Comics... It's not a dirty word.

[JasterIsFett]

He can't pull in an audience by himself. The most any movie has done with him as the strong lead is around 150M and that movie (Eagle Eye) was marketed more as a story-driven rather than a character-driven movie. It would be smarter for the studios to go with a less known, but a much better actor to carry what is planned as a trilogy.

[ZBarclay]

He can't pull in an audience by himself. The most any movie has done with him as the strong lead is around 150M and that movie (Eagle Eye) was marketed more as a story-driven rather than a character-driven movie. It would be smarter for the studios to go with a less known, but a much better actor to carry what is planned as a trilogy.

Transformers grossed $319,246,193 domestic. The only movie that I can think of offhand that had anyone starring by themself and pulled crazy numbers is Castaway ($233632142). So no one really pulls an audience "by themself".

[JasterIsFett]

Transformers grossed $319,246,193 domestic. The only movie that I can think of offhand that had anyone starring by themself and pulled crazy numbers is Castaway ($233632142). So no one really pulls an audience "by themself".

I can see Benjamin Button made a majority of its 126M because it was Brad Pitt. Its not to do with him "by himself" its his metaphorical star power bringing people in to see the movie. People will see a movie because it has Will Smith or Bruce Willis. They will not see a movie because it has Shia Lebeouf.

Transformers pulled in that much because its Transformers, not due to any of the actors in it. Tyrese or Josh Duhamel were probably the biggest names at the time in the movie and I doubt many people went just to see them.

[Threadkiller]

I can see Benjamin Button made a majority of its 126M because it was Brad Pitt. Its not to do with him "by himself" its his metaphorical star power bringing people in to see the movie. People will see a movie because it has Will Smith or Bruce Willis. They will not see a movie because it has Shia Lebeouf.

Transformers pulled in that much because its Transformers, not due to any of the actors in it. Tyrese or Josh Duhamel were probably the biggest names at the time in the movie and I doubt many people went just to see them.

You're just making this stuff up.

[ZBarclay]

I can see Benjamin Button made a majority of its 126M because it was Brad Pitt. Its not to do with him "by himself" its his metaphorical star power bringing people in to see the movie. People will see a movie because it has Will Smith or Bruce Willis. They will not see a movie because it has Shia Lebeouf.

Transformers pulled in that much because its Transformers, not due to any of the actors in it. Tyrese or Josh Duhamel were probably the biggest names at the time in the movie and I doubt many people went just to see them.

This is what I like to call a "perspective" argument. Depending on your perspective, you can pretty much make a case for any part of the debate. The argument could be made that Benjamin Button would have done whatever money it did regardless of whether it was Pitt, Damon, Clooney, Bale, or any cadre of male leads. He spends a great deal of the movie in make-up.
I think a Y the Last Man movie will not draw any more or any less based on the prospect of LeBeof starring. And he doesn't need to be able to draw. It's a niche movie. With very few exceptions (Watchmen being one, which was helped emensely by being directed by the same dude who directed 300), niche movies, just don't do as well.
And using the words Tyrese and Josh Duhamel in the same sentence as "biggest names" makes my skin crawl.

[Shäne]

Since we're talking about casting comic book movies. Who do you guys think would be good for the Preacher movie? I seriously can't think of anybody. :rolleyes:

[JasterIsFett]

You're just making this stuff up.

What stuff? I make up a lot of stuff, but I don't think this is it...

I think a Y the Last Man movie will not draw any more or any less based on the prospect of LeBeof starring. And he doesn't need to be able to draw. It's a niche movie. With very few exceptions (Watchmen being one, which was helped emensely by being directed by the same dude who directed 300), niche movies, just don't do as well.

Sadly, thats true. But I can't imagine the movie being nearly as...good with him in it. Its not worth the extra money (to the fans that I have spoken to at least) to cast the wrong actor.

And using the words Tyrese and Josh Duhamel in the same sentence as "biggest names" makes my skin crawl.

Yeah, well, as bad as it is, its true. Shia hadn't done anything but side characters except for Disturbia which came out a whole 3 months before Transformers. Duhamel had at least a starring role in Las Vegas and Tyrese had been in about 4 big budget movies as a lead or near-lead in recent years. Megan Fox was relatively unknown and nobody even knew that Jon Voigt was in the movie.

Since we're talking about casting comic book movies. Who do you guys think would be good for the Preacher movie? I seriously can't think of anybody. :rolleyes:

Not sure, but Josh Brolin looks like a good pick for the Jonah Hex movie.

[Threadkiller]

Since we're talking about casting comic book movies. Who do you guys think would be good for the Preacher movie? I seriously can't think of anybody. :rolleyes:

I kind of hate myself for saying this but the first name that popped into my head was Luke Wilson. I think I really wanted to say some kind of badass action guy. The other name that popped in was Clive Owen.

http://upload.moldova.org/movie/actors/l/luke_wilson/thumbnails/tn2_luke_wilson_3.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Yh7C99Uri5s/SZWPHCgrBwI/AAAAAAAABmo/mqsCQM_kUYo/s400/clive-owen2.jpg

[JasterIsFett]

I can see Luke Wilson in the role, I'd like to see him with that kind of personality. He's probably not the best for it though.

[Threadkiller]

I can see Luke Wilson in the role, I'd like to see him with that kind of personality. He's probably not the best for it though.He's done dramatic stuff before. Weird thing is, I've never thought he was much of an actor, even in Wes Anderson's movies. I think I like him for the role because he seems to play characters that don't have a strong personality (or any personality) and I kind of feel that way about Preacher. It's really the characters around him that make the story so good.

If you turn the character of Preacher into a really strong, leading-man, action guy (think, Bruce Willis in Die Hard) I think it would change the dynamic. Better if he remains kind of a stable backdrop against which all the crazy characters and stories revolve.

[JasterIsFett]

He's done dramatic stuff before. Weird thing is, I've never thought he was much of an actor, even in Wes Anderson's movies. I think I like him for the role because he seems to play characters that don't have a strong personality (or any personality) and I kind of feel that way about Preacher. It's really the characters around him that make the story so good.

If you turn the character of Preacher into a really strong, leading-man, action guy (think, Bruce Willis in Die Hard) I think it would change the dynamic. Better if he remains kind of a stable backdrop against which all the crazy characters and stories revolve.

Almost all of his roles are pretty much the exact same character. Playing Jesse would kinda put him out of his comfort zone. He would actually have to, y'know...act. He might do a good job. I thought he was good in his small part in 3:10 to Yuma.

[Threadkiller]

Almost all of his roles are pretty much the exact same character. Yeah, that's exactly why I thought he'd work for Jesse. I don't think of Preacher as a particularly complex character. He's quiet and kind of vanilla despite his crazy history.

I thought he was good in his small part in 3:10 to Yuma.I should check that out.

[ZBarclay]

Yeah, well, as bad as it is, its true. Shia hadn't done anything but side characters except for Disturbia which came out a whole 3 months before Transformers. Duhamel had at least a starring role in Las Vegas and Tyrese had been in about 4 big budget movies as a lead or near-lead in recent years. Megan Fox was relatively unknown and nobody even knew that Jon Voigt was in the movie.


If you want to call Josh Duhamel's role in LasVegas (an ensemble series) a "starring role", then you might as well concede due to LeBeof's rock star performance in Even Stevens. (If you can't pick up the sarcasm intended to clarify my point...this is the spot where I'm pointing it out.)

[JasterIsFett]

If you want to call Josh Duhamel's role in LasVegas (an ensemble series) a "starring role", then you might as well concede due to LeBeof's rock star performance in Even Stevens. (If you can't pick up the sarcasm intended to clarify my point...this is the spot where I'm pointing it out.)

The story revolves around him nearly as much as Scrubs does around Zach Braff. There are other characters, but the show started with his being the main storyline.

[ZBarclay]

The story revolves around him nearly as much as Scrubs does around Zach Braff. There are other characters, but the show started with his being the main storyline.

I don't know if I agree with any of that statement.

[phit_demon]

...which was helped emensely...

Huh?

[ZBarclay]

Huh?
Sorry. No spell check at work.

[Erasmus Cunk]

I've done quite a lot of comic reading recently:

Superman Red Son - Quite enjoyed this. Don't really have much to say about it other than it's good. Apart from the twist at the end, which was horrible.

Batman Hush - Rubbish. I did like the way that loads of baddies made an appearance, but the 'big reveal' at the end was so obviously signposted that there couldn't have been anyone who didn't see it coming. And I'm not a fan of Jim Lee's art.

Grant Morrison's run on Batman - Ugh. I don't like Damian and I don't care who the Black Glove is. Which renders Morrison's run pointless. Although I have to say I loved Zur En Arrh Batman. I would definitely buy a series featuring an insane, raggedy, smelly Batman going around talking to gargoyles and getting advice from Bat-Mite.

Next up, Hellboy.

