Nice One Zidane

[Psyche]

http://renjakucblog.com/zidaneheadbutt.gif






italy won =D

[acid_soda]

w00t!

[Threadkiller]

Zidane is a jackass.

[DarthMaulRat]

I figured out Italy won when I was driving home today and saw an old italian guy (had to be in his 60's/70's) hanging out of the sunroof of a car waving a giant Italian flag while speeding down a major highway. It was quite a sight.

[maniche]

This is an another head.

[freetoaster]

That's too bad. What a sad way to play in your final World Cup game.

[By-tor]

This is an another head.Any chance this doosh posted a pic of a tallywacker and got beaned with the Banstick?

[Threadkiller]

Any chance this doosh posted a pic of a tallywacker and got beaned with the Banstick?http://members.arstechnica.com/x/powermacman/Magic%208%20Ball.gif

[phit_demon]

Zidane is a jackass.
*Sigh*, yanks.

[Threadkiller]

It took me forever to figure out what you were talking about. I'm thinking to myself, "what the hell is he yanking on?" I guess as an American I'm too self-centered to remember that there are people in the world who refer to us as something other than 'Americans'.

That said, I am totally soccer (or football) ignorant so feel free to a'splain why my statement of something that seems obvious to me elicits a sigh. :)

[phit_demon]

That said, I am totally soccer (or football) ignorant so feel free to a'splain why my statement of something that seems obvious to me elicits a sigh. :)
Well, Zinedine Zidane was one of the greatest players of the game ever.
He's up there with Pele and Maradona, and for you to call him a jackass due to an admittedly stupid slip in his last game....well, hence the sigh.
It was a sad night for football.


EDIT: Italy so didn't deserve to win.

[Threadkiller]

I'd agree with all of that. But I still think he's a jackass for sticking that unforgettable blemish at the end of his career. Just like Madonna is a jackass for doing 'Swept Away'. Ohhhh, you said "Maradona", not Madonna. I'm not sure why he's a jackass but he probably is. ;)

I blame American sports announcers for my lack of soccer knowledge. It does seem like Italy was totally outplayed, at least in the second half and overtime. Is there some better way to finish these games rather than the anticlimactic penalty kicks?

[By-tor]

Is there some better way to finish these games rather than the anticlimactic penalty kicks?
http://davepics.com/Album/2002/07-28.RockEm-SockEm_Robots/tn/RockEm_SockEm_Homees.med.jpg (http://davepics.com/Album/2002/07-28.RockEm-SockEm_Robots/RockEm_SockEm_Homees.jpg)
GOOOOOAAAAALLLLLLL!!!!!!

[freetoaster]

I blame American sports announcers for my lack of soccer knowledge. It does seem like Italy was totally outplayed, and they're all douche bags anway.

Fuckin Italian Sports announcers!

[Robbo_the_Hood]

I hated seeing that, because after France got to the Round of 16, Zidane played lights-out soccer and he made his teammates better. And announcing his retirement whenever France should stop playing only added to the drama of the aged veteran trying to live one last moment of glory. It was such a great story. Then he landed terribly on his shoulder and was calling for a sub, and then came back and provided even more great imagery.

And then the stupidest thing I have ever seen in sports. In overtime, in the chamionship game, the best athlete on the pitch, the man that carried his team to the finals made the worst of mental errors.

And the guy still won the MVP for the tournament.

But congrats to Italy. My next door neighbor is from Sardinia, and while he said he isn't that into soccer anymore, I bet he's still happy as whatever apt Italian proverb.

[jjcourtright]

That was one of the most amazing things I've ever seen on live TV. Right up there with Todd Bertuzzi sucker-punching Steve Moore. Just incredible.

Sad, though. Going in, I had planned on rooting for Italy, partially because one of my friend's dads is from Italy, partially because of the way they gutted out the game against Germany to score twice in the last two minutes of the game. But they were completely outplayed by the French. The French won me over by being so dominant. Then they lose Henry and Zidane 15 minutes before PK time...sucks.

[Psyche]

Well, Zinedine Zidane was one of the greatest players of the game ever.
He's up there with Pele and Maradona, and for you to call him a jackass due to an admittedly stupid slip in his last game....well, hence the sigh.
It was a sad night for football.


