Guilty Pleasures...

[acid_soda]

I got this from the ABS forums...
What artist/song/album/ect. do not like to admit liking?

I'll start...
Tom Petty...You Don't Know How It Feels...
[not a bad artist, i know, but i don't listen to NOT country]

[FanGirl]

*starts twitching* Country? Country? On what planet is Tom Petty considered country?

[jjcourtright]

Mariah Carey

[Mighty Wingman]

I got this from the ABS forums...
What artist/song/album/ect. do not like to admit liking?

I'll start...
Tom Petty...You Don't Know How It Feels...
[not a bad artist, i know, but i don't listen to country]

Bad acid ! Bad! bad!
Tom Petty is NOT country ! Now go put your nose in the corner and think about what you've done.

Mariah Carey
I can't believe I consider you a friend.

[Omaru]

Joss Stone

[Dave]

Tom Petty is not country!!!!!!!!!! You young kids, i swear.

My guilty pleasure is Kelly Clarkson, i haven't stooped so low as to purchase any of her products, but the station doesn't get changed when one of her songs come on.

[FanGirl]

My guilty pleasure is Kelly Clarkson, i haven't stooped so low as to purchase any of her products, but the station doesn't get changed when one of her songs come on.

Oh, I don't listen to Kelly because I'm not into Hip Hop/Rap. That is how wrong it is to put Petty in country. Seriously.

Hmm...guilty pleasures. I guess "Toxic" by Britney and that is only because Dr. Who made me like the song. Aside from that, I'm not embarassed by anything I listen to.

[acid_soda]

ok i edited the post... because tom petty is NOT country

[FanGirl]

You need to go pick up his greatest hits right now, young man, as an act of contrition for saying such things. And appreciate the balls on Petty for putting one of his new songs (at the time), Mary Jane's Last Dance, on a greatest hits album and realizing it was the right move.

[Mighty Wingman]

I feel summer creepin' in , and I'm tired o' this town again...

[jjcourtright]

You need to go pick up his greatest hits right now, young man, as an act of contrition for saying such things. And appreciate the balls on Petty for putting one of his new songs (at the time), Mary Jane's Last Dance, on a greatest hits album and realizing it was the right move. Ah, everybody does that. Aerosmith's Big Ones had two new songs, Walk on Water and Blind Man. Chili Peppers put Fortune Faded on Greatest Hits. I'm sure that there are other examples, but I'm not much of a greatest hits type of guy.

Like Dave, I have never bought a Mariah Carey album, but the radio won't get changed if she's on. You guys have to admit that you're down with Fantasy, Honey, Heartbreaker, One Sweet Day,...

[Robbo_the_Hood]

Ah, everybody does that. Aerosmith's Big Ones had two new songs, Walk on Water and Blind Man. Chili Peppers put Fortune Faded on Greatest Hits. I'm sure that there are other examples, but I'm not much of a greatest hits type of guy.

One reason they do that is to get the die hards that have all the other albums to waste their money on one song. Another reason they do that is so they can promote an album by said artist with a new single, so people will understand that an artist has a new product out, even if it's just a compilation album (they really think we're idiots). The artist also gets to say that they completed a requirement of their contract with another album.

I'm generally against greatest hits albums as well, as it's really just a compilation of the artists singles thrown together by the label, and doesn't have any flow to the record. Most fans of a worthwhile artist will say that someone's best songs weren't singles. The only time I buy a greatest hits album is if I exhaust myself searching for anything by an artist and it's the only thing I can find.

[foghorn leghorn]

I can't really think of any when it comes to music. I either like it or I don't.If I had to choose one I guess it would have to be something by Abba.

[Matthew]

You are no longer allowed to post anything about music. First 'Pink Houses' and now this.

Your taste in music is likened to Rosanne's taste in Luine Cuisine.

[foghorn leghorn]

You are no longer allowed to post anything about music. First 'Pink Houses' and now this.
Your taste in music is likened to Rosanne's taste in Luine Cuisine.

Well your taste in spelling is like your taste in music....wrong.If you would bother to look at the title of the thread its called Guilty Pleasures.Its something that I would listen to that not everybody finds appealing.I'm sure your extent of guilty pleasure in music would be The Archies singing Sugar, Sugar.If your gonna try to insult my taste in music find out what kind of music I listen to before you try to insult it.I was picking a song that the head of the conservative party wanted to use in there campaign in the 80's but maybe you were too oblivious then.I have forgotten more about music that you could possibly know and for the record its not the post count that is impressive it what you post.