[RobinHoodDaffy]

Since we're talking about casting comic book movies. Who do you guys think would be good for the Preacher movie? I seriously can't think of anybody. :rolleyes:

Well you know Hollywood will try to save money on it wherever they can, so in that vein, I predict they will get rid of Cassidy combine it with the main character and it will be played by this man:


http://celebrity-pics.movieeye.com/celebrity_pictures/Dylan_Moran_612484.jpg


...and I will go see it because he is a god.

[phit_demon]

...he is a god.

So very true.

[neon vomit]

So he would be arseface.
http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2006/08/billbaileyL160806_243x265.jpg

[BOP TILL U DROP]

I wish I knew what y'all were talking about.

[phit_demon]

I wish I knew what y'all were talking about.
Well this guy...

http://celebrity-pics.movieeye.com/celebrity_pictures/Dylan_Moran_612484.jpg

...is Dylan Moran. He's an Irish comedian, and I think he's one of the funniest people around.
He's in a show called Black Books (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3tFEoWNv50) with this guy...

http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2006/08/billbaileyL160806_243x265.jpg

...who's name is Bill Bailey. He an English comedian and also very funny.



I hope that helped.

[RobinHoodDaffy]

First, Bop, do your self a favor and watch Black Books. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTvfG3HSDYA) I want to be Bernard Black if I grow up.

Second, If Dylan is Cassidy/Jesse and Bill is Arseface, then there is only one possibility for Tulip:

http://verdouxtv.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/tamsin-grieg-as-fran-katzenjammer.jpg


Now we have a movie that will be better than the source material. Guaranteed.

[BOP TILL U DROP]

Thanks, sweeties!

[neon vomit]

You have to go to another great show to get the Saint of Killers.
http://www.channel4.com/video/images/mb/Channel4/video/clip%20images/Father_Ted/Father_Ted_002_003_002_001.jpg

[Erasmus Cunk]

Herr Starr:

http://www.alicia-logic.com/capsimgs/RichardOBrien.jpg

[mitch_the_conquistador]

Not that I'm really complaining, considering the banter, but isn't there loads of movie threads? Why infiltrate the comics thread with 2 pages of movie talk? There is only one for comics and because of the tenuous link to source material y'all have began talking exclusively about movies. Hethans!!

I just finished Batman Death and the Maidens. I'm a Greg Rucka fan and this book kinda left me a little flat. Dunno why! Maybe it's Ra's Al Ghul. Maybe it was that I felt while Batman's convictions were well challenged, his reasoning for maintaining them felt a little rushed and underplanned. Or maybe it just wasn't ma cup of ale. Who knows? Well written for the most part tho, and only a small stain on the record of Mr. Rucka. Klaus Jansen's art was beautiful/unsettling, and made the book that bit more unputdownable.
http://www.dccomics.com/media/product/2/3/2337_400x600.jpg

[neon vomit]

I've been reading Grant Morrison comc books lately. I read Seaguy and Flex Mentallo. Both books are amazing. They're pretty "out there". You will be confused but it's worth it.

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/chubby3.JPG

http://www.comicbookgalaxy.com/images/flexmentallo1.jpg

[JasterIsFett]

Just finished reading the first 2 books of this.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__VxnCDx5g6w/RbARXcgvJ5I/AAAAAAAAABs/MP0sh03W3hs/s400/rocketo.jpg

Wasn't quite sure what to expect, but its damn well written and the story is surprisingly original. Looking forward to the next two.

[Cuclean]

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/chubby3.JPG


Is that a tiger shark?

[neon vomit]

Is that a tiger shark?

It's Charlie The Choona(a.k.a tuna). He has a New Jersey accent (I assume) and doesn't live in the water.

[Cuclean]

It's Charlie The Choona(a.k.a tuna). He has a New Jersey accent (I assume) and doesn't live in the water.

The shark like body and orange face made me think it was an odd amalgamation of a tiger and shark.

[Erasmus Cunk]

I've been reading Grant Morrison comc books lately. I read Seaguy and Flex Mentallo. Both books are amazing. They're pretty "out there". You will be confused but it's worth it.


Hmm. I'm really swinging away from Morrison at the moment. After reading The Invisibles and The Filth I thought he was a crazed genius. But now I'm starting to think he's merely crazed. The main problem with his style of writing is that he can knock out a load of slipshod, half baked nonsense, and all the Morrisonites will still lap it up and tell you you just don't get it if you dare criticise. Not that I'm accusing you of being one of those, Neon.

Although, despite having said that, I did enjoy Seaguy...

I think Seaguy 2 is coming out soon.

Edit: I've just remembered WE3, the exception to what I said above. If anybody hasn't read WE3, do it now, even if you don't normally like Morrison's style. It's a straight story, with none of his normal weirdo headfuck elements. It's about three animals (a dog, a cat and a rabbit, if memory serves), who have been transformed into cyborg weapons for the army, who escape from the lab where they were created. It's not really about that, though. It's really about friendship and loyalty and loss and... Just read it. It's fucking brilliant. Oh, and Frank Quitely's art is beautiful too.

Now I'm starting to swing back into the Morrison = genius camp. God, I'm fickle.

[neon vomit]

You should give Flex Mentallo a try. It's Morrison and Quitely. Morrison said it's his favorite thing he's ever written. It had legal issues and is out of print. So you should just [legally acquire] it.

The new Seaguy has one issue out already and was very interesting.

I have not read We3 but I'll get right on it. Since I'm already on a Morrison kick.

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo346/bodomsknight/halfananimalonastick.jpg?t=1239242551

[Erasmus Cunk]

Righto, chief. Flex Mentallo is next on my list.

[ZBarclay]

Just finished the Kevin Smith penned Green Arrow trade - Quiver. I grabbed it because Phil Hester was in town signing and I wanted something substantial for him to sign.
It was a good read. I didn't know anything about Green Arrow prior to this exposure with the character. I enjoyed it. It was a little wordy...but I'm sure that was due to Big Kev.
Hester is a prince of a man. Very gracious and very friendly. He chatted with everyone in the shop, and had I not been experiencing my first migraine headache of my life (I almost puked all over Rob's new comic wall) I would have loved to have stayed for a palaver.

[Shäne]

Just Read Batman: Cacophony by Kevin Smith and Walt Flanagan. It was okay, bit meh.

[Wade Wilson]

Does anybody know where I could find some Marvel comic scans?, in particular I'm looking for the 9/11 book that was published by Marvel "A Moment Of Silence"

[JasterIsFett]

check a torrent site, or, possibly (even though they're entirely undependable) a place like 4chan.

[ZBarclay]

Does anybody know where I could find some Marvel comic scans?, in particular I'm looking for the 9/11 book that was published by Marvel "A Moment Of Silence"

http://www.amazon.com/Moment-Silence-Marvel-Saluting-September/dp/B000O2KZCM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1240353636&sr=1-1

Just buy it. It's pretty cheap.

[neon vomit]

I've read seventy five issues of Fables. Pretty good.

[neon vomit]

I just read the first The Boys trade. I liked it but I wouldn't say it's top notch Ennis. Ennis' Battlefields series on the other hand is top notch. The Dear Billy mini was amazing.

[ZBarclay]

I just read the first The Boys trade. I liked it but I wouldn't say it's top notch Ennis.

When I finished Volume One, I felt like I'd found religion. I love love love that book. Volume Two was excellent as well, even though I had been warned that it was slow. Who'd ever guess there were so many uses for C4...besides JK...besides JK.

[JasterIsFett]

Just picked up trade #6 for The Walking Dead. I love this series.

[neon vomit]

Just picked up trade #6 for The Walking Dead. I love this series.

I've read every issue. Sixty issues of greatness.

[blackagave]

Just picked up trade #6 for The Walking Dead. I love this series.

Nice, I'm just slightly ahead of you. I'm about 1/3 of the way thru hardcover book 4. I only discovered The Walking Dead a few months ago. Once I get thru this one and trade 9 and 10, are any other zombie comics worth it? How does Marvel Zombies compare?

[neon vomit]

When I finished Volume One, I felt like I'd found religion. I love love love that book. Volume Two was excellent as well, even though I had been warned that it was slow. Who'd ever guess there were so many uses for C4...besides JK...besides JK.

I liked Volume Two much more than the first.

The first two issues of Flash: Rebirth have been very cool.

[JasterIsFett]

Nice, I'm just slightly ahead of you. I'm about 1/3 of the way thru hardcover book 4. I only discovered The Walking Dead a few months ago. Once I get thru this one and trade 9 and 10, are any other zombie comics worth it? How does Marvel Zombies compare?

Well, marvel zombies 1 and 2 are both written by Kirkman and they're both pretty damn good, including most of the spinoffs. Marvel Zombies 3 is not as good though. Different writer, different feel.

Definitely pick up the first two though if you have a chance.

[Tracker]

Just picked up trade #6 for The Walking Dead. I love this series.

You Could have waited and gotten the hard cover books. Each Volume of the Hard Cover books Has 12 Issues. I bought Books 1,2,& 3 of The Hard cover books of Walking dead. It is a great series. I Can't wait to see how it ends.

