Brokeback Mountain

[Zens7s]

As most of you know I LOVE me some Jake Gyllenhaal. However, I can't say I am guying into Brokeback Mountain yet.

Gay cowboys? I know they exist...heck, the gay rodeo is a rootin tootin good time. (Maybe that was a bad choice of phrasing) There is just something that isn't grabbing me in the trailer. Of course, I have yet to really love an Ang Lee film either.

Thoughts?

If you haven't watched the trailer yet, check out: http://www.apple.com/trailers/focus_features/brokeback_mountain.html

http://movies.apple.com/trailers/focus_features/images/brokeback_mountain_poster.jpg

[Mighty Wingman]

Gay cowboys?
C'mon, the hat and the buckle didn't tip you off ?
Most guys who dress that way are closet cases.

[Zens7s]

C'mon, the hat and the buckle didn't tip you off ?
Most guys who dress that way are closet cases.
Key being "dress that way."

These two are actually supposed to be real working cowboys. If we judged only by the way that gay people dress then all cops, fireman, indians, construction workers, cowboys, and people who wear leather are gay too.

[By-tor]

These two are actually supposed to be real working cowboys.As opposed to those bastards that showed up to play Oakland Sunday....chit.

[Zens7s]

As opposed to those bastards that showed up to play Oakland Sunday....chit.
I was at the last Ranger game on Sunday, so I missed most of the debacle. They had the beginning of the game playing on the TV in our box, but I didn't catch much of it.

We can't keep expecting to pull off close ones, or take the ones that aren't close and fuck them up at the end.

[Shakes head]

[FanGirl]

yes, yes, but do they eat pudding in this?

[phit_demon]

yes, yes, but do they eat pudding in this?

YAAAAAAAY!!! I was waiting for someone to say it....:D

[FanGirl]

I was surprised no one else had.

How many others have accidentally referred to this as Bareback Mountain?

[Zens7s]

I was surprised no one else had.

How many others have accidentally referred to this as Bareback Mountain?
I have. In fact, I had to retype it once. It's not as much the sexual innuendo as the fact that "Bareback" is a commonly used combination and "brokeback" isn't. But it's so darn funny when I fuck it up!

[ILovePapaSmurf]

I am actually going to be checking it out. It looks really good. And hey, if it is a horrible movie, at least I get to see Heath and Jake make out! Oh, yeah!

[Zens7s]

I am actually going to be checking it out. It looks really good. And hey, if it is a horrible movie, at least I get to see Heath and Jake make out! Oh, yeah!
See, I'm not sure that has ever been a fantasy of mine...but these things happen sometimes. A guys gotta do what a guys gotta do.

[See Cberquist's movie "Swamper" to validate what I am saying above.]

Maybe it will be my own private "My Own Private Idaho" that I will love and cherish and rewatch over and over. Or maybe they will suddenly start flying through the air and unite in a massive blow job orgy-o-rama and I can never have the same kinky sex dreams about Jake without that damn Heath barging in.

[By-tor]

a massive blow job orgy-o-rama That is quite the mouthful there, Zens.

[Zens7s]

That is quite the mouthful there, Zens.
I know, and I have always heard that more than a mouthful is just a waste.

Sadly this means I am wasting all over the place. :)

[ILovePapaSmurf]

Or maybe they will suddenly start flying through the air and unite in a massive blow job orgy-o-rama and I can never have the same kinky sex dreams about Jake without that damn Heath barging in.

I don't know... being stuck in a Health/Jake sandwich actually sounds tempting.

[BAMSS04]

I just lost all respect for Heath and Jake.

[ILovePapaSmurf]

I just lost all respect for Heath and Jake.
Why?

*I hate this 10 character crap!*

[phit_demon]

I know, and I have always heard that more than a mouthful is just a waste.

Sadly this means I am wasting all over the place. :)

Don't ever say that!!! I've seen pictures of you, and I don't see anything wasteful about them....;)

[BAMSS04]

Why?





Maybe I have not lost all respect for them but I am not happy with their choice in movies thus far. It has been too long since I have seen a good movie out of either of them. They are great actors that have yet to impress me a second or third time.

[TLS]

Heath was pretty good in Lords of Dogtown.
I really thought he was a dick. It took me a while to realize it was him.

[Zens7s]

Maybe I have not lost all respect for them but I am not happy with their choice in movies thus far. It has been too long since I have seen a good movie out of either of them. They are great actors that have yet to impress me a second or third time.
You. Must. Go. See. Proof. Yes, it's that good.

http://www.themoviebox.net/movies/2005/NOPQR/Proof/images/main.jpg

[ILovePapaSmurf]

Ok, so I just got backed from seeing 'Brokeback Mountain' and well, let me tell you that the movie was soooo good. Great acting from Heath and Jake and was just very sweet, romantic and very loving. Great film.