[Zens7s]

Well your taste in spelling is like your taste in music....wrong.If you would bother to look at the title of the thread its called Guilty Pleasures.Its something that I would listen to that not everybody finds appealing.I'm sure your extent of guilty pleasure in music would be The Archies singing Sugar, Sugar.If your gonna try to insult my taste in music find out what kind of music I listen to before you try to insult it.I was picking a song that the head of the conservative party wanted to use in there campaign in the 80's but maybe you were too oblivious then.I have forgotten more about music that you could possibly know and for the record its not the post count that is impressive it what you post.
Don't mind him. He must offend someone everyday or he can't get out of bed. ;)

I have LOTS of guilty pleasures in music:
Seperate Ways - Journey
Since You've Been Gone - Kelly Clarkson
Still In Love With You - Brooks and Dunn
In These Arms - Bon Jovi

There are more but I can't think of them at the moment.

[BizarroPunisher]

I'm generally against greatest hits albums as well, as it's really just a compilation of the artists singles thrown together by the label, and doesn't have any flow to the record. Most fans of a worthwhile artist will say that someone's best songs weren't singles. The only time I buy a greatest hits album is if I exhaust myself searching for anything by an artist and it's the only thing I can find.

I don't know, Rob Zombie's greatest hits album (Past, Present, and Future) was pretty awesome. But then again, Ozzy's newer greatest hits album (The Ozzman Cometh) lacked most of his greatest songs. I guess it works both ways, but greatest hits albums aren't always the worst. (By the way, does the Kiss Box Set count as a greatest hits cd/set?)

Anyway, for me the list is...
Bon Jovi- Bad Medicine
Ren & Stimpy's Crock O' Christmas CD
The Killers Hot Fuss CD
Boy Hits Car CD
Paul Simon- You Can Call Me Al

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000AVBDS.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg Great CD. Buy it now for the low, low price of your soul.

[ratm1966]

I don't have a guilty pleasure when it comes to music. Everyone that counts already knows I have a very ecclectic taste in music and listen to everything from Classical/Opera to Country to Heavy Metal. Really, just about anything with the exception of Polka and most of today's gangster rap.

I know I can find at least one person out there who would say they like at least one of my cd's...and do this for all of them. Yes, even my Barry manilow CD.

[Threadkiller]

I'm pretty much over the "guilt" thing but I will admit to owning an Ace of Base CD. I saw the sign and it opened up my mind. That's soooo deep.

[Zens7s]

I don't have a guilty pleasure when it comes to music. Everyone that counts already knows I have a very ecclectic taste in music and listen to everything from Classical/Opera to Country to Heavy Metal. Really, just about anything with the exception of Polka and most of today's gangster rap.

I know I can find at least one person out there who would say they like at least one of my cd's...and do this for all of them. Yes, even my Barry manilow CD.
Wait! I forgot a guilty pleasure of both Ryall and myself: "Ready to Take A Chance Again" by Barry Manilow. Plus it reminds me of Foul Play.

I will admit to knowing a few polkas, but look where I grew up! Show me a wedding that doesn't have Roll Out the Barrell and I get confused.

[jjcourtright]

I'm pretty much over the "guilt" thing but I will admit to owning an Ace of Base CD. I saw the sign and it opened up my mind. That's soooo deep. In high school, a buddy and I used to date girls in the town north of the Springs. About 20 minutes away. Somehow we got in the habit of listening to Ace of Base everytime on the drive up there...while singing.

Sometimes I'm really amazed that I'm not gay...

[ratm1966]

Sometimes I'm really amazed that I'm not gay...
Well....just kidding. You left the door open for comments and when that happens, I can't resist walking through it.

[Matthew]

I have forgotten more about music that you could possibly know
Is this due to booze, drugs, or alzheimers?

[Matthew]

I guess my guilty pleasure WAS Dead or Alive "You Spin Me" SO, after mourning over my recent ELP Collector loss, I found the video.... Why did I like this 20 years ago? Please kill me.