Marvel Zombies I never really Read. The only version of Marvel Zombies I have Read was the Army Of Darkness Vs Marvel Zombies. That was attually Pretty well writen.

Another good Series (If you like the Evil Dead series) was Freddy vs Jason Vs Ash. Which DC comics is apperntly writing a Sequil to. Which I will have to Order next time I go to the Comic book store.

[ZBarclay]

You Could have waited and gotten the hard cover books. Each Volume of the Hard Cover books Has 12 Issues. I bought Books 1,2,& 3 of The Hard cover books of Walking dead. It is a great series. I Can't wait to see how it ends.

Marvel Zombies I never really Read. The only version of Marvel Zombies I have Read was the Army Of Darkness Vs Marvel Zombies. That was attually Pretty well writen.

Another good Series (If you like the Evil Dead series) was Freddy vs Jason Vs Ash. Which DC comics is apperntly writing a Sequil to. Which I will have to Order next time I go to the Comic book store.

How do you decide which words to capitalize?

[Cuclean]

How do you decide which words to capitalize?

A dart board, I think. ;)

[RobinHoodDaffy]

Booyah! Two dart board analogies on one board at the same time!

[Cuclean]

Booyah! Two dart board analogies on one board at the same time!

How about that?! :)

[phit_demon]

How do you decide which words to capitalize?

Retard divination.

[Canadian Ryan]

Another part of my Neil Gaiman binge, currently reading Sandman Vol II.

Digging Dark Avengers, BPRD Black Goddess and super excited for Blackest Knight launch in summer. Dare Devil Noir was alright, I've been told that Spiderman Noir was better. Also slowly making my way through scans of Marvel's Secret Invasion. I know, I'm behind. I read maybe half of Civil War then read the wikipedia article instead.

[JasterIsFett]

Dare Devil Noir was alright, I've been told that Spiderman Noir was better. Also slowly making my way through scans of Marvel's Secret Invasion.

From what I've seen of Daredevil Noir, Spider-Man was a MUCH better series.

[Shäne]

Today I finished V for Vendetta.

Excellent. Every bit as good as Watchmen in my opinion.

[Spacemeat]

Almost as good as Watchmen
There we go. Better film adaption, though.

[Shäne]

There we go. Better film adaption, though.

Well I liked it just as much. Haven't seen the movie, [legally acquiring] it right now.

[Spacemeat]

Fair dues. Wait, I meant V was a better film adaption, although not as sinister as the original material. Watchmen is a solid 8. It stays true to the comic for the most part, but there's only so much you can fit into two and a half hours.

[phit_demon]

Haven't seen the movie, [legally acquiring] it right now.

I saw it in the cinema and it floored me. I absolutely loved it! I've never gone back to rewatch it for fear that it will lose its sheen.

[ZBarclay]

I saw it in the cinema and it floored me. I absolutely loved it! I've never gone back to rewatch it for fear that it will lose its sheen.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/070828/070828_sheen_hmed_6p.hmedium.jpg
OR
http://www.martin-sheen.com/martinsheen.jpg
?

[neon vomit]

I've never been able to watch V after reading the comic. I loved it before I read the comic though. Besides, Portman was supposed to be naked in it and she wasn't. Loses numerous cool points.

[phit_demon]

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/070828/070828_sheen_hmed_6p.hmedium.jpg
OR
http://www.martin-sheen.com/martinsheen.jpg
?
Can't it be both?

[Blast Thickneck]

http://www.thecousincompany.ca/-%20New%20Folder/Joe_estevez.jpg
Joe Estevez freely urinates on them both.


I finally got Kingdom Come in the mail today, after ordering it three weeks ago, stupid Amazon.

[phit_demon]

Joe Estevez freely urinates on them both.

Is Josiah Bartlett going to have to choke a bitch?

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3/phitdemon/martin-sheen.jpg

[NomenNescio]

Is Josiah Bartlett going to have to choke a bitch?

He meant that literally. Joe isn't all there nowadays.

[phit_demon]

He meant that literally. Joe isn't all there nowadays.

He now believes he's Mr. Sheen.

[Lotism]

I finally got Kingdom Come in the mail today, after ordering it three weeks ago, stupid Amazon.
I picked that up a while ago from them. It's an excellent read cover to cover and the artwork is exceptional. Enjoy it!!

[Jeremy Beadle]

http://emilioestevez.info/images/Emilio%20Estevez/Charlie_Sheen_and_Emilio_Estevez.jpg

There's only one Estevez, seen here with his sibling (who wisely didn't follow him down the plastic surgery route.) Poor sods, why do they do it?

[manmiles]

I'm currently making my way through the first volume of American Flagg, Howard Chaykin's (finally re-released 1980s comic book) and it's good stuff, really good stuff. Definately a recommended purchase.

[neon vomit]

Been reading Gotham Central by Ed Brubaker and Greg Rucka. Basically, it's a crime comic. The GCPD want to solve crimes without Batman. It is awesome.

[Aaron]

Im reading Alias by the god king that is Brian Michael Bendis

http://avidbookreader.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/alias.jpg

Not only is it a great read, but it fills in some blanks before his run on New Avengers

[Spacemeat]

Finally got around to reading robots vs. zombies. aaron got me for my 19th/20th I can't remember. Great stuff. inspired. I love the style. and the artwork is great. Short, but a good choice.

[Aaron]

Finally got around to reading robots vs. zombies. aaron got me for my 19th/20th I can't remember. Great stuff. inspired. I love the style. and the artwork is great. Short, but a good choice.

Ha! That was years ago!

[Spacemeat]

To be honest, I forgot about them. I saw them when I was looking for something to read in work. That was what, three years ago?

[Shäne]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fb/Thecrow.jpg
Just came in yesterday. I can't wait to get started on it. :)


EDIT: Absolutely loved it. Read the whole thing in one sitting.

[neon vomit]

Just read the second to last issue of Old Man Logan. Goddamn! That's a great comic book.

[Erasmus Cunk]

I don't know where these are from, but I want to.


http://g.imagehost.org/0985/8768c4b8bd82fb62662499bdc2980dad80f34fd0.jpg

http://g.imagehost.org/0792/d86cb91c4502c6a6ae3f121bdde37f1614d21a72.jpg

[Harvey MF'n Locust]

Feckin' awesome!

[Shäne]

I think those are from this.
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u119/murderface2/Forum/JCcovermini.jpg

[Aaron]

Yeah... I want it

[Kernal2306]

I haven't bought comics in years but I was looking through some of my older ones and I think I want to visit the comic store next week. What would everyone recommend?

[Erasmus Cunk]

I think those are from this.
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u119/murderface2/Forum/JCcovermini.jpg

Sweet. Thank you.

[neon vomit]

I haven't bought comics in years but I was looking through some of my older ones and I think I want to visit the comic store next week. What would everyone recommend?

What were you into years ago?

[Kernal2306]

What were you into years ago?

I still have a lot of X-Men titles, Spawn, and mostly superhero stuff. I have since gotten into horror and love zombie movies. Probably be easier to get into trades so I have a lot more to read at one time.

[JasterIsFett]

I still have a lot of X-Men titles, Spawn, and mostly superhero stuff. I have since gotten into horror and love zombie movies. Probably be easier to get into trades so I have a lot more to read at one time.

If you like horror and zombies then The Walking Dead is always a great start. Garth Ennis writes some good series that are a bit more serious too.

[neon vomit]

I still have a lot of X-Men titles, Spawn, and mostly superhero stuff. I have since gotten into horror and love zombie movies. Probably be easier to get into trades so I have a lot more to read at one time.

Dude, if you like zombies, you have to read The Walking Dead. It's my favorite ongoing comic book. It's written by Robert Kirkman. 61 issues and it hasn't had a dud yet.

Locke and Key has a trade out. It's written by Joe Hill ( Stephen King's kid) and it's a pretty awesome horror book.

For superheros I would recommend Invincible. It's also written by Kirkman.

If you have read Invincible and Walking Dead I will feel like an idiot.

[Kernal2306]

If you like horror and zombies then The Walking Dead is always a great start. Garth Ennis writes some good series that are a bit more serious too.

Dude, if you like zombies, you have to read The Walking Dead. It's my favorite ongoing comic book. It's written by Robert Kirkman. 61 issues and it hasn't had a dud yet.

Locke and Key has a trade out. It's written by Joe Hill ( Stephen King's kid) and it's a pretty awesome horror book.

For superheros I would recommend Invincible. It's also written by Kirkman.

If you have read Invincible and Walking Dead I will feel like an idiot.

Thanks for the suggestions!! I have not read any of these since my zombie phase only started about 10 years ago. Since I am a poor college student I just didn't want to get sucked into a series that crosses over between titles and I have to shell out a fortune each month to keep up.

[Harvey MF'n Locust]

Thanks for the suggestions!! I have not read any of these since my zombie phase only started about 10 years ago. Since I am a poor college student I just didn't want to get sucked into a series that crosses over between titles and I have to shell out a fortune each month to keep up.

