Flight 93

[Zens7s]

I was browsing the Apple Quicktime trailers and came upon one for the new movie about September 11th called "Flight 93" that comes out in April. Even know I get the chills thinking about it and wonder if I will really want to see it, or if the movie could possibly come across as not capitalizing on the incident.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/flight93/med.html

Thoughts? Happy like I am that Jerry Bruckheimer isn't directing it?

[ILovePapaSmurf]

You know, I figured they would make a movie out of the 9/11 incidents, and it is a little upsetting. They are basically making a profit off people who died in a very tragic and that isn't at all right.

But then again, it shares a story... so, I don't know.

[Zens7s]

You know, I figured they would make a movie out of the 9/11 incidents, and it is a little upsetting. They are basically making a profit off people who died in a very tragic and that isn't at all right.

But then again, it shares a story... so, I don't know.
I go either way also. On one side it could be exploitive, but then everything that is sold about Sept. 11th is, even if it's for a good purpose. Also it helps to remind people what it felt like back then.

[Dave]

i guess it just depends on how they handle it. If it's tasteful i guess it will be alright. If John McClane is suddenly on the plane, i think i'll have some problems.

But then we've already had two scary plane films already this year. Redeye and Flightplan or something....

[Aaron]

You know, I figured they would make a movie out of the 9/11 incidents, and it is a little upsetting. They are basically making a profit off people who died in a very tragic and that isn't at all right.
Did anyone kick up a fuss when they made the first world war 2 movie?

[ILovePapaSmurf]

I am not kicking up a fuss. I'm just expressing my opinion.

[Aaron]

I am not kicking up a fuss. I'm just expressing my opinion.
And I wasnt criticising
I was genuinely asking a general question

[BAMSS04]

It is a bite early, I mean it has not even been five years.


I'll have to see more, before I decide if I will pay for it.

I still get tears thinking about those people.

[mrndevildog]

it is just nuts that they would make this movie so soon from 9/11, it sickens me that they would do this :mad:

[JK]

it is just nuts that they would make this movie so soon from 9/11, it sickens me that they would do this :mad:

It's been five years... The first Pearl Harbor movies came almost immediately... Oh, that's right- you don't know about Pearl...

April 1942 "Secret Agent of Japan"... four months
1943... "December 7th, 1941" starring John Ford... less than two years.

How long do we have to wait? Ten years? Twenty? By then people will have forgotten the feelings they had that day, by then they would have forgotten why the war on terrorism had to be fought... Oh yeah, most people already have.

[Aaron]

By then people will have forgotten the feelings they had that day, by then they would have forgotten why the war on terrorism had to be fought... Oh yeah, most people already have.
Oh, I greatly understand why they should have hunted down the man responsible, Osama Bin Laden
I'm just still waiting for them to do so :(

[GreenRoom]

god dammit. I am so sick of all this media and movies and whatever about 911. i know and agree that is was extremely horrible and we should as remeber what we lost but people are just trying to make money of it now.

[mrndevildog]

It's been five years... The first Pearl Harbor movies came almost immediately... Oh, that's right- you don't know about Pearl...

April 1942 "Secret Agent of Japan"... four months
1943... "December 7th, 1941" starring John Ford... less than two years.

How long do we have to wait? Ten years? Twenty? By then people will have forgotten the feelings they had that day, by then they would have forgotten why the war on terrorism had to be fought... Oh yeah, most people already have.
listen A-hole my brother is a marine and is fighting in Iraq right now he is serving his second tour. Dont talk to me about the war on terrorism, and plus i know almost everything there is to know about WW2 :mad:

[FanGirl]

But your brother is fighting for the right for him to say whatever he wants.

You really don't want to get into a war over history with me. You will lose...badly. Don't believe me. You might want to search the board and see who I used to work for.

[JK]

listen A-hole my brother is a marine and is fighting in Iraq right now he is serving his second tour. Dont talk to me about the war on terrorism, and plus i know almost everything there is to know about WW2 :mad:

Don't resort to name calling. I gave up three years, three months, eleven days, and my left knee cap for my country. I have earned the right to express my feelings on any damn subject I choose. Your brother is giving up his time for his country- including you and me- so we can express our opinions. If you want to shut out all other opinions and silence anyone who might offend whatever sensibilties you claim to have, you're just as bad as the people your brother and myself and hundreds of thousands of others have fought since this nation was founded over two hundred years ago. Think about that.