EDIT: Italy so didn't deserve to win.




what about the 98 world cup when he stomped on the other players back?


he IS a jackass. no matter how well he plays. very unsportsmanlike of him

[jjcourtright]

Dirty terrorist? (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=373675&cc=5901)

[Robbo_the_Hood]

You know, the way Zidane was walking away and just stopped and turned and made a bee-line right towards the guy, I wouldn't be at all surprised if that were true. He had to have said something bad...like beyond "Yo Momma."

[Psyche]

it doesnt matter if words were said a bigger man would have walked it off =p

[Robbo_the_Hood]

You nor I are professional athletes, and I bet our jobs aren't under near as much scrutiny as playing in the World Cup Championship. And not to justify his actions, but I bet if I came to your job I could figure out something to make you forget where you were and come at me fists a-flyin'. And you might be totally justified in coming at me, but you still get fired for inappropriate conduct.

And everyone is like that. I'm a pretty stoic guy in most cases, but I have my buttons just as everyone else. I'm guessing dude just said the one thing that could get to him.

But he must be scum, according to you because being from Florida, I'm sure you've been watching those Real Madrid games pretty closely for the last five years.

Now, what's interesting is over his career he has 14 ejections over the course of his career. Now if this were baseball or gridiron football, that would be massive. Because of multiple yellow cards, it's easier to get thrown out of a soccer game, especially with all the diva diving.

I think the biggest testament has to be from all of the commentators and analysts that have followed his career who were also heartbroken to see Zidane lose his cool. As opposed to when Rooney got the boot for stepping on a guy's balls, and Rooney was referred to by everyone as a young thuggish dirty punk that needed to grow up.

But again, you being from Florida, and that much closer to Europe than I, well I can see why you're the authority on the character and motivations of a French athlete. I mean it's practically your back yard.

Now it seems that Zidane is the son of Arab immigrants to France, and given French attitudes towards its Arab population (culminating in riots of Watts-like proportions), if that terrorist comment is what was said then I shall defer to Rock on this one: I'm not saying he should have done it, but I understand.

[Psyche]

You nor I are professional athletes, and I bet our jobs aren't under near as much scrutiny as playing in the World Cup Championship. And not to justify his actions, but I bet if I came to your job I could figure out something to make you forget where you were and come at me fists a-flyin'. And you might be totally justified in coming at me, but you still get fired for inappropriate conduct.

And everyone is like that. I'm a pretty stoic guy in most cases, but I have my buttons just as everyone else. I'm guessing dude just said the one thing that could get to him.

But he must be scum, according to you because being from Florida, I'm sure you've been watching those Real Madrid games pretty closely for the last five years.

Now, what's interesting is over his career he has 14 ejections over the course of his career. Now if this were baseball or gridiron football, that would be massive. Because of multiple yellow cards, it's easier to get thrown out of a soccer game, especially with all the diva diving.

I think the biggest testament has to be from all of the commentators and analysts that have followed his career who were also heartbroken to see Zidane lose his cool. As opposed to when Rooney got the boot for stepping on a guy's balls, and Rooney was referred to by everyone as a young thuggish dirty punk that needed to grow up.

But again, you being from Florida, and that much closer to Europe than I, well I can see why you're the authority on the character and motivations of a French athlete. I mean it's practically your back yard.

Now it seems that Zidane is the son of Arab immigrants to France, and given French attitudes towards its Arab population (culminating in riots of Watts-like proportions), if that terrorist comment is what was said then I shall defer to Rock on this one: I'm not saying he should have done it, but I understand.



oh hey look condescending prig alert.

he has a record of violence at games. it was very unsportsmanlike for him to do that. if mata was saying what was claimed to be said he did exactly what the person wanted..got himself ejected from the game because he overreacted. thus not having him there for penalty kicks (which hey he's known for) lowering the morale of his team (b/c hey he's el capitan ) thus having them fuck up a penalty kick and losing the game


i never said he was scum, did i? i said he was a jackass. theres a difference. don't put words in my mouth please.