I agree with walking dead. I have only read the first trade, but it is awesome. there is a compendium out too that has the first 48 issues in it. its a monster sized book, but I am seriously considering getting it, since there is only been 13 issues after it, it would be an easy way to get completley caught up in a short amount of purchases.

[neon vomit]

1st issue of Batman & Robin was awesome. Even with the new Batman. I hope Quitely can keep on time. His art is amazing.
http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo346/bodomsknight/BR.jpg?t=1244074452

[manmiles]

Yeah, I picked up 'Batman and Robin' as well, damn that's some good stuff.

[ZBarclay]

Probably be easier to get into trades so I have a lot more to read at one time.
In my opinion (as someone who has also recently returned to comics) trades are the way to go. Single issue collecting is for folks who collect...trades are for reading. You can take a trade into the can with you and not have to worry about dripping soap on it from hand washing...or water when you reach to dry your hands on a towel. You also don't have to be uber careful when turning pages to prevent wear. Trades are a reading man's comic. T'is true...t'is true.

[Kernal2306]

I have 2 whole boxes of comics that are just sitting there cuz I won't let anyone borrow them and I only read them at my desk for fear that something will happen to them. I am way over the collecting so trades it is for me.

[Jason Shiffy]

I'm about to buy the collections of "DMZ" and i'm buying something about Deadpool vs Shape shifting aliens (Something like that) this monday! :D

[JasterIsFett]

I'm about to buy the collections of "DMZ" and i'm buying something about Deadpool vs Shape shifting aliens (Something like that) this monday! :D

Do you really not know what those are?

DMZ is awesome and Secret Invasion: Deadpool was one of the best arcs of the series.

[Jason Shiffy]

Do you really not know what those are?

DMZ is awesome and Secret Invasion: Deadpool was one of the best arcs of the series.

Comics aren't that big in Holland bro , I had to find a store pretty far away from me! I'm starting with these 3 (2 DMZ collections)

Any tips for comics? I'm a noob but you can't blame me :(

[JasterIsFett]

Comics aren't that big in Holland bro , I had to find a store pretty far away from me! I'm starting with these 3 (2 DMZ collections)

Any tips for comics? I'm a noob but you can't blame me :(

Well, it depends on what you're looking for. If you want good superhero stories or just good comic series.

Good Trades (You might notice I'm a DC fan):
The Dark Knight Returns
Batman: Year One
Superman: Red Son
Superman: For All Seasons
The Joker (by Brian Azzarello)
Fables (series)
The Sandman (series)
Y: The Last Man (series)
Preacher (series)
The Walking Dead (series)
Kingdom Come
Marvel: 1602
Frank Miller's Robocop
Spider-Man: Blue
Daredevil: Yellow
Identity Crisis

But really...just browse this thread for a while and you'll get an idea for good series.

[Jason Shiffy]

I really like survival horror comics , i already have Volume 2 of the walking dead collection. Its good :D

[JasterIsFett]

I really like survival horror comics , i already have Volume 2 of the walking dead collection. Its good :D

In that case, 30 Days of Night and Alan Moore's Swamp Thing are really good series to check out. Swamp Thing is a bit on the expensive side though.

Hellblazer is good, not quite horror, but a lot of dark themes. Batman: Arkham Asylum is creepy and crazy and wonderful. Hellboy and Marvel Zombies (only 1 and 2, 3 and 4 suck) are good as well.

[Jason Shiffy]

I think I'm going to read DMZ and The walking dead first and then i'll take a look at 30 days of night and Swamp Thing. (Exactly how expensive is swamp thing?) I'll probably buy Arkham Asylum too :D

[JasterIsFett]

I think I'm going to read DMZ and The walking dead first and then i'll take a look at 30 days of night and Swamp Thing. (Exactly how expensive is swamp thing?) I'll probably buy Arkham Asylum too :D

Everytime that I've seen Swamp Thing in the store its in a fairly large trade (like the Walking Dead Compilations) and its around $50 USD.

[Jason Shiffy]

holyfuckingmonkeyshit

I think I'm going to read the DMZ compilations first and then i'm going to see what i'll get next. Prolly The Walking Dead because I started on that one anyway. Thanks for the tips! I'll definitely buy the Arkham Asylum one. It looks SWEET :D

[neon vomit]

Steve Rogers is coming back. It was just a matter of time. I liked Bucky as Cap too. His character was just adjusting to being Cap.

[neon vomit]

I read Astro City. It's one of the best comic books ever written.

[beckpoppins]

Steve Rogers is coming back. It was just a matter of time. I liked Bucky as Cap too. His character was just adjusting to being Cap.

you just can't keep a good hero down!

http://www.myteespot.com/images/Images_d/d_7307.jpg

[Aaron]

Steve Rogers is coming back. It was just a matter of time. I liked Bucky as Cap too. His character was just adjusting to being Cap.

Yeah I was kinda pissed off with the announcement. But I guess with the Cap movie coming up it was gonna happen no matter what.
I loved Steve Rogers but I thought they didn't make sense of his actions in Civil War, hopefully they don't screw this up and also they need to give Bucky the role that they've built him up for. He needs to be a major player now

[neon vomit]

Read issue sixty-three of Invincible. I can't believe the death that happened. I am stunned. Kirkman's characters always stay dead. :eek:

[phit_demon]

Yeah I was kinda pissed off with the announcement.

Pissed off maybe, but surely you weren't shocked given the comic world's predilection for such behaviour? Doomsday, anyone?

[Aaron]

Pissed off maybe, but surely you weren't shocked given the comic world's predilection for such behaviour? Doomsday, anyone?

Not shocked at all, I was just hoping they'd wait longer

[phit_demon]

Not shocked at all, I was just hoping they'd wait longer

The corpse still being warm, so to speak.

[beckpoppins]

Pissed off maybe, but surely you weren't shocked given the comic world's predilection for such behaviour? Doomsday, anyone?

serious, i mean unless you're this chick...

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3133/119782-102647-women-in-refrigerato_large.jpg

death in a comic is less serious then a bad flu.

[neon vomit]

The corpse still being warm, so to speak.

If my assumptions are correct, he never died... Sort of like my assumptions of Bruce Wayne...

The main thing is that it's being written by Ed Brubaker. He's an awesome writer. I don't really care what they do to the character as long as it's well written. That's why Captain America has been good without Steve Rogers. Ed can write a damn fine comic book.

[Aaron]

The main thing is that it's being written by Ed Brubaker. He's an awesome writer. I don't really care what they do to the character as long as it's well written. That's why Captain America has been good without Steve Rogers. Ed can write a damn fine comic book.

Strongly seconded

[beckpoppins]

WHY!!!!

you all know about the spider-man musical right, bono?

ok....

some casting got announced... that whore evan racheal wood is mary jane (i am team-dita) and... and....

i'm so hurt...


alan cumming is norman Osborn... (http://www.wired.com/underwire/2009/06/spider-man-musical-ensnares-cumming-wood-but-no-peter-parker/)

how could you do this to me alan, get wrapped up in this debacle?

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[BallsMonkey]

How do I keep missing this stuff?

Currently reading: TMNT, Tales of the TMNT, Usagi Yojimbo, Booster Gold, Power Girl, Batman, Red Robin, Batman and Robin, Detective Comics, Outsiders, Superman, Superman: World of New Krypton, Action Comics, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Green Lantern Corps, Teen Titans,Justice League of America, Justice Society of America, Flash: Rebirth, Dark Reign: Young Avengers, Guardians of the Galaxy, Deadpool, Amazing Spider-Man, The Walking Dead

[BallsMonkey]

Strongly seconded

I just want to know what these means for Bucky-Cap. He really hasn't had much time to really establish himself.

[mitch_the_conquistador]

I have read so many good comic books since I have last been on here that I cannot think of what to talk about.

No that's not true, I'll talk about one, and I'll even find a pic for you.

Garth Ennis and Phil Winsdale's Goddess published in around 1991, but worked on for around 3 yrs by all party's. A brilliant book with a beautiful story, great dialogue (apart from what I will talk about below), and artwork which is simultaneously gorgeous and terrifying.

I have one problem with the book which is elements of the dialogue. I'll put it in white just in case peeps get pissed off at me. Ennis uses the words "frig" or "friggin" a lot as a substitute for sweary words, which kind of upsets the reading of it. Reason being; it feels forced by editors or standards dudes or whatever. Because the first couple of issues have "fuck" etc in them, and then gradually it is omitted until it is not used at all. This is a hardcore story, with hardcore art, that gets tamer in its language as it progresses rather than vice versa. The editing of the lang used is quite noticable, and takes you out of the story, making you think about comic publication politics rather than whats on the page. But that's my only problem.

Great book! Read it!