[JK]

...You really don't want to get into a war over history with me. You will lose...badly...

I want to see that! ;)



Is school out for the week or something? There are an awful lot of children mucking around here the last few days...

[ozchick]

Is school out for the week or something? There are an awful lot of children mucking around here the last few days...

I was thinking the same thing this morning. I'm pretty sure I'm not impressed either.

[mrndevildog]

Don't resort to name calling. I gave up three years, three months, eleven days, and my left knee cap for my country. I have earned the right to express my feelings on any damn subject I choose. Your brother is giving up his time for his country- including you and me- so we can express our opinions. If you want to shut out all other opinions and silence anyone who might offend whatever sensibilties you claim to have, you're just as bad as the people your brother and myself and hundreds of thousands of others have fought since this nation was founded over two hundred years ago. Think about that.
yes you have your opinions I see, and i am greatful that you have fought for this country, but Dont say that I am as bad as the people my Brother is Fighting!

[JK]

yes you have your opinions I see, and i am greatful that you have fought for this country, but Dont say that I am as bad as the people my Brother is Fighting!

I am saying that. I'm saying your acting like those who have attempted to supress the free expression of ideas and opinions. You advocated censorship when you told me to shut about the war on terrorism. Calling me names didn't really help your case, either. I could see if I were discussing gay porn or advocating racial supremacy or some other bullshit rhetoric. But I wasn't and I won't- I was discussing the war on terror.
And just because your brother is overseas doesn't mean we all have to tip-toe around the issue. I know how it feels to have a loved one far from home in a combat zone, but I'm not going to use that as an excuse to make people avoid certain topics in an open, public forum. If you don't want to hear or see anything about the war on terrorism, if you don't want participate in open discussions about it and/or topics relating to it- such as a theatrical release of the story of FLight 93- if you want to hide your head in the sand and pretend everything is okey-dokey, then I highly recommend you avoid these kinds of threads. I am not going to stop talking about it just because you demand it. The only way I will stop talking about it here is if I somehow manage to get banned by a moderator.

[BAMSS04]

I still have to respectfully disagree about the 911 movie. Yeah , the first Pearl movie came out months after, but that was back in the 40's. A lot of people refused to watch those movies, even then. I am not saying that movies we're less touching back in the 40's, that Hollywood is wrong for making a movie this soon, but what I am saying that don't be suprised to see a lot of people being pissed about this movie making money off of this. I am saying that it is a little too soon for me to sit back and be entertained by 911. My thing is, that it is all too personal for me. Back in the forties that did not have the ability to personalize these things the way they do today. Not that people were not still just as upset by Pearl as us about 911. Just that I think eveyone was more angry at first. Where as I think that we were sad first and then became angry. I can't speak for everyone else, but for me this was the case. I sat looking at those buildings fall, and I cryed. Then, after a while I became angry.

I think that is the only difference between now and then, was how everyone found out. The media has made things much more personal.

Not to say you're wrong for thinking the way you do, but just that I don't agree. I think it is just a few years too soon for me.

[JK]

The Pearl movies were meant to stir up the war movement and get people motivated to fight and to keep those sentiments strong and alive in the hearts and minds of American men and women, not to be entertaining. I can't imagine Hollywood would be that ghoulish as to think a 911 movie would be entertaining... what Hell am I saying... of course they are...

[Robbo_the_Hood]

(Jesus, we need to get this place talking again so I suppose I'm going to try something to get this things hopping. I figured we haven't had a good knock-down, drag-out since the fire of '05.)

There are two reasons I will not be watching this movie. They are as follows:

1. Hollywood is going to do nothing but screw this up. It's going to be a craptacular summer film with cheesy one-liners like, "I'll show you snakes on the plane," and the whole "Let's roll," thing, and I just bet they find a way for one of the passengers to say "Git R Done." It's going to be focus grouped and market tested to death, and I have a sneaking suspicion that while the ad campaign will make it seem like our patriotic duty to watch this movie, it's going to be as bad as Pearl Harbor.

