Fresh Talent

[meandmyshadow]

I would like to have seen some lesser known talent in JSBSB. The Star Wars influence is undeniable here, so I think a decent mix of vets and newbies would have been nice. Now with Jersey Girl, the pattern is developing again. The same small group of players recycled in yet another KS installment. Now Liv Tyler is being absorbed into the machine (an actress who isn't typecast...yet).
Who's next, Kevin? Seasoned actors like Ben and Matt only appear tragically hip and ironic in their roles, and become Afleckted by their own Damons. Let it go. They're not that good.

[code6enterprises]

How can you say that Affleck isn't good. He is one of the best actors out there right now. You can't deny that the boy has talent.

[meandmyshadow]

My point exactly. There are barely any good actors out there right now. Ben is not a good actor, he's just the best we can come up with to please the masses. He's a cash register, and money doesn't buy class.

[Monkeyforahead]

Kevin Smith makes his movies to cast his friends in, not for fresh talent. He doesn't give a s*** about fresh talent, he gives a s*** about making a good movie with his buddies. He didn't cast Ben Affleck because he's "the best we can come up with to please the masses", he casted Affleck for Jersey Girl because they're good friends and they wanted to make another movie together again, not a dick and fart joke movie but another one much like Chasing Amy. Jersey Girl was Affleck's IDEA, did you know that? He brought it up to Smith saying they should do another movie much like Chasing Amy again, so Smith worked on a new script, and so on they went and made Jersey Girl. About J&SBSB, Smith didn't want fresh talent in that either. He wanted a dick and fart joke movie with an all-star cast and full of cameos, as well as his friends from his prior films. And I don't think it would have been as good or as funny without.

When you get fresh talent you get s***. When Smith first approached the studio for Chasing Amy they told him they wanted him to cast Drew Barrymore and David Shwimmer. My god......

Fresh talent is boring, and not Kevin Smith's style, deifinitly not what his films are made for. You want fresh talent, rent a nice teenage chick flick like She's All That.

You sir, are thinking FAR too much into this, and it's funny you have nothing better to do than grill a successful actor like Affleck on a internet chat board. While he's out making buttloads of money while sucking face with Jennifer Lopez and posing for the cover of magazines and tabloids all over the country, you're sitting your idiot ass in front of a computer screen talking bulls*** about him.

Shut up man, and get a life.

[meandmyshadow]

That's quite a lot of typing. Who exactly has nothing better to do? The sad reality is that when you harvest talent within your own films, you develop a certain level of theatrical inbreeding, where the performances become stale and the script is written around actors who will only end up telling the same tired story. That being said, Clerks is one of the best movies I have ever seen. I know Kevin is capable of using unknown actors and film students, and he certainly hasn't stopped writing. My opinion is this, Kevin: Regain the fresh approach to film making that won you the respect of many, many people and made you a wealthy person, or hop out of the director's chair and start writing for the now struggling SNL. You're from Jersey, for chr*st sake! Where's your freakin' b*lls, man?!

[Monkeyforahead]

Most of what you said above made no sense.

But I did see you say that Clerks is one of the best movies you've ever seen, yet it's probably the least liked film by Kevin Smith of all, by everyone, even his biggest fans. I myself found it damn boring. It had it's moments, but it dragged on and was poorly acted. Of course it did have a budget of $28,000, and nobody in it was really an "actor" per say, just Kevin's friends, plus it was all black and white which got sort of annoying. All in all Clerks wasn't all that good, only a doorway into Kevin Smith's career into better things. Only reason I'd seen it was because I'd seen all of Kevin's other movies and thought, hell, why not see Clerks too! Yet the ones with the most cameos and popular talents, Dogma and Strike Back, are my favourites, and most other peoples favourites at that. Specifically Dogma, one of my favourite movies to date.

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Regain the fresh approach to film making that won you the respect of many, many people and made you a wealthy person

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He has nothing to regain, he gets more and more popular and well known with every film he makes, he made more fans with Dogma than ever, and J&amp;SBSB was a big hit and extremely anticipated by many many fans. I don't know where you're getting this s***, but Kevin Smith is fine where he is doing what he's doing. It would be one thing if his last couple movies tanked, but they didn't, they were huge hits, and he has tons of fans wanting MORE of it.

You're opinion is moot, now be quiet.

[meandmyshadow]

Remember the movie Orgasmo ? I like Trey and Matt a lot, and have respect for their point of view, but I thought the movie was a dissapointment. I feel the same way about JSBSB. That movie was nothing more than a 2 hr. commercial, and that's why the 16-34 demographic bought it.
That's why it was a success. I'm not denying the profitability of selling out, but it shouldn't be assumed that everyone is a sheep to be sheared for $8.50 a pop. Hail Mooby!!! bah...bah...bah...

[Monkeyforahead]

You're weird......

[meandmyshadow]

Thanks. Actually, I don't do this out of hate, I just enjoy expressing my opinion. Truce?