[vickie69er]

my guilty pleasure at the moment is that paris hilton song, stars are blind, im sure they change her voice with computers and shit, but its a good song,
SHHHHH dont tell anyone (hangs head in complete and utter shame)

[PftLBritt]

Mine has been the last CD by Nickelback. Ughh, it pains me greatly just to type that last sentence.

[jjcourtright]

I can never take your advice again.

Nickelback?

Really?

I'm disappointed in you.

[ozchick]

Hey, maybe Britt just likes his pants around his feet. :)

[PftLBritt]

I can never take your advice again.

Nickelback?

Really?

I'm disappointed in you.
Ouch. That admission was something that took me a long time to work up the courage to admit. So, please do not hold me accountable for some of my cheesy choices in the musical arena. and, you ain't the first not will you be the last to be disappointed by me.

And Ozchick, there are occasions where I do enjoy my pants around my feet but since I'm married with kids, those are far and few between.

[acid_soda]

I am listenting to Zebrahead right now...

...I dont think anyone has heard of them but they are much different than Tool or Hinder.

[Threadkiller]

Nothing to see here. Move along. Move along.

http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/Officer_Barbrady_figure.jpg

[Robbo_the_Hood]

Join us, for another installment of As the List Grows.

[acid_soda]

edit..he's off...i think i made my point.

[JK]

Join us, for another installment of As the List Grows.

Damn, I missed it... shoulda bought a Tivo...

[Sheriff]

Mine has been the last CD by Nickelback. Ughh, it pains me greatly just to type that last sentence.

OK, I had quite the scathing reply to you dissing the Arcade Fire, but decided against posting it due to my open mindedness for other people’s music. But now you have totally stepped over any sort of line of decency. That type of music…ugh… I am so upset I have to resort to telling a joke to get my point across…

Q: What has 10,000 legs and no pubic hair?

A: The front row to a Nickelback concert.

In other words, you are a 12 year old girl (don’t worry, it is just buried deep down, deep in you psyche). You will only earn back your old esteemed self by posting pictures of the broken, micro-waved, and slightly tooth-marked remains of that CD in the ‘Pics’ thread (do it for the kids sake).

Now go and listen to ‘Toxic’ by Brittney, ‘Come Into My World’ by Kylie Minogue, and ‘Torn’ by Natalie Imbruglia. Or better yet download the videos and reclaim your 12 year old boyhood while you still can (you sissy).

[Aaron]

Joss Stone
do NOT feel ashamed my friend, the insleeve pictures would be worth the price of the cd alone...
http://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/8705/1d/images.tickets.com/images/privatelabel/joss_stone_347x397.jpg

[Robbo_the_Hood]

do NOT feel ashamed my friend, the insleeve pictures would be worth the price of the cd alone...
That's the last thing one should consider when purchasing an album of songs.

[Aaron]

That's the last thing one should consider when purchasing an album of songs.
She can sing too?!?

[FanGirl]

Do not under any circumstance be tempted to watch or Tivo Entertainment Weekly's special on Guilty Pleasures. It was one of the worst documentaris I have ever seen. They must have had a small budget because they couldn't get clips for more than a handful of movies. They interviewed random people who made no sense. French Stewart was unfunny as the host. Coming from a documentary background, this show caused physical pain to watch. Just terrible. Terrible I say!

[acid_soda]

I started listening to freezepop - super-sprøde.

Techno for the win.

[JK]

pssst... hey, you there... the lurker trolling this thread...

Yeah! You! In the pee-jays...

You do realize this thread has nothing to with farm animals, right?

[Czaple]

http://www.lostmtnclay.com/images/products/pirate/jug-rum-two-sizes-01-s.jpg

[Thinman]

Pretty much any movie with John Cusack is a guilty pleasure for me. It seems to me like he is one of the few actors who only wants to be in movies that have good stories.
http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Profiles/20060929/244.cusack.john.092706.jpg

[Aaron]

You do realise you're in the music forum right?
I don't think he can sing

[DrMacabre]

ha ha! now if he was in a musical it would be okay.. Anyway, I have to say my guilty pleasure is that sometimes I enjoy listening to Mariah Carey.

[Jason_Brown]

You do realise you're in the music forum right?
I don't think he can sing
Maybe not, but his video production work for The Swanky Modes is legendary.