no not everyone is like that. no matter what is said to me i will not resort to brutish violence. i'd rather walk away a bigger person then stoop to there level or even lower. so i'd take your bet and win.





ps oh and i know all about playing soccer and what it's like. i used to play it in high school. i know theres a lot of shit talking. most people don't jump and attack the other person they just brush it off. i'm not saying it doesn't happen. i'm just saying there is a better way it could have been handled

[By-tor]

he did exactly what the person wanted..got himself ejected from the game because he overreacted. thus not having him there for penalty kicks (which hey he's known for) lowering the morale of his team (b/c hey he's el capitan ) thus having them fuck up a penalty kick and losing the game


i'm just saying there is a better way it could have been handledShe's got a pretty good point, there.

[Abby Normal]

I'll hafta agree with Psyche on this. It was a jackass thing to do. Pro sports players talk shit all day long, thats part of the game. Get into the other guys head. Its unfortunate that a guy who is considered one of the best in the game cant take someone (who denies it) talking shit to him.
Sent him home crying to his mama... "He called me a dirty terrorist". Waa.

[El Otro Pepper]

He IS a jackass.
His last World Cup Championship. His last game. The commander of the favourite team in the final. He can´t do that...
No doubt it, he screw an honorable retirement.

[Psyche]

He IS a jackass.
His last World Cup Championship. His last game. The commander of the favourite team in the final. He can´t do that...
No doubt it, he screw an honorable retirement.


when i read this i get the urge to say 'the only honorable thing left for him to do now is fall apon his sword and take the shame away from his house >X('

[jjcourtright]

You know, the way Zidane was walking away and just stopped and turned and made a bee-line right towards the guy, I wouldn't be at all surprised if that were true. He had to have said something bad...like beyond "Yo Momma." When it first happened, the wife and I guessed that he had said that we was going to kidnap his children and eat his wife. Zidane's wife was involved according to this story (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=373706&cc=5901):Materazzi, 32, told Gazetta dello Sport: 'I held his shirt for a few seconds only, then he turned to me and talked to me, jeering.



'He looked at me with a huge arrogance and said, 'If you really want my shirt I'll give it to you afterwards'. I replied with an insult, that's true.'


Materazzi has not elaborated on what he did say, but one report suggested he responded with: 'I'd rather take the shirt off your wife'.

Pretty funny in my opinion. It seems like it would only elicit a head butt if Zidane's wife happened to be dead.

[jjcourtright]

Materazzi's greatest hits. (http://mutoni.blogspot.com/2006/07/head-hits-man-in-chest.html) (Scroll past the video of Zidane's head butt)

[By-tor]

The guy's cleats should be deemed an dangerous weapon.

[Psyche]

if he said something he said something. that's what athletes do, talk trash to ilicit a response from the opposite team. don't feed into it and stoop to their level and do something just as bad and ruin the game for your team.

[phit_demon]

what about the 98 world cup when he stomped on the other players back?
he IS a jackass. no matter how well he plays. very unsportsmanlike of him

But again, you being from Florida, and that much closer to Europe than I, well I can see why you're the authority on the character and motivations of a French athlete. I mean it's practically your back yard.

What Robbo said.
I've watched Zidane play the most amazing football I've ever seen over the last decade, and for you to brush him off as a jackass when you probably had never heard of him before...well, it annoys me.

no not everyone is like that. i'd rather walk away a bigger person then stoop to there level or even lower.
If you truely believe that under no circumstances would you blow a fuse, then you're lying to yourself.

[smallbee]

I'm still depressed about the outcome of the match. I really wanted France to win and for Zidane to go out on top, and then he went and messed everything up.
Somehow "Italian team overcomes soccer scandal to win World Cup" doesn't have the right happy ending feel.

[ILovePapaSmurf]

http://break.com/index/zidane_head_butt_game.html

[Threadkiller]

I couldn't access Smurfy's link from work so I'm not sure if this is rehash.FOXSports.com's Jamie Trecker reports that French players told French media members that Materazzi used a racial slur which prompted the headbutt.
Materazzi is probably a jackass too. Perhaps the best way to get back at people who say things like that is to outplay them. Win the game first and then headbutt 'em in the parking lot afterwards.