Another point. I recently started going to a new comic shop in Glasgow called Futureshock (on Woodlands Rd, in the West End if you're interested). It's a wee owner ran shop with a great selection of in print and out of print comic books. The owner Neil is a really cool older gent, and is always up for a long chat. He also goes out of his way to make you return, with various offers. I go there now to get most of my stuff, and then I go to the Uisga Beatha on the next block to read which has a great selection of whisky's and ale's. Top Day. Advert over. Here's that pic;

http://www.dccomics.com/media/product/1/6/1609_400x600.jpg

[neon vomit]

Astro City and Gotham Central have made me fall crazy in love with comics.
http://s390.photobucket.com/albums/oo346/bodomsknight/th_NearnessofYou_im.jpg http://s390.photobucket.com/albums/oo346/bodomsknight/th_gc22lrg.jpg

[Cheney]

Picked this up today oddly enough they didn't have 1, or 3?
http://www.newkadia.com/Covers/L/M/Marvel%20Zombies%202/marvelzombies21.jpg


But in short. If ever we have super heroes and a zombie virus breaks out we are all royally F%#@*D!

[Jason Shiffy]

http://powercrash.darkzone.lu/photos3/Milla%20Jovovich%20Resident%20Evil%20Red%20Dress%2 02.jpg

http://barfblog.foodsafety.ksu.edu/uploads/image/bruce_campbell_army_of_darkness.jpg

http://torontoist.com/attachments/toronto_david/2008_10_06_ving.jpg

http://www.tarantino.info/wiki/images/Elwray2.jpg

Don't give up 2 fast sir xD

[beckpoppins]

http://necrocomicom.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/mzomb-army-of-darkness-vs-marvel-zombies.jpg

we always find a way to kick their asses, zombies-smombies.

[Jason Shiffy]

Call me crazy but... A zombie invasion would be so cool :D

I would kick zombie ass, El Wray style :D

[Cheney]

http://powercrash.darkzone.lu/photos3/Milla%20Jovovich%20Resident%20Evil%20Red%20Dress%2 02.jpg

http://barfblog.foodsafety.ksu.edu/uploads/image/bruce_campbell_army_of_darkness.jpg

http://torontoist.com/attachments/toronto_david/2008_10_06_ving.jpg

http://www.tarantino.info/wiki/images/Elwray2.jpg

Don't give up 2 fast sir xD



THEY would live, most of us would die. Freaking superhero zombies I admit I'd be dead. Human zombies I can handle, not alone, but I can handle the thought of being able to live. Is it me or is any where you go you look at a place and be like "If it happens now I can go there and then go there and etc." or is it just me?

[Jason Shiffy]

THEY would live, most of us would die. Freaking superhero zombies I admit I'd be dead. Human zombies I can handle, not alone, but I can handle the thought of being able to live. Is it me or is any where you go you look at a place and be like "If it happens now I can go there and then go there and etc." or is it just me?

No sir , theres a supermarket here and when its closed, Like they shut it down COMPLETELY! BUT!! Theres a vent on the roof , i would prolly grab an axe and a gun and stay there and after all the food is gone i'll go outside and make my way to a group or whatever...

[beckpoppins]

i am constantly prepping for zombies.

[JasterIsFett]

i am constantly prepping for zombies.

Ever go into costco or sam's club and have a bunch of supplies...

and when you're checking out, the teller makes some comment about you "getting ready for the big one?"

you say..."no...zombies..."

He chuckles...but you weren't joking.
;):p;):D

[Cheney]

No but now i'm going to mwhahahahaha.

[Canadian Ryan]

I have a pseudo-buddy that out of the blue went and got his firearms liscense and bought a $1200 boomstick. The only reason he would give us is "Zombies...."

[JK]

I've had a couple of people ask me why I carry. I tell 'em it's a lot easier to carry than a cop.

When seconds counts, 911 is minutes away.

[beckpoppins]

guns smuns when it comes to zombies, they are loud and run out of ammo, i'm a girl who keeps and axe and a sword handy....
i shit you not.

[BallsMonkey]

guns smuns when it comes to zombies, they are loud and run out of ammo, i'm a girl who keeps and axe and a sword handy....
i shit you not.

I'd rather use trench knives, they're the perfect zombie killers.

[beckpoppins]

hey, i want at least 3 feet between me and a zombie...

[mitch_the_conquistador]

i am constantly prepping for zombies.

I'm constantly fluffing for zombies.

[ManGuy]

Have any of you read The Zombie Survival Guide by Max Brooks?
Its incredibly bad ass and it goes in depth with how to survive, what weapons you should have, how to tell if there is an outbreak, all kinds of zombie wonderful-ness.

[BallsMonkey]

hey, i want at least 3 feet between me and a zombie...

To me, there's something more satisfying about taking them out up close and personal.

[Jason Shiffy]

I just got "DEADPOOL merc with a mouth" ZOMBIES! CAVEMEN! DINOSAURS! ZOMBIE-CAVEMEN!

Head Trip Part 1 of 6 and a Cable comic!

I love it :D

[OneSeraphiel]

Anyone know of a deviant art like site for comic book artists?

[Omaru]

since the only way to get weapons in this country is to be in gang, consider me fucked unless I use whatever can get my hands on.
I mean Matt Damon used a pen as a weapon right?

[JK]

since the only way to get weapons in this country is to be in gang, consider me fucked unless I use whatever can get my hands on.
I mean Matt Damon used a pen as a weapon right?

Are men still allowed to carry a cane in the UK? Get a good, well-balanced walking cane- there are some really amazing self-defense techniques that can be implemented with a cane...

[beckpoppins]

http://aesthetictraditionalist.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/cane-sword-rattan.jpg

[neon vomit]

So, I just read Civil War and Secret Invasion. Except it was in the pages of Astro City that was written 10 years prior. I'm wondering if Kurt Busiek let Marvel use his 10 year old story lines. Otherwise Busiek is a better man than I because I would sue the shit out of Marvel. Plus Busiek's was actually good and worth my money.

[JasterIsFett]

Just reading through Marvel's Annihilation series. I'm a little sad that Civil War eclipsed this event. Annihilation was so much better IMO.

[Antonio_Bay]

Lately I've been wanting to sit down and re-read the Death of, and Reign, of Superman (the Supermen)

Today is that day!

[neon vomit]

Fell is great. Every issue is a self contained story consisting of 16 pages. 16 dense pages. Ben Templesmith's art reminds me of Ralph Steadman. It takes you as long to read the 16 pages as it would with 22 pages. The price is only 1.99. Brilliant!

[BallsMonkey]

Finally....Blackest Night Has Begun!

Suck I wont be able to get out to the comic shop till Saturday.

[neon vomit]

Finally....Blackest Night Has Begun!

Suck I wont be able to get out to the comic shop till Saturday.

Yes! The three year long prelude has ended. ;)

[Shäne]

Fell is great. Every issue is a self contained story consisting of 16 pages. 16 dense pages. Ben Templesmith's art reminds me of Ralph Steadman. It takes you as long to read the 16 pages as it would with 22 pages. The price is only 1.99. Brilliant!

Fell is awesomesauce. I'm a few issues behind and need to get caught up though.

[JasterIsFett]

Got Back from the comic book shop. Haven't been in in a couple weeks.

Batman & Robin #2: Good, Quietly does some damn good art. I'm not liking how antagonistic and unlikable Morrison is making Damien.

Batman #688: I think it had a better story than B&R#2. It was a bit more personal with Dick and he didn't seem like such a bitch. I wonder if Judd Winick and Grant Morrison are working together or not, because they have a lot of similar ideas going on, Winick just seems to do it better.

Captain America - Reborn #1: It seemed short. I like where its going, however, I'm getting tired of the shoddy explanations involving tachyons of some sort.

X-Men-Legacy #226 (Utopia): Good, I'm really liking this Utopia storyline.

Red Robin #2: Easily my favorite comic this week. I'm loving Tim's determination and ruthlessness. He's developing into his own hero very well.

Green Lantern #43 (Prelude to Blackest Night): Hot damn, even though he looks like a tool and the orgin is a bit whacked, the black hand is a creepy bastard.

[Shäne]

I've read the first two volumes of Joss Whedon's Astonishing X-Men and so far I love it. The [highlight to read] fastball special in the first volume nearly gave me a nerdgasm. :D

[beckpoppins]

I've read the first two volumes of Joss Whedon's Astonishing X-Men and so far I love it. The [highlight to read] fastball special in the first volume nearly gave me a nerdgasm. :D

there is nothing that man can't do.... joss is god.

[Erasmus Cunk]

I've been catching up on old Warren Ellis stuff.

Planetary is great. I like the way the overall story-arc starts off fairly confused, but is eventually revealed to be a tapestry of interconnected events. Issues that originally seemed to merely be interesting one-offs, unconnected to the main story, are shown to actually be integral to it. Brilliant stuff.

The Authority, however, is garbage. The art was nice, but the storylines were hackneyed and some of the dialogue was awful, full of clunky exposition. I know Ellis is capable of excellent writing, e.g. Transmetropolitan and Planetary, so the sheer terribleness of this made me think it may be deliberate. I can't think of a decent reason why this would be the case, though.

In summary: Planetary=good; Authority=bad.