[phit_demon]

his video production work for The Swanky Modes is legendary.
You betcher bottom dollar it is.

[Thinman]

You do realise you're in the music forum right?
I don't think he can sing
in High Fidelity he's kinda like a music guru, so there :p

[Robbo_the_Hood]

You do realise you're in the music forum right?
I don't think he can sing
He's actually not allowed to post in my forum, so he gets his shots in when he can.

[ratm1966]

ha ha! now if he was in a musical it would be okay.. Anyway, I have to say my guilty pleasure is that sometimes I enjoy listening to Mariah Carey.
As much as I hammer on her movie and it's suckiness, I am afraid to say this, but I actually liked her version of "Bringing on the Heartache".

Oh....oh...you can all just kiss my ass. Sitting all smug at your computer thinking to yourself that I finally lost what was left of my sanity. At least I don't listen to Barry Manilow. Well, not in the past 4 weeks anyways.

[karmattack]

I'm a music snob but...

I listen to a lot of metal with cookie monster vocals. It's the sole reason I don't put my iPod on "shuffle" if I play it at parties. Half the time, I'd get embarassed and make excuses if The Roots or The Mars Volta got followed up by The Dillinger Escape Plan, and they're not even really metal...plus they have indie credibility. Most of the stuff I can act elitist and justify, like Gojira, Opeth, Mastodon, and Meshuggah. It's easy to compare the last three Meshuggah albums to Miles Davis albums like "Bitches Brew" and "Live Evil" theoretically. But I'm just plain slumming it with Cannibal Corpse, and I can't help it. That one's the true guilty pleasure. Their music is so silly, and brutal, and virtuosic. It's like watching Dawn of the Dead movies with my ears.

[Threadkiller]

3 questions for the elitists.

1. I've been listening to Paramore. Is the jury still out on that or has it been declared either "cool" or "lame" yet?

2. Is music on Radio Disney lame because it's on Radio Disney or was it lame first and then went to Radio Disney?

3. If you have a guilty pleasure, can you pretend you are listening to it in an ironic way in order to make it cool?

[Jason_Brown]

It's easy to compare the last three Meshuggah albums to Miles Davis albums like "Bitches Brew" and "Live Evil" theoretically.
Having just spent a few minutes online sampling those Meshuggah albums, I've gotta say I'm not hearing it. Please explain.

[DarthMaulRat]

3 questions for the elitists.

1. I've been listening to Paramore. Is the jury still out on that or has it been declared either "cool" or "lame" yet?
Ever since 2000 or so, any artist to be featured or even briefly mentioned on MTV is pretty much damned. Granted, there's something hot about punk rock chicks, but in my opinion that band sounds no different than many of the other novelty female fronted punk rock acts that flourished in the mid 90's. Still, what music you enjoy is entirely up to you. I think the key to having good musical taste is to give everything a chance. The popular stuff isn't necessarily bad, but if its all you take in, you're missing the bigger picture.

2. Is music on Radio Disney lame because it's on Radio Disney or was it lame first and then went to Radio Disney?
It goes both ways. Sometimes a musician has no balls and records something so safe and unremarkable that Disney just has to get the rights to it. And sometimes Disney genetically engineers sterile teenagers who write songs about ice cream and summer as a way of coping with their labratory upbringing (You know them as the A-Teens).

3. If you have a guilty pleasure, can you pretend you are listening to it in an ironic way in order to make it cool?
That pretty much sums up the 80's. It's not a bad thing though. The ironic reaction to disco and synth pop spawned bands like Devo and Talking Heads. Nirvana was an ironic take on heavy metal. Even the Doors constructed their music as overdone big band numbers (when the songs weren't about drugs, anyway).

[karmattack]

Having just spent a few minutes online sampling those Meshuggah albums, I've gotta say I'm not hearing it. Please explain.
You asked for it! I've uploaded some samples of Meshuggah's music so I can reference them specifically later. For the sake of clarity, I focused on parts without vocals. The file is here:
http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f=638d4611f19db8f15f9eba68eeddbe49

I should have put more emphasis on "theoretically," and less emphasis on "easy." It's more about comparing the artists, and what they were doing with music on the albums I mentioned than comparing the music on said albums. Superficially, I had the same reaction listening to "Live Evil" and "Bitches Brew" that I did when I first listened to "I" or "Catch-33" by Meshuggah. I had no effing idea what was going on -- it barely even sounded like music to me. In both cases, the artists pushed so far ahead of what was previously established in their respective genre that it was hard to process until 2nd, 4th, or 10th time through. They're both experimental pioneers and an inspiration to their peers, but in Meshuggah's case, the peers are bands like The Deftones, Tool, Metallica, and Dillinger Escape Plan.