[Psyche]

What Robbo said.
I've watched Zidane play the most amazing football I've ever seen over the last decade, and for you to brush him off as a jackass when you probably had never heard of him before...well, it annoys me.

i'm not brushing him off as a jackass. he has skill. he wouldn't have been at the world cup if he didn't. but thanks for assuming i had no idea who he is


If you truely believe that under no circumstances would you blow a fuse, then you're lying to yourself.


please don't assume to know how i respond to things. or assume you know me at all. you'll only end up looking stupid in the end

[Razorback]

Psyche is right on the money... enough said.

[Razorback]

Wait, I have one more thing to say:

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3277/zidanesupermove0am.gif

[BAMSS04]

Gotta go with psyche on this one , I mean 50% of sports is trash talking. It is part of the game...you try to get in the other teams head. I don't pretend to know about what the guy said, but I have had all kinds of things said to me on the field and I have never hit anyone for it. They are both assholes.


End of story.


Either way, no need to get into a fight over the French. Again...

Fuck the french.

[Matthew]

Either way, no need to get into a fight over the French. Again...

Fuck the french.

THANK YOU!

Part of playing any physical sport is the shit talking. Back in the college ball days, I would purposefully try to get the running backs so pissed off they could not concentrate. Sometimes it worked, fumble recovery for me!

[kmanv23]

I love how they're still talking about it too (the news). who cares? italy won cuz of that idiot.

Too the news, and to all the posters i love it
-You say "potato", I say "shut the hell up"--

[phit_demon]

please don't assume to know how i respond to things. or assume you know me at all. you'll only end up looking stupid in the end
I'm not making an assumption about you per say, but everyone has a breaking point. You're no different.

[By-tor]

I'm not making an assumption about you per say, but everyone has a breaking point. You're no different.Sorry, kid, but not on the field of play. I may be too old-school on this matter, but no chance in hell I'd ever go after somebody that talked shit to me on the field. I'd get his ass during play(hopefully without getting caught), but nothing as blatant as that ignorant head-butt. I've got a temper that comes from some of my descendants from your home country, but I'll be damned if somebody's smart-ass mouth is going to be enough to jeopardize a game I'm playing. Now, talk shit about me, or mine, off the field, and the story might change.

[phit_demon]

Now, talk shit about me, or mine, off the field, and the story might change.
And understandably so, so surely you can see how someone else who might not have the same ability to bite his tongue might see red if similar insults were thrown his way.

Zidane actually explained (http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/sports/soccer/news/20060713p2a00m0sp009000c.html) why he did it on French TV today, and I don't know if I would have reacted differently in that situation.
If that makes me a lesser individual, so be it.

[By-tor]

and I don't know if I would have reacted differently in that situation.
If that makes me a lesser individual, so be it.That's just it, brother. As an individual, you're fine for going off. It only affects you. But, when your on a team, you've got to look towards the greater good. I totally agree that most everyone has a breaking point, but you've got to see from you opponents view. If there's anything they can say to get one of the best players in the world off the field with some bull-shit trash talk, that very few will ever hear, it's just a damn good strategy. That being said, if any of the boys I coached every talked trash,and I heard it, they were picking splinters outta their ass for part of the game.

[phit_demon]

As an individual, you're fine for going off. It only affects you. But, when your on a team, you've got to look towards the greater good.
Fair point.
I just hate to hear the greatest player for a generation being referred to as a "jackass" over one incident, by individuals who have not watched him play week in, week out.
He's human, he fucked up, and I was just trying to illustrate that everyone has the potential to do the same.

[By-tor]

everyone has the potential to do the same.Concurred.

[phit_demon]

Here's (http://youtube.com/watch?v=9b7Yk7tpY64&mode=related&search=zidane) a little bit of Zizou magic to remind people of what he could do on his good days...

[Aaron]

EDIT: Italy so didn't deserve to win.
You just have a hard-on for Henry
Va-va-voom my ass

[Psyche]

Fair point.
I just hate to hear the greatest player for a generation being referred to as a "jackass" over one incident, by individuals who have not watched him play week in, week out.
He's human, he fucked up, and I was just trying to illustrate that everyone has the potential to do the same.


you can be the greatest player in the world and still be a jackass.