2. I don't subscribe to very many conspiracy theories. I'd prefer to make up my own convoluted theories based on absolutely nothing but the tiniest of dots I can connect in my brain. However, I remember listening to every radio station I could find in the factory where I was working at the time. We were no where near a TV, and it felt like armageddon after this happened. All day, Flight 93 was reported as being shot down over Pennsylvania on every radio station I could find. Now, I have no problem with the plane being shot down by our own forces. Our military did what it had to do to protect us, and that's fine. I can also see why it would upset some people, and the need to cover that up.

I don't obsess over it, I don't think that the government should be overthrown because of it. I just think the scenario is more plausable that the plane was intercepted. There has been no evidence provided that will change my mind to the contrary. I'm not asking anyone else to believe that this is the absolute truth. These are my own conclusions based on an entire day's worth of the initial radio reports and nothing more. I'm not one of those guys that does the whole, "Because of the direction and speed of the wind, and debris was found here that it proves this."

I understand the need for there to be heroes that day. And it's a nice touching story, but to make a movie out of it that is obviously going to be worse than a Michael Bay film is insulting to the memory of that day.

(That ought to get something started.)

[mrndevildog]

I will have to agree with Robbo.

[Robbo_the_Hood]

I will have to agree with Robbo.You're not supposed to agree with me. Call me names, start a flame war, anything.

[mrndevildog]

Sorry dude, but I seriously agree with you!

[Monster of Rock]

I live in NYC, I know people who died in the trade center that day. I would like to see a movie about it. I feel a filmmaker is entitled to make a movie about anything they want. I believe it might be cathartic for the film maker. True art is a reflection of reality, even if its ugly. I feel a filmaker who tackles this subject is very brave and I hope they do a good job with it. I am against censorship.Painful subjects need to be talked about, it leads to healing.

[By-tor]

Painful subjects need to be talked about, it leads to healing.Okay, so I've got this in-grown hair on my left nut...anybody got any suggestions?

[BAMSS04]

Actually, there is evidence to the contrary.

They have audio tapes confirming everything that happened on the plane. They know that the only two hijackers that were not taken by the passengers were the two in the cockpit. They know that the hijackers were heard praising their mission, and they hear them say "take it down now."

I agree with everything else you say though. I agree that Hollywood would just make it into something it is not. Just like Pearl Harbor.

Just not feeling that the plane was shot down.

[Robbo_the_Hood]

Actually, there is evidence to the contrary.

They have audio tapes confirming everything that happened on the plane. They know that the only two hijackers that were not taken by the passengers were the two in the cockpit. They know that the hijackers were heard praising their mission, and they hear them say "take it down now."
You're missing my point. I'm not saying there isn't evidence to the contrary; I'm saying there is no evidence to the contrary that will convince me otherwise. For an entire day, on multiple radio stations, I heard numerous reports of eyewitness accounts of a plane being shot down. That's enough to keep me convinced. The whole take over the plane scenario didn't make news until a day and a half later.

You don't have to believe the same thing I do, but just know that you're not going to change my mind. Kind of like Matthew and Jesus...except I don't worship the people who died on the plane, so I guess it's more like Matthew and his views on homosexuals...except I don't blame the passengers for dying because they all chose to get on the plane.

All I know is no one will change my mind on this any time soon, and that movie is going to suck.

[jjcourtright]

They have audio tapes confirming everything that happened on the plane. They know that the only two hijackers that were not taken by the passengers were the two in the cockpit. They know that the hijackers were heard praising their mission, and they hear them say "take it down now."

Who are they?

You're suspect.

[BAMSS04]

WHo are they?

The FAA.

[JK]

The FAA.


that's the gov'ment, man! you can't trust them! ;)

[ratm1966]

ramble ramble ramble....more rambling....even more rambling.
Yeah, I am gonna have to agree with you on the movie. It is a mistake to make and will do nothing but suck ass.

However, I feel some urge to make you happy so....