[Shäne]

Just finished Astonishing X-Men. Absolutely loved every page. :)

[neon vomit]

In summary: Planetary=good; Authority=bad.

I love Ellis and agree with you. Most comic writers seem to have that book where they don't use their brain. Garth Ennis occasionally writes scripts with his penis.

Why are there only 9 issues of Fell? There should be at least 50. Brilliant comic on every level.

[BallsMonkey]

Just finished Astonishing X-Men. Absolutely loved every page. :)

I bought the first 4 trades, fucking genius.

In one fell swoop, Joss...

Made Shadowcat my favorite Marvel character
Rightfully brought back Colosuss
Made Cyclops badass
Made Emma Frost sympathetic
Made Wolverine interesting

[Erasmus Cunk]

I love Ellis and agree with you. Most comic writers seem to have that book where they don't use their brain. Garth Ennis occasionally writes scripts with his penis.

Why are there only 9 issues of Fell? There should be at least 50. Brilliant comic on every level.

Yeah, as competent a writer as Ellis is, I don't think he's averse to phoning in the odd hack job in order to pay the bills. There was one he did for Avatar Press some years ago about a detective trying to catch a serial child rapist or something; it was so self-conciously 'dark' and 'gritty' it almost read like a parody, which I don't think was the intention.

The man wrote Transmetropolitan though, which is one of my favourite series, like, evarrrrr, so I'm willing to forgive the occasional transgression.

I haven't read Fell yet. I'll put it on my list.

[Aaron]

I bought the first 4 trades, fucking genius.

In one fell swoop, Joss...

Made Shadowcat my favorite Marvel character
Rightfully brought back Colosuss
Made Cyclops badass
Made Emma Frost sympathetic
Made Wolverine interesting

Yup, the only thing I hate about his run was 1) The Danger Room story was a bit lame (some parts were good though) and 2) his run ended :(

[RobinHoodDaffy]

Yup, the only thing I hate about his run was 1) The Danger Room story was a bit lame (some parts were good though) and 2) his run ended :(

His danger room story was still a fun story, just not as good as the rest of his run. I still liked it better than everything else going on in the X-verse.




Well, except X-Factor, that book has very little to do with the rest. When it does it gets in the way of the story, and it is better than the other titles with it's hand tied behind it's back.

[Aaron]

Seconded.
It really broke X-Factor's stride when they made the book link with Secret Invasion. It was needless and just made me want it to get back to business.

But yeah, even though the Danger Room reveal was the low point in Joss's run, it was still better than what a lot of other books put out.

So far, my Marvel must reads are
New/Mighty Avengers (not only to keep up with what is going on in the MU but also to catch me some Luke Cage!)
Iron Fist (loves)
Daredevil (old favourite that has never let me down)
X-Factor (as spoken previously)
Thor (just got into it)

[neon vomit]

Thor (just got into it)

J. Michael Straczynski: His writing has a pattern. He starts off strong then it turns into a big pile of shit. As seen in his run on Spider-Man. It hasn't happened with Thor yet. He has only put out two or three issues of Thor out this year. That's annoying. Especially since Thor is supposed to be a big part of the event coming up.

[Aaron]

J. Michael Straczynski: His writing has a pattern. He starts off strong then it turns into a big pile of shit. As seen in his run on Spider-Man. It hasn't happened with Thor yet. He has only put out two or three issues of Thor out this year. That's annoying. Especially since Thor is supposed to be a big part of the event coming up.

Apparently he has quit the title though as (rumour has it) he's been arguing with Marvel execs that he didnt want to have to keep changing his stories to fit in with all the crossover events.
I agree with his issue with it, must be frustrating for someone trying to tell their own tale.

[neon vomit]

Apparently he has quit the title though as (rumour has it) he's been arguing with Marvel execs that he didnt want to have to keep changing his stories to fit in with all the crossover events.
I agree with his issue with it, must be frustrating for someone trying to tell their own tale.

My opinions aside, he should be able to write any story he wants. Oh yeah, Hes going to DC. ;) *twitter wink* Here's his whole statement (http://www.ifanboy.com/content/articles/In_case_you_missed_it__J__Michael_Straczynski_to_l eave__Thor_). He doesn't seem too mad about it.

[Aaron]

My opinions aside, he should be able to write any story he wants. Oh yeah, Hes going to DC.

Well if you quit the big boys like Marvel, the only place to go is second best ;)

[neon vomit]

Well if you quit the big boys like Marvel, the only place to go is second best ;)

If I had to choose between the two, I would go with Marvel. Why?

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo346/bodomsknight/Bendisswears.jpg?t=1247474595
Bendis.

[Aaron]

Yup, he's pretty much running the show and probably writing about 50% of their output himself.
If he goes off the rails or leaves, Marvel are going to be fucked.

[BallsMonkey]

If I had to choose between the two, I would go with Marvel. Why?

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo346/bodomsknight/Bendisswears.jpg?t=1247474595
Bendis.

Marvel may have Bendis, but DC has the greatness that is....

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/9241/465842-img001_large.jpg

Geoff Johns

[Aaron]

Johns may be prettier, but in a bar fight you'll want Bendis on your side

[neon vomit]

Marvel may have Bendis, but DC has the greatness that is....

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/9241/465842-img001_large.jpg

Geoff Johns

Grant Morrison will now steal your soul for saying that.
http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo346/bodomsknight/grant-morrison.jpg?t=1247510744

[JasterIsFett]

Grant Morrison will now steal your soul for saying that.
http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo346/bodomsknight/grant-morrison.jpg?t=1247510744

That ain't much of an arguing point. I love about 1/3 of his stuff. The rest is just hard to read and pretentious. He references obscure storylines and characters because he wants to and makes the comics inaccessable to average readers.

[neon vomit]

That ain't much of an arguing point. I love about 1/3 of his stuff. The rest is just hard to read and pretentious. He references obscure storylines and characters because he wants to and makes the comics inaccessable to average readers.

Who's arguing? It's a funny picture of Grant Morrison nothing more.

[JasterIsFett]

I'll allow it.

:D:D:D:D

[phit_demon]

How about that Far Side, huh?

Gotta love that one-picture storytelling...yeah!

[BallsMonkey]

I haven't read much of Morrison, but I did read Batman R.I.P and Final Crisis


Didn't leave a good impression in my mind.

[JasterIsFett]

I couldn't bring myself to read more than 5 or 6 issues of Final Crisis. It was fairly...how can I put this delicately...retarded?

R.I.P. was slightly better, but I just can't stand how one writer can write two different stories at about the same time and not acknowledge the others existence then continue one storyline while completely ignoring the other once they both are finished...all the while giving a big f-you to the fans who don't know what the hell is going on.

[neon vomit]

I couldn't bring myself to read more than 5 or 6 issues of Final Crisis. It was fairly...how can I put this delicately...retarded?

R.I.P. was slightly better, but I just can't stand how one writer can write two different stories at about the same time and not acknowledge the others existence then continue one storyline while completely ignoring the other once they both are finished...all the while giving a big f-you to the fans who don't know what the hell is going on.
DC screwed the pooch by releasing it out of order. Reading it in order I found it to be interesting but nothing special. It did seem completely retarded out of order though.

FINAL CRISIS # 1- 3
SUPERMAN BEYOND # 1- 2
SUBMIT
FINAL CRISIS # 4 – 5
BATMAN #682 – 683
FINAL CRISIS # 6 – 7

[Jeremy Beadle]

2000ad used to do that cross-magazine storyline thing. Awkward as fuck frankly.:mad:

[BallsMonkey]

Is anyone else besides me reading Scott Pilgrim? It's honestly one of the best books today.

[neon vomit]

Is anyone else besides me reading Scott Pilgrim? It's honestly one of the best books today.

Yes! It's goofy as hell and brilliant. I can't believe it's going to be a movie by Edgar Wright no less.

[Aaron]

I've never even seen it in a comic book store

[TheHangingBrain]

Is anyone else besides me reading Scott Pilgrim? It's honestly one of the best books today.

I keep hearing about this, I will definitely check it out.

[BallsMonkey]

I've never even seen it in a comic book store

Track it down man, I guarantee you'll love it.

[BallsMonkey]

Yes! It's goofy as hell and brilliant. I can't believe it's going to be a movie by Edgar Wright no less.

Have you been watching the video blogs? It looks awesome. It's near perfect.

[neon vomit]

Have you been watching the video blogs? It looks awesome. It's near perfect.

I have and it does. Seeing O'Malley on set and not disgruntled is great.

I've been reading Scalped. It's very good. Probably the most graphic comic I've ever read and not in a fun way. The writing and art are top notch. Vertigo continue to put out stellar comics.

[JasterIsFett]

Anybody read Blackest Night #1?

Holy shit for that ending, yo.

[RobinHoodDaffy]

Anybody read Blackest Night #1?

Holy shit for that ending, yo.

It surprised me. I am really looking forward to see where it goes. And it involves part of my Justice League, so that's fun.

[Sharp-O]

Anybody read Blackest Night #1?