[phit_demon]

You just have a hard-on for Henry
Va-va-voom my ass

Hey, hey, hey!!
Don't bring The Beautiful Man™ into this, he just wants to play ballet football, and I just want to watch him.
So sush!

http://www.arsenal.com/Images/h/henry_0506mancity.jpg

[Razorback]

you can be the greatest player in the world and still be a jackass.

And the argument winner is.... Psyche! Yeah! Okay, this thread is over. Everyone move along. No one may post here... at least not, THE IRISH!

Mwuahahahah!! :p

[Psyche]

And the argument winner is.... Psyche! Yeah! Okay, this thread is over. Everyone move along. No one may post here... at least not, THE IRISH!

Mwuahahahah!! :p


do i get a prize? =D

[phit_demon]

And the argument winner is.... Psyche! Yeah! Okay, this thread is over. Everyone move along. No one may post here... at least not, THE IRISH!

Mwuahahahah!! :p
Jeez, if you want me just say so. All this playground teasing shit is getting old.
Anyway, I thought you were straight?

http://www.yourneighborhoodnews.com/bow-times/2005/12/images/29-girls-kiss-snowman-280.jpg

[BAMSS04]

If you like the guy I'm sure he is not a complete asshole...

However, that being said, HE'S FRENCH so he is always going to be an asshole in my book.

[Razorback]

Jeez, if you want me just say so. All this playground teasing shit is getting old.
Anyway, I thought you were straight?

Don't flatter yourself. If I was gay, I am not sure I would slum it up by going for you. MAYBE if I was really drunk. I mean, REALLY drunk.

Or if I was dead and you violated my corpse.

[phit_demon]

Or if I was dead and you violated my corpse.
That would explain the flowers I got with this picture attached:

http://guy-sports.com/fun_pictures/snowman_over.jpg

[El Otro Pepper]

The love is in the air...

[phit_demon]

HE'S FRENCH so he is always going to be an asshole in my book.
I like him despite being a surrender-monkey. :D

[Razorback]

That would explain the flowers I got with this picture attached

Well, I know you are hard up so I figured that once I am dead you can have your way with my corpse. After all, I know how bad you need it. Hell, everyone does.

I mean, come on!

[phit_demon]

I mean, come on!
http://images.southparkstudios.com/media/images/503/ep_503_09.gif
How apt.

[Razorback]

How apt.

Someone get this little troll a tissue. I think the Irish in him is shining through again.

TIMMAH!

[phit_demon]

I think the Irish in him is shining through again.
Crap, did my pants split again?!

[Razorback]

Crap, did my pants split again?!

Mmmm... maybe I should be gay.

[phit_demon]

Mmmm... maybe I should be gay.
If that is your destiny...

[Psyche]

Mmmm... maybe I should be gay.


sooooooooooooooooooooo wrong.



i wouldn't let you be gay >X(

[By-tor]

This is way better than jk's and Wing's "tit for tat". Humor is involved. Wait.. I said tit.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a294/Jenheartu254/boobieswoohooanim9dy.gif

[phit_demon]

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a294/Jenheartu254/boobieswoohooanim9dy.gif
Okay, so this ain't the thing to be focusing on, but does his tee say "Mario Van Peebles"?
Why in the name of all that is good would anyone wear that?!!

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000063K0Q.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V1056709256_.jpg http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005LO4I.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B00005QAP3.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg


Pattern, anyone?

[phit_demon]

Oh, and in case I forget:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000031EGU.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

[phit_demon]

Christ, the guy has like one pose...

http://www.999see.com/imgfilm/44%20Minutes.jpg

[Psyche]

it's like sex


if you find a position you like/are good at you stick with it

[Zens7s]

Christ, the guy has like one pose...

http://www.999see.com/imgfilm/44%20Minutes.jpg
44 min? Marketed by a man. It really only lasts 22 min. counting the "That was amazing baby." and the snoring.

[Razorback]

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/9463/zicastro3wn.gif

http://content.ytmnd.com/content/e/4/b/e4b3e85c19b55b41b856a2644f63590f.gif