Hey Robbo! You are a fucktard. You can kiss my ass. I can't believe you would say bad things about a movie that will obviously be very patriotic and as close to true as possible. You are obviously a non-patriotic treasonous bastard.

[Monster of Rock]

Okay, so I've got this in-grown hair on my left nut...anybody got any suggestions?
Let me just get out a little of my special ointment and rubbed it on there and everything will be just fine. Isnt that better? Its Aloe. And listen its not safe to go out and have sex with all those dirty prostitutes.By the way your gonna have to with out the kiss on the boo boo thing.
'Thats right Monster has a soft caring side too'

[mrndevildog]

Let me just get out a little of my special ointment and rubbed it
yah I'm sure you like that kind of stuff Monster

[Monster of Rock]

How dare you sir.

[Sgt.Valentine]

Its going to show how all the different strangers on the plane came up as one to stand up to the terrorists.

[Robbo_the_Hood]

Its going to show how all the different strangers on the plane came up as one to stand up to the terrorists.So, according to my post which I'm sure you haven't read, it's going to be a work of fiction?

And that still doesn't mean that the movie is going to be worth the price of the cannister that holds it's reels.

[Zens7s]

Sgt. Valentine = Captain Obvious

[Robbo_the_Hood]

Yeah, I am gonna have to agree with you on the movie. It is a mistake to make and will do nothing but suck ass.

However, I feel some urge to make you happy so....

Hey Robbo! You are a fucktard. You can kiss my ass. I can't believe you would say bad things about a movie that will obviously be very patriotic and as close to true as possible. You are obviously a non-patriotic treasonous bastard.You know, I really want to reply to this in some joking manner. But the last thing I want is any humorous statement I make to be taken seriously and then I can't do any more flying ever.

So, [insert hilarious, unoffensive, yet appropriate quip].

[Robbo_the_Hood]

Sgt. Valentine = Captain ObviousHuh. I never made the connection.

[Zens7s]

Huh. I never made the connection.
Well, it's a simple mistake. I also did not realize that he had received a promotion. Be careful when General Non-sensical comes to the boards.

[Mighty Wingman]

(Jesus, we need to get this place talking again so I suppose I'm going to try something to get this things hopping. I figured we haven't had a good knock-down, drag-out since the fire of '05.)

There are two reasons I will not be watching this movie. They are as follows:

1. Hollywood is going to do nothing but screw this up. It's going to be a craptacular summer film with cheesy one-liners like, "I'll show you snakes on the plane," and the whole "Let's roll," thing, and I just bet they find a way for one of the passengers to say "Git R Done." It's going to be focus grouped and market tested to death, and I have a sneaking suspicion that while the ad campaign will make it seem like our patriotic duty to watch this movie, it's going to be as bad as Pearl Harbor.

2. I don't subscribe to very many conspiracy theories. I'd prefer to make up my own convoluted theories based on absolutely nothing but the tiniest of dots I can connect in my brain. However, I remember listening to every radio station I could find in the factory where I was working at the time. We were no where near a TV, and it felt like armageddon after this happened. All day, Flight 93 was reported as being shot down over Pennsylvania on every radio station I could find. Now, I have no problem with the plane being shot down by our own forces. Our military did what it had to do to protect us, and that's fine. I can also see why it would upset some people, and the need to cover that up.

I don't obsess over it, I don't think that the government should be overthrown because of it. I just think the scenario is more plausable that the plane was intercepted. There has been no evidence provided that will change my mind to the contrary. I'm not asking anyone else to believe that this is the absolute truth. These are my own conclusions based on an entire day's worth of the initial radio reports and nothing more. I'm not one of those guys that does the whole, "Because of the direction and speed of the wind, and debris was found here that it proves this."

I understand the need for there to be heroes that day. And it's a nice touching story, but to make a movie out of it that is obviously going to be worse than a Michael Bay film is insulting to the memory of that day.

(That ought to get something started.)
Just one question Robbo , why do you gotta hate the troops ?

Seriously though it sounds like you've been watching RB's new favorite movie. (http://www.loosechange911.com/)

[Zens7s]

I forgot, as this thread creeped back down, that the name of this movie changed before it got released to United93. I wonder if they originally had difficulties using the name of United.