[Psyche]

Maybe I have not lost all respect for them but I am not happy with their choice in movies thus far. It has been too long since I have seen a good movie out of either of them. They are great actors that have yet to impress me a second or third time.


jarhead? the order?




well i liked jarhead. then again i have a military fetish.

[lunchbox1970]

OMG! Too many ass to mouth jokes for my simple mind! GAY COWBOYS?!?!?! REALLY?!?!?!?

Lord help us!

And I think I should quit drinking. What is Jake drinking? Or thinking?

Guess Ill have to check this out when it hits DVD!

PEACE

[BAMSS04]

jarhead? the order?




well i liked jarhead. then again i have a military fetish.

Well at the time I typed that, Jarhead was not out. The Order was ok. Heath was not bad in that part, but it would have been hard to screw it up.

[actualsize]

Not interested. Pass. I don't like chick flicks, so why would I want to see this dick flick? There, I said it. I'm not hollywood chic/trendy/whatever.

[Omaru]

I don't think I wanna know who was the fastest slinger out of the two. I'll give it a miss, I haven't completely recovered from Quentin recieving anal on nip/tuck a few weeks ago

[Matthew]

Not interested. Pass. I don't like chick flicks, so why would I want to see this dick flick? There, I said it. I'm not hollywood chic/trendy/whatever.

Someone finally said it.

I am not interested 1 bit in seeing this movie either.

[Robbo_the_Hood]

Not interested. Pass. I don't like chick flicks, so why would I want to see this dick flick? There, I said it. I'm not hollywood chic/trendy/whatever.Oh, come on. Every hollywood buddy-picture is rampant with homosexual undertones that aren't very far fetched to reach, and you can't make the tiniest of leaps to a conclusion that has been alluded to throughout cinematic history?

Hell, if you had any worthwhile relationship with your best friend growing up, the first time one of you got a girlfriend, how jealous was the other one? Exactly!

And hollywood chic is an explosion filled, bullet riddled, catch phrasing, Happy-Meal schilling machine.

[ILovePapaSmurf]

The thing is, the movie didn't give off a chick-flicky vibe to me. It was very truthful and didn't hide anything of what it was presenting. It does get a lil' graphic in one scene, but hey, I wasn't surprised by it at all. The actors were very loving and caring to the role and it shows that the two have incredible chemistry together. It was a brilliant piece of work and even if you don't agree with same sex relationships, I think you should give it a try because the over all message of the film was despite being in a same sex relationship, it all comes down to love. It is great. I highly recommend it and I plan on seeing it again before it exits the theatre.

[Matthew]

I think you should give it a try because the over all message of the film was despite being in a same sex relationship, it all comes down to love.

Well, knowing where I come from, this is the exact reason I am not going to see this movie. I am glad you liked it though, and I am not slamming you at all for liking it. I just choose to not take part in something I strongly disagree with.

[ILovePapaSmurf]

And do you disagree with it because of what you read of because of your OWN personal views?

[Zens7s]

Well, knowing where I come from, this is the exact reason I am not going to see this movie. I am glad you liked it though, and I am not slamming you at all for liking it. I just choose to not take part in something I strongly disagree with.
It is probably a good thing that you don't go. You wouldn't want to catch the gay.

[By-tor]

Matthew, my advice is don't take the bait. It can only go downhill from here. My take is "To each, their own.", but with your record, you got no chance here.

[Matthew]

And do you disagree with it because of what you read of because of your OWN personal views?

Say, personal views are what make us unique. I do not agree with homosexuality and choose not to see a movie because of it's homosexual content. I bet there are things I go to and see that you would refuse to, based on your views..

So what's the problem here Smurfy? This is not a personal slam against you..... you liked the movie, great! I am not going to see it.

[Matthew]

Matthew, my advice is don't take the bait. It can only go downhill from here. My take is "To each, their own.", but with your record, you got no chance here.

Ya, I get baited, it has been several months since this has happened, but for some reason I am labeled the asshole... I can not like something, you can not like something, she can choose not to see something. People need to understand this. I am not being condescending just stating a point. All I said is I am not going to see this movie.

[ILovePapaSmurf]

I was just trying to get an idea on why you wouldn't see the movie. To be honest, I know your religious belief and my mom is the same way, but she accepts gay relationships to the fullest. I am just asking if your opinion is based on what it is "said" in the bible or your own personal idea.

[By-tor]

Ya, I get baited, it has been several months since this has happened, but for some reason I am labeled the asshole... I can not like something, you can not like something, she can choose not to see something. People need to understand this. I am not being condescending just stating a point. All I said is I am not going to see this movie.The deal is you have been considered condescending on numerous occasions, whether you were or not. I'm not taking sides. I just see where this could go bad toot-sweet. I see both sides of view. But on this board, toleration rules.