Holy shit for that ending, yo.


I loved it, I've read it over a dozen times now and it still blows me away. It's already off to a stronger start than Final Crisis and proof that Geoff Johns is the man for summer books. It's gonna be sad when Ivan Reis leaves GL too, it's very much his book.

But yeah, Blackest Night is gonna be the biggest and best book of the year, it's great :cool:

[BallsMonkey]

Anybody read Blackest Night #1?

Holy shit for that ending, yo.

Read it while wearing my complementary Black Lantern ring.

T'was awesome yo. Can't believe they ended it the way we did, but I cannot wait till issue two.

[Sharp-O]

I can only imagine that the ranks of the Black Lanterns will grow as the series goes on after that final page lol

[JasterIsFett]

I'm just gonna say, I'm really liking this mini-series of Tales of the Green Lantern Corps for Blackest Night.

The Saint Walker story was great. Most of the others are good/mediocre, but they give a nice little overview of the different corps and what they stand for.

I'm still frustrated about the mystery surrounding the Indigo lanterns though.

[Sharp-O]

I'm just gonna say, I'm really liking this mini-series of Tales of the Green Lantern Corps for Blackest Night.

The Saint Walker story was great. Most of the others are good/mediocre, but they give a nice little overview of the different corps and what they stand for.

I'm still frustrated about the mystery surrounding the Indigo lanterns though.

I like Saint Walker's story as it shows that religion will get you killed. lol Saint Walker is more of a jackass than I realised after reading that story.

I saw The Indigo Tribe's ability coming. Every emotion in the spectrum is skewed a little so it figures compassion is shown at it's extreme the first time we see it used.

The second issue is a little better than the first but still no story about Dex-Starr the Red Lantern kitty. That's what I wanna see :D

[ZBarclay]

I can only imagine that the ranks of the Black Lanterns will grow as the series goes on after that final page lol

Careful...careful...no spoilers...no spoilers...

[Sharp-O]

Careful...careful...no spoilers...no spoilers...

I worded it specifically for no spoilers :p

[BallsMonkey]

The New JLA

http://i.livescience.com/images/jlapinup_sol-02.jpg

[Sharp-O]

Pretty obvious that it's using the roster from Cry For Justice. Green Arrow, Supergirl, Congorrilla (WTF) Atom, etc.

I don't understand the art. Hal looks ok but Batman (Dick) is smiling, Donna looks like a downser and Mon'El looks like Superboy-Prime! Who the hell is drawing this book and why doesn't anyone have Ed Benes' number?

[neon vomit]

Pretty obvious that it's using the roster from Cry For Justice. Green Arrow, Supergirl, Congorrilla (WTF) Atom, etc.

I don't understand the art. Hal looks ok but Batman (Dick) is smiling, Donna looks like a downser and Mon'El looks like Superboy-Prime! Who the hell is drawing this book and why doesn't anyone have Ed Benes' number?

They've talked about Dick smiling when he fights.

[TomHarrington]

They've talked about Dick smiling when he fights.

I think it depends on what he's fighting about.
http://newmedia2.funnyjunk.com/pictures/af23ec62358e327ce20bf497bec934f898eaf17e_m.jpg

[Sharp-O]

They've talked about Dick smiling when he fights.

and I like Dick as Batman, but for the casual reader who might not know that Nightwing is now Batman, I think it might be a bit off putting.

[neon vomit]

I think it depends on what he's fighting about.
http://newmedia2.funnyjunk.com/pictures/af23ec62358e327ce20bf497bec934f898eaf17e_m.jpg

That will be my desktop background the day after Thanksgiving until New Years.

[BallsMonkey]

Pretty obvious that it's using the roster from Cry For Justice. Green Arrow, Supergirl, Congorrilla (WTF) Atom, etc.

I don't understand the art. Hal looks ok but Batman (Dick) is smiling, Donna looks like a downser and Mon'El looks like Superboy-Prime! Who the hell is drawing this book and why doesn't anyone have Ed Benes' number?

Not really. It's pretty obvious that's Starfire in the back. And possibly Raven.

As for the art, it's not that bad. I'm sure it will look better when the team actually debuts. And the smiling is just to help establish that Dick is a completely different Batman. As for Mon-El, he doesn't look like Prime to me.

[BallsMonkey]

and I like Dick as Batman, but for the casual reader who might not know that Nightwing is now Batman, I think it might be a bit off putting.

The casual reader has probably already read Batman and Batman and Robin.

[Sharp-O]

The casual reader has probably already read Batman and Batman and Robin.

Casual readers in England (and to me) means the kids who pick up the "special edition" comics published by Panini, which are reprints of the american books. They've only just started Civil War in their Marvel Line and Final Crisis in their DC books. (Don't ask me why the Marvel books are 4 years behind and the DC ones are a year or so behind)

But you have a point, I'm just saying :P

[ZBarclay]

They've talked about Dick smiling when he fights.

I don't see a smile on Batman in that picture...at all.

[JasterIsFett]

I don't see a smile on Batman in that picture...at all.

http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt306/JasterIsFett/1212714572505.jpg

:D...but really it can be interpreted both ways.

[BallsMonkey]

Tee hee, both ways.

[neon vomit]

Here's a close up from a fight scene in the latest issue.
http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo346/bodomsknight/DickSmile.png?t=1248591313

[Sharp-O]

Here's a close up from a fight scene in the latest issue.
http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo346/bodomsknight/DickSmile.png?t=1248591313

Why does that make me feel like I'm wearing the original Robin costume. The one with the tight shorts and the booties...... :(

[Antonio_Bay]

Brian Bowland (http://www.brianbolland.net/gallery.html). Awesome stuff. Checkout The Killing Joke inks.

[neon vomit]

Cover of Detective Comics. Just gorgeous.
http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo346/bodomsknight/cover-Batwomen.jpg?t=1248813232

[manmiles]

They've only just started Civil War in their Marvel Line and Final Crisis in their DC books. (Don't ask me why the Marvel books are 4 years behind and the DC ones are a year or so behind)

But you have a point, I'm just saying :P

The DC Panini reprints have only been going a few year but the Marvel Line is descended from the reprints of the Spider-man comics from Marvel UK days of the 90s (first with the 'Complete Spider-man' which reprinted all four on-going Spider-man titles at the time, Spider-man, Amazing, Spectacular, Web of...) and thus they were always pretty far behind.

[manmiles]

Cover of Detective Comics. Just gorgeous.
http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo346/bodomsknight/cover-Batwomen.jpg?t=1248813232

This is your brain on Batwoman, any questions?

[Sharp-O]

This is your brain on Batwoman, any questions?

Yes, when did Grant Morrison start drawing and is there a way to cripple his hands?

[phit_demon]

http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt306/JasterIsFett/1212714572505.jpg

See, now that's just lazy LOLbowski making. This...


http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3/phitdemon/13.jpg


...is more like it.

[neon vomit]

Yes, when did Grant Morrison start drawing and is there a way to cripple his hands?

I think J.H. Williams does brilliant art.
http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo346/bodomsknight/Batwoman.jpg?t=1248888436

[JasterIsFett]

See, now that's just lazy LOLbowski making. This...


http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3/phitdemon/13.jpg


...is more like it.

Hey...I didn't make it. The dregs at 4chan did.

[manmiles]

I think J.H. Williams does brilliant art.
http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo346/bodomsknight/Batwoman.jpg?t=1248888436

Damn, I might actually have to pick this title up.

[Sharp-O]

I think J.H. Williams does brilliant art.
http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo346/bodomsknight/Batwoman.jpg?t=1248888436

It's good but I think I'll stick with Ivan Reis, Neon :D

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa129/Sharp-O/GREEN_LANTERN_25_pgs_02-03a.jpg

[phit_demon]

Hey...I didn't make it. The dregs at 4chan did.

Ah, 4chan posters - the internet equivalent of Sand People.

[Sharp-O]

Ah, 4chan posters - the internet equivalent of Sand People.

They'll always be back and in greater numbers. ;)

[Erasmus Cunk]

It's good but I think I'll stick with Ivan Reis, Neon :D

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa129/Sharp-O/GREEN_LANTERN_25_pgs_02-03a.jpg

Ah, I didn't realise you're blind.

[Sharp-O]

Ah, I didn't realise you're blind.

What's wrong with Ivan Reis, Erasmus?

[Erasmus Cunk]

Well, I'll admit I'm not too familiar with his work; in fact I'd never heard of him before you posted one of his pictures. But that one you posted is awful. The style is far too anonymous for my taste. To me it looks indistinguishable from about a thousand other artists. It's far too 'comicy' in style. Which is probably a stupid and ridiculous reason for not liking it.

J H Williams III, on the other hand, is one of the most distinctive and versatile artists working in comics today. I think you're mad for preferring Reis to Williams.

But horses for courses and all that. One man's whatsit is another man's thingummyjig.

[BallsMonkey]

Just got the TMNT Collected Book Volume 1. It has the first 11 issues plus the five one-shot issues. It's a really really good read and the perfect thing for people who want to check out the Turtles comic books.

