astrology" page but I've no reason not to believe what you say.


Unfortunately I hate being right. It's why I drink alot.

Here's an official article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/1206665.stm)not nearly as bizarre as astrology. And like cockroaches, for every one you see; there are 10 behind the wall. in this case literally "The Great Wall." China, unlike the US, does not like to air out its dirty laundry. They throw journalists and 'dissenters' in jail every day (course, not before they beat the shit out of them (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/5199325/Chinese-police-training-manual-offers-tips-on-the-best-way-to-beat-up-offenders.html)). It is very rare that stories like this get out. They've done much better at wrenching down the internet since this came out.

Swine flu, bird flu, whatever; even the friggin black plague (http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/full/122/2/151)has made a comeback in third world places. And I've been to too many and seen why all the great diseases make a comeback. Indonesia, Mexico, South Africa, Philippines, India, Pakistan. I've been to places where toilet paper is a luxury. there are still places in this world were people wipe their ass with their left hand. Not because they want to, because they have no choice (which is what JK was stating). I've seen human shit on the ground with featherless diseased chickens pecking at it while kids play in garbage heaps. And I've seen human shit used as fertilizer for crops. I've been to towns with open sewers, no electricity and no running water except a river (that probably has a few towns upstream using it as a sewer) and all next to a tanning factory and a plastics manufacturer.

And the only thing that suprises me is that more of these diseases are not spreading "to the real world" from the back alleys of 'the invisible people.' After all, they are probably mopping the floor of some starbucks in the city before treking home to their shack-o-squaller.

Oh, and I've seen lepers. Leprosy is still around. hoofucking-ray!


............... I think I need a drink.

[ZBarclay]

In no particular order...
Isn't that Zee's avatar: Loquacious of Borg?
Well played!

O.k. but it might taint the picnic.

Easy with the taint there, bub... :eek:

SUCK MY... up... !

I slave over a hot gag all day and this is the thanks I get? I don't know why I bother!

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3/phitdemon/housewife-773019.jpg

That's it - no dessert for anyone but Aaron.

I'll give you somethign to gag over..

oh god i'm tired.
You could cut the homoerotica in here with a VHS copy of Stand By Me! ;)

[Antonio_Bay]

Its finally happened. (http://bouncewith.me.uk/europe/8027043.htm) Time to prepare.

[Lotism]

Its finally happened. (http://bouncewith.me.uk/europe/8027043.htm) Time to prepare.

Wow.
http://pro.corbis.com/images/42-17599136.jpg?size=572&uid={80E45C20-BCB0-4DB4-83D0-ABB577C84F57}

[Cuclean]

Its finally happened. (http://bouncewith.me.uk/europe/8027043.htm) Time to prepare.

Holy fook!

That's the best photoshopping you've done. ;)

[puggso_32]

Its finally happened. (http://bouncewith.me.uk/europe/8027043.htm) Time to prepare.

If anyone falls for that then our species is done for!

[Sheriff]

You could cut the homoerotica in here with a VHS copy of Stand By Me! ;)


You will die for that comment. A slow, tortured and painfull death. No one talks bad about Stand by Me!

[ZBarclay]

You will die for that comment. A slow, tortured and painfull death. No one talks bad about Stand by Me!

Actually lots o'people do...because it's crap. :D

[Sheriff]

*Adds to list*

So I see you have been fully assimilated.

[By-tor]

Actually lots o'people do...because it's crap. :DJust because you say it, don't make it true. :p

[dtcb]

You could cut the homoerotica in here with a VHS copy of Stand By Me! ;)

You will die for that comment. A slow, tortured and painfull death. No one talks bad about Stand by Me!

Actually lots o'people do...because it's crap. :D

Just because you say it, don't make it true. :p


Stand By Me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMOw0Ym496k) was hobbit gay. It was "BrokeBackByMe."

Watch the movie again....if you can bare to. And while you are watching, imagine a girl being put in Gordie's place. Picture all the Chris-Gordie-scenes with a girl in Gordie's place and you will see the romance.

The only thing missing is Chris telling Gordie: "I wish I knew how to quit you!"

[ozchick]

Insert shock face here. :eek:

You know everytime you say that Stand By Me sucked, a puppy dies. Do you guys hate puppies?

[dtcb]

I love puppies!

http://wagny.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/korea-dog-meat.jpg

[Cheney]

Bear Nooooooooooooo!

[dtcb]

Bear Nooooooooooooo!

Baxter Nooooooo! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3UX5r_yYFI&feature=related)

[JK]

"Hey pop, have you seen Scamp anywhere?"

http://boards.adultswim.com/adultswim/i/icons/Venture_Brothers/vb_scamp.gif

[Aaron]

And while you are watching, imagine a girl being put in Gordie's place. Picture all the Chris-Gordie-scenes with a girl in Gordie's place and you will see the romance.

If you want to imagine a little boy is a girl, go right ahead.