That's not to say there's no connection between Miles' albums I mentioned and Meshuggah's. I personally hear it, especially in some of Meshuggah's quieter, discordant moments ("pt1.mp3"). Then there's improvisation, which Meshuggah's lead guitarist does most every time he solos. More than anything, Meshuggah have a jazz "feel" because of their use of polymetrics, usually layering odd time signatures on their guitars and the kick drums with a 4/4 time on the hi-hat and snare ("pt2.mp3"). Combine that with the generally sparse use of hooks or a chorus, and it gives their music that flowing, complicated quality that jazz and even Miles' music has. But since practically every piece of rhythm and harmony is extremely planned and choreographed, it can't be considered any kind of jazz.

And here's why I think Meshuggah have accomplished something similar to what Miles did with "Live Evil and "Bitches Brew" with their most recent albums: With "I," (technically an EP) there is almost a complete absence of any repeated patterns. It's a single track, 21 minute song composed of about 14 interpretable sections......but next to no pattern to the riffs, if you can call them that ("pt3.mp3"). Patterns are such an integral part of most metal, that it could be a part of the genre's definition. Then with "Catch-33," they reigned in the better ideas of "I" and made a 47 minute, single-song, 13-track album. C33 is friendlier and more accessible because it has the patterns and riffs, and even some identifiable, stand-alone songs. Instead, they experimented with textures and themes. In a sense, it could be the "Wish You Were Here" of extreme metal. If you listen to "pt4.mp3," it's an example of a couple of the themes. It's a four-part sample and this time I added a beep between each part for emphasis. The sample is set up like this:
-part 1 fades in and cuts to the first theme (Track 9's breakdown)
-part 2 fades into the end of Track 10 which is the second theme (layerd with the lyrics "All bets off I plunge only to find that self is shed")
-part 3 second theme
-part 4 second theme, which is followed the song's ending...a reference of the first theme.

It's kind of tiring to listen to, which brings me to my last point. As far as "Live Evil," "Bitches Brew," "I," and "Catch-33," there is so much going on all the time that it's easy to get worn out and overwhelmed. I can only take it in small doses every so often.

And that's all I got to say about thayut.

[Sheriff]

3 questions for the elitists.

1. I've been listening to Paramore. Is the jury still out on that or has it been declared either "cool" or "lame" yet?

2. Is music on Radio Disney lame because it's on Radio Disney or was it lame first and then went to Radio Disney?

3. If you have a guilty pleasure, can you pretend you are listening to it in an ironic way in order to make it cool?

I don't think my palate is refined enough to be considered elitist but I have posted about Paramore. (http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/forums/showpost.php?p=168923&postcount=64) Now that I'm not hearing it every day it might be tolerable. I think I was having a knee jerk reaction, like having cotton-candy for every meal, I was starting to hate it.
As for number 3, I pretend that I am dancing to it, either Elaine from Seinfeld or Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack - both remarkably the same ;)

[phit_demon]

That pretty much sums up the 80's.
*ahem*

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3/phitdemon/salfordladsclub_smiths.jpg

No irony, just awesomesauce™.

[Thinman]

DOKKEN FUCKING ROCKS!!!
http://www.vinylzart.com/images/AlbumCovers-Dokken-UnderLockandKey(1985).jpg

[Sheriff]

I had a whole response typed out, but I realized I need to include music clips. It'll take a little bit.

*sits on hands to keep from fidgeting*

[ratm1966]

That pretty much sums up the 80's.
Dude, that is so not cool. I loved the music of the 80s. Well, most of it anyways.

[DarthMaulRat]

Dude, that is so not cool. I loved the music of the 80s. Well, most of it anyways.
Hey, that's no slant, I love a lot of 80's music. But you have to admit that a whole heap of that era is guilty pleasures. Pantera, Tears for Fears, The Dickies, etc., they're all great bands but its not something you're going to break out at a party (although I would totally go to a party with that music).