[phit_demon]

Just got the TMNT Collected Book Volume 1. It has the first 11 issues plus the five one-shot issues. It's a really really good read and the perfect thing for people who want to check out the Turtles comic books.

I am quite tempted to check it out. I might just have to take a trip to Forbidden Planet during the week.

[Antonio_Bay]

Just got the TMNT Collected Book Volume 1. It has the first 11 issues plus the five one-shot issues. It's a really really good read and the perfect thing for people who want to check out the Turtles comic books.

Apart from the cartoon 'Mutant Hero' comics, the only TMNT comic I own is the Image crossover with the Savage Dragon. Killer artwork.

[Sharp-O]

Well, I'll admit I'm not too familiar with his work; in fact I'd never heard of him before you posted one of his pictures. But that one you posted is awful. The style is far too anonymous for my taste. To me it looks indistinguishable from about a thousand other artists. It's far too 'comicy' in style. Which is probably a stupid and ridiculous reason for not liking it.

J H Williams III, on the other hand, is one of the most distinctive and versatile artists working in comics today. I think you're mad for preferring Reis to Williams.

But horses for courses and all that. One man's whatsit is another man's thingummyjig.

Maybe that's why I like it. I've seen so many people do "something different" with their art style and for it to look weak sauce, it feels nice to just have the art tell the story in a simple but awesome way rather than just distract you from the story. Plus Reis is one half of the reason why Green Lantern has become such a big deal in the past few years (the other being the godly adonis of writing that is Geoff Johns) Plus if you take a look at Sinestro Corps War onwards, you can see Reis is approaching George Perez levels for awesome crowd scenes/battles.

Here's an example of something less busy but still stunning.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/thumb/6/64/Green_Lantern_v.4_19.jpg/300px-Green_Lantern_v.4_19.jpg

[Lotism]

I have a theory concerning Professor X. To be blunt about it, if the guy wasn't handicapped from the waste down he would not waste his time teaching mutants. He would be Hugh Hefner with infinite more women. I would. And he would too except that his lower body doesn't work. And it's for that reason and that reason alone his creator made that decision.;)

[Aaron]

If we're talking about great comic artists here is my two faves

1) Ashley Wood

http://www.comics101.com/comics101//news/Comics%20101/103/zvr-cvr1a.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p269/RedZarn/TheMachine4_AshleyWood.jpg

2) Alex Maleev

http://www.ica.org.uk/thumbnail.php?max=408&id=5487

http://www.creativeimagingnews.com/artblog/uploaded_images/Daredevil_41-742813.jpg

[BallsMonkey]

Maybe that's why I like it. I've seen so many people do "something different" with their art style and for it to look weak sauce, it feels nice to just have the art tell the story in a simple but awesome way rather than just distract you from the story. Plus Reis is one half of the reason why Green Lantern has become such a big deal in the past few years (the other being the godly adonis of writing that is Geoff Johns) Plus if you take a look at Sinestro Corps War onwards, you can see Reis is approaching George Perez levels for awesome crowd scenes/battles.

Here's an example of something less busy but still stunning.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/thumb/6/64/Green_Lantern_v.4_19.jpg/300px-Green_Lantern_v.4_19.jpg

It's obvious that Johns and Reis/Ethan Van Sciver(I hope I spelled that correctly) are pretty much becoming the new Wolfman/Perez superteam.

[Sharp-O]

It's obvious that Johns and Reis/Ethan Van Sciver(I hope I spelled that correctly) are pretty much becoming the new Wolfman/Perez superteam.

Damn straight, BM :D

[BallsMonkey]

If we're talking about great comic artists here is my two faves

1) Ashley Wood

http://www.comics101.com/comics101//news/Comics%20101/103/zvr-cvr1a.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p269/RedZarn/TheMachine4_AshleyWood.jpg

2) Alex Maleev

http://www.ica.org.uk/thumbnail.php?max=408&id=5487

http://www.creativeimagingnews.com/artblog/uploaded_images/Daredevil_41-742813.jpg

I'm probably not gonna post samples from each, but my favorite artists would be...

Amanda Conner
Ethan Van Sciver
Ivan Reis
Dan Berger
Kevin Eastman
Paul Harmon
Dustin Nguyen
Bruce Timm
Andy Kubert
Darwyn Cooke
Aaron Lopestri
George Perez
Darick Robertson
Steve Lavigne

[Sharp-O]

My fave artists would include a few of BM's picks as well as:

Eddy Barrows
Joe Prado
Ed Benes
Don Figueroa
Guido Guidi
Ian Churchill
Carlos Pacheco
Rafael Albuquerque
David Baldeon
Steve McNiven
Jim Cheung

[OhNoBuffalo]

Zombies vs Robots is good stuff so far.

[Scottbob75]

Has anyone heard of the interwebs comic 'Conny Van Ehlsing, Monster Hunter' (http://www.webcomicsnation.com/jaehling/conny/series.php?view=archive&chapter=22467). It is like a very young Buffy at the age of six. Very good read.

[JasterIsFett]

I'm probably not gonna post samples from each, but my favorite artists would be...

My fave artists would include a few of BM's picks as well as:

should I be surprised that neither of you have Jim Lee, Alex Ross or Frank Quietly on your lists?

[Sharp-O]

should I be surprised that neither of you have Jim Lee, Alex Ross or Frank Quietly on your lists?

Jim Lee is an overpaid asian variant of Ed Benes.
Alex Ross I could take or leave, he's great but he delays books like a motherfucker
Frank Quietly I genuinely forgot about :eek:

[Sharp-O]

Is anyone reading/or ever read The Boys?

[JK]

I was playing with my boys this morning... wait... :eek:


(Sorry... the shot was there, I took it. Before Tom could...)

[ZBarclay]

Is anyone reading/or ever read The Boys?

Yes...the first trade was phenomenal...the second kept pace...haven't picked up the third yet.

[neon vomit]

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... I try not to rave about Blackest Night but... It's so good.

http://i26.tinypic.com/2cct9hd.jpg

[BallsMonkey]

What's sad about Blackest Night is that Aquaman and the Martian Manhunter are kicking more ass dead, than they have in over 10 years alive.

[cypher]

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... I try not to rave about Blackest Night but... It's so good.

http://i26.tinypic.com/2cct9hd.jpg

I'm really excited about this series; but I'm going to wait until they release a trade paperback. I like being able to read the whole story at once...

[beckpoppins]

this is one of those things that seems specially made for me.

http://finissimo.com.br/altadefinicao/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/timgunnmarvel.jpg

MAKE IT WORK, STARK!








.... where's andre?.....

[Sharp-O]

Blackest Night has been blowing my shit away and it's only up to the second issue. Thank god for Geoff Johns and Ivan Reis :D

[Aaron]

This scene still gives me chills.
I know we said it before about Whedon's run, but this made me fall in love with Cyclops in a way that years of X-men books could never do

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/ShadowBoxing01/CykeAstonishing08-pg19.jpg

*squeels*

[Sharp-O]

*squeels*

You fecking jessie. I will admit that scene looks pretty damn awesome, but one scene can't make up for 40 years of dickish-ness ;)

[JasterIsFett]

I've come to the conclusion that I do not like Golden Apple Comics.

- Every single one of the workers looked and treated at me with what I can only interpret as disdain. Every. Single. One.

- The patrons, though this is no fault of the establishment, were all pricks. Generally rude and had an air of pretentiousness.

- No bags or boards were provided upon checkout. A practice I have become used to from every other damn comic shop that I've been to.

- I just didn't like the layout of their comic rack.

I'll try Meltdown next week, see if I like that any better than my local shops.

[Sharp-O]

I've come to the conclusion that I do not like Golden Apple Comics.

- Every single one of the workers looked and treated at me with what I can only interpret as disdain. Every. Single. One.

- The patrons, though this is no fault of the establishment, were all pricks. Generally rude and had an air of pretentiousness.

- No bags or boards were provided upon checkout. A practice I have become used to from every other damn comic shop that I've been to.

- I just didn't like the layout of their comic rack.

I'll try Meltdown next week, see if I like that any better than my local shops.

It's people like that that give comic stores and us comic geeks a bad name. Fucking luddites. :mad:

[Sharp-O]

GOOD NEWS EVERYONE! Marvel is being bought by Disney! (http://www.newsarama.com/comics/090831-disney-acquire-marvel.html)

Well, I suppose that's bad news really cos Disney would make Marvel into more of a whore than it already is. X-Men Musical, anyone? ~We're all mutants together!~

I'm so glad to be a DC fan right now :P

[Shäne]

GOOD NEWS EVERYONE! Marvel is being bought by Disney! (http://www.newsarama.com/comics/090831-disney-acquire-marvel.html)

Well, I suppose that's bad news really cos Disney would make Marvel into more of a whore than it already is. X-Men Musical, anyone? ~We're all mutants together!~

I'm so glad to be a DC fan right now :P

*nerdsigh*