The knock on your door might be the feds

[JK]

Hug the root...

[Sheriff]

Stand By Me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMOw0Ym496k) was hobbit gay. It was "BrokeBackByMe."

Watch the movie again....if you can bare to. And while you are watching, imagine a girl being put in Gordie's place. Picture all the Chris-Gordie-scenes with a girl in Gordie's place and you will see the romance.

The only thing missing is Chris telling Gordie: "I wish I knew how to quit you!"


*Adds to list*

Wow, I'm going to have some traveling to do.

*Thinks of more diabolical ways for people to die*

Leaches, yes, I will need leaches for this one...

[puggso_32]

http://www.inverclydenow.com/news-detail4.asp?ID=2869

Yay my home town!

And...I know the person in question!

[Alexsad]

Someone at my school has the virus.

My doctor told me I still may carry the virus even though I am not showing any symptoms.

But you guys have nothing to worry, the virus does not spread via thread.

[ZBarclay]

Someone at my school has the virus.

My doctor told me I still may carry the virus even though I am not showing any symptoms.

But you guys have nothing to worry, the virus does not spread via thread.

And the CDC finally came out with the information that I've been pushing for a couple weeks now...it's no more dangerous than the common flu. So...it's a non-issue. Thread. Dead.

[Cuclean]

Breaking News: Kermit the frog has died from the swine flu. His last words were: "That fucking bitch told me she was clean"

[dtcb]

If you want to imagine a little boy is a girl, go right ahead.

The knock on your door might be the feds

Who needs to imagine?
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee242/dtcb1/Aarondragoo.jpg



You just had to go there didn't you. Now I'm the one who's stuck saying: "I wish I knew how to quit you!"

[dtcb]

*Adds to list*

Wow, I'm going to have some traveling to do.

*Thinks of more diabolical ways for people to die*

Leaches, yes, I will need leaches for this one...


I recommend you hurry up. I'm doing a damn good job of working on my own demise.

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee242/dtcb1/PB070093.jpg

[Aaron]

Who needs to image?
You just had to go there didn't you. Now I'm the one who's stuck saying: "I wish I knew how to quit you!"

I hate you dtcb.
With all my heart.

[Sheriff]

Breaking News: Kermit the frog has died from the swine flu. His last words were: "That fucking bitch told me she was clean"

:D



So I spoke with a friend who works for the local school district as a nurse. The CDC is not so much worried about this strain that is going around as they are about the next strain (when this strain mutates) which should be around in the August timeframe (school back in). Apparently the current strain affects young healthy immune systems more efficiently and the people who carry the disease can infect other people for a lot longer (like 10 days instead of 2-3). So they are trying to limit the ways this strain can spread and further mutate.

I told her that the way the current news is reporting doesn't mention most of this information and by the time the next strain comes out people are going to be so sick of hearing about the 'new flu' that they will likely ignore any important information. Boy who cried wolf and all.

[dtcb]

I hate you dtcb.
With all my heart.

This seems to be the common passion I instill in relationships. A kind of "heartfelt hatred."

Still, I mark this as "love/hate" relationship. At least right up until I sent the next care package. ;) (actually, i promise the next care package will be less vile, I've found some good things to send)

[Thinman]

LOCATION: A Mexican Zoo
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3341/3489167793_2061215521.jpg

[ZBarclay]

LOCATION: A Mexican Zoo
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3341/3489167793_2061215521.jpg

Ya. That's only about the 6th time that's been posted on these boards.

[dtcb]

Pigs just taste delicious. She's jumping the gun yes. But, hey nobody ever watches Charlotte's Web and doesn't at least think, "yeah time to bacon up. Wilbur."

[joep144]

Ya. That's only about the 6th time that's been posted on these boards.

I like my theory better.......at least it's much sicker.

[JK]

Oh yeah, that reminds me...

They're building a statue to commemorate Patient Zero. (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.7bd5d2d0df7fb567cbad3ffbc7f8da6 a.411&show_article=1)

I want. To. Vomit.

[joep144]

What the hell is wrong with people? :mad: I don't have the words to convey my disgust.

[neon vomit]

What the hell is wrong with people? :mad: I don't have the words to convey my disgust.

What he said.

[JK]

So basically, they're going to build a statue of the kid who apparently started the swine flu epidemic, taking a piss. On the world...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/27/51860752_743551e2eb.jpg

How FUCKED UP is the world now, where a kid who started this ridiculous swine flu BS is immortalized in bronze? To hell with real achievement, let's immortalize the tricycle motor that spread a virus...

[Firestone2489]

So basically, they're going to build a statue of the kid who apparently started the swine flu epidemic, taking a piss. On the world...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/27/51860752_743551e2eb.jpg

How FUCKED UP is the world now, where a kid who started this ridiculous swine flu BS is immortalized in bronze? To hell with real achievement, let's immortalize the tricycle motor that spread a virus...

That is probably the best thing I've heard to describe a child.