[ratm1966]

I play that shit at work at least twice a week. I am the shop chief, so I will periodically walk in and say...It is 80s day...and then load about 9 hours of 80s mp3s into a media player playlist and let it go all day long.

Yes, I even play stuff from groups like Taco, Tears for Fears, A Flock of Seagulls, etc etc.

[karmattack]

My thesis is on the previous page...

[Jason_Brown]

Huge essay.
Yikes! Thanks for the lengthy response.

[karmattack]

Yikes! Thanks for the lengthy response.Yeah, I kind of went off. It's not something I get to talk about very often. The sad part is, I realized I could have pretty much said the same thing in one sentence.

[By-tor]

You asked for it! I've uploaded some samples of Meshuggah's music so I can reference them specifically later. For the sake of clarity, I focused on parts without vocals. The file is here:
http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f=638d4611f19db8f15f9eba68eeddbe49

I should have put more emphasis on "theoretically," and less emphasis on "easy." It's more about comparing the artists, and what they were doing with music on the albums I mentioned than comparing the music on said albums. Superficially, I had the same reaction listening to "Live Evil" and "Bitches Brew" that I did when I first listened to "I" or "Catch-33" by Meshuggah. I had no effing idea what was going on -- it barely even sounded like music to me. In both cases, the artists pushed so far ahead of what was previously established in their respective genre that it was hard to process until 2nd, 4th, or 10th time through. They're both experimental pioneers and an inspiration to their peers, but in Meshuggah's case, the peers are bands like The Deftones, Tool, Metallica, and Dillinger Escape Plan.

That's not to say there's no connection between Miles' albums I mentioned and Meshuggah's. I personally hear it, especially in some of Meshuggah's quieter, discordant moments ("pt1.mp3"). Then there's improvisation, which Meshuggah's lead guitarist does most every time he solos. More than anything, Meshuggah have a jazz "feel" because of their use of polymetrics, usually layering odd time signatures on their guitars and the kick drums with a 4/4 time on the hi-hat and snare ("pt2.mp3"). Combine that with the generally sparse use of hooks or a chorus, and it gives their music that flowing, complicated quality that jazz and even Miles' music has. But since practically every piece of rhythm and harmony is extremely planned and choreographed, it can't be considered any kind of jazz.

And here's why I think Meshuggah have accomplished something similar to what Miles did with "Live Evil and "Bitches Brew" with their most recent albums: With "I," (technically an EP) there is almost a complete absence of any repeated patterns. It's a single track, 21 minute song composed of about 14 interpretable sections......but next to no pattern to the riffs, if you can call them that ("pt3.mp3"). Patterns are such an integral part of most metal, that it could be a part of the genre's definition. Then with "Catch-33," they reigned in the better ideas of "I" and made a 47 minute, single-song, 13-track album. C33 is friendlier and more accessible because it has the patterns and riffs, and even some identifiable, stand-alone songs. Instead, they experimented with textures and themes. In a sense, it could be the "Wish You Were Here" of extreme metal. If you listen to "pt4.mp3," it's an example of a couple of the themes. It's a four-part sample and this time I added a beep between each part for emphasis. The sample is set up like this:
-part 1 fades in and cuts to the first theme (Track 9's breakdown)
-part 2 fades into the end of Track 10 which is the second theme (layerd with the lyrics "All bets off I plunge only to find that self is shed")
-part 3 second theme
-part 4 second theme, which is followed the song's ending...a reference of the first theme.

It's kind of tiring to listen to, which brings me to my last point. As far as "Live Evil," "Bitches Brew," "I," and "Catch-33," there is so much going on all the time that it's easy to get worn out and overwhelmed. I can only take it in small doses every so often.

And that's all I got to say about thayut.I play bass. It's only four strings. It makes life easier. ;)

[phit_demon]

I love Miles Davis.

Thanks to my most metal-loving friend, I've been introduced to Messugah. I can see no connection. However, the fact that you do makes me more hot for you than I ever thought possible.

Shine on you sexy diamond! :D

[Jason_Brown]

Amazon had the download of Meshuggah's "I" EP on sale for 99 cents, so I snatched it up, out of curiosity. I really like it, but it has fuck-all to do with jazz. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I think I'll pick up "Catch-33" next chance I get.:)