[Matthew]

I was just trying to get an idea on why you wouldn't see the movie. To be honest, I know your religious belief and my mom is the same way, but she accepts gay relationships to the fullest. I am just asking if your opinion is based on what it is "said" in the bible or your own personal idea.

Both I guess, my views of right and wrong are based on what the bible teaches. I do not hate people at all, but I disprove of homosexuality. I am not a gay basher, but I do not "accept" homosexuality as ok either.

[Matthew]

The deal is you have been considered condescending on numerous occasions, whether you were or not. I'm not taking sides. I just see where this could go bad toot-sweet. I see both sides of view. But on this board, toleration rules.

hehe, sure it does...

[By-tor]

hehe, sure it does...... as long as you are tolerant of tolerance.

Good one, though.

[lunchbox1970]

Tolerant of tolerance?

By-tor? My brother? Were you trying to use logic on a message board? Save yourself the insanity before you end up in a rubber room!

Tread safely! PEACE

[EternalStrife]

I am not against guys getting it on. I am just a mite uncomfortable seeing guys getting it on. Which is why I am afraid of going to see this movie.

[Robbo_the_Hood]

Monkey see, monkey do?

[Zens7s]

I am not against guys getting it on. I am just a mite uncomfortable seeing guys getting it on. Which is why I am afraid of going to see this movie.
I can understand that. I will admit, I don't feel terribly thrilled when I see guys hooking up either.

[Ismael]

I am not against guys getting it on. I am just a mite uncomfortable seeing guys getting it on. Which is why I am afraid of going to see this movie.
I was a little shocked when I finally watched all of Crash (the one based on the book by JG Ballard) and saw Elias Koteas (Casey Jones from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle movies) and James Spader having sex. I watched Ninja Turtles two summers ago and the movie was not the same. :(

[By-tor]

I can understand that. I will admit, I don't feel terribly thrilled when I see guys hooking up either.But, girls? Now that is a totally different story. :D

[Omaru]

I was a little shocked when I finally watched all of Crash (the one based on the book by JG Ballard) and saw Elias Koteas (Casey Jones from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle movies) and James Spader having sex. I watched Ninja Turtles two summers ago and the movie was not the same. :(

Maybe Casey was just trying to teach the punk a lesson.

[Zens7s]

But, girls? Now that is a totally different story. :D
I know you are being funny, but it is different for me. I should say this...I also find masculine like women together very unattractive. [Shiver]

[By-tor]

I know you are being funny, but it is different for me. I should say this...I also find masculine like women together very unattractive. [Shiver]Oh, hell, I'm with you there. I was talking more like you and Jenna J.

[EternalStrife]

Monkey see, monkey do?

Yeah, now that you mentioned it, I definately wouldn't let a monkey see that movie either. But why are we suddenly talking about monkeys?

[karmattack]

Everybody has something to hide except for me and my monkey.

[Robbo_the_Hood]

Yeah, now that you mentioned it, I definately wouldn't let a monkey see that movie either. But why are we suddenly talking about monkeys?Well, you said you couldn't watch two guys getting it on, yet two girls is fine. Now, I'm pretty sure after seeing the two girls, you really want to try it. So it stands to reason that after you see the two guys doing it...sort of lends itself to a monkey see, monkey do situation.

[Zens7s]

Well, you said you couldn't watch two guys getting it on, yet two girls is fine. Now, I'm pretty sure after seeing the two girls, you really want to try it. So it stands to reason that after you see the two guys doing it...sort of lends itself to a monkey see, monkey do situation.I have watched Elk do it on the Discovery channel. It doesn't make me want to have wild and crazy Elk sex. Ok, maybe it does. But it isn't on my Top 10. ;)

[Robbo_the_Hood]

Yeah, but you're not against elk having sex. So many people don't have a problem watching two women, but two men is disgusting. It's also against some people's beliefs. I personally think it's because if they see two guys doing it, they'll like it and want to try it.

[Razorback]

I have no problem watching two men have pretend sex on screen. I am pretty sure I would not be thrilled about watching two men have real sex on film, though. I only want to watch two people have sex if it is a turn-on... and for some reason, that just isn't.

However, more power to all the men in the world who want to have sex with other men. Yay homosexual sex!

[Zens7s]

However, more power to all the men in the world who want to have sex with other men. Yay homosexual sex!See, you are the only smart one in here. You know that the more guys that go gay the more ladies available to the troops in the hetero camp.

[Razorback]

See, you are the only smart one in here. You know that the more guys that go gay the more ladies available to the troops in the hetero camp.

...and Bingo was his name!

[EternalStrife]

Well, you said you couldn't watch two guys getting it on, yet two girls is fine. Now, I'm pretty sure after seeing the two girls, you really want to try it. So it stands to reason that after you see the two guys doing it...sort of lends itself to a monkey see, monkey do situation.

Well I never said two girls getting it on is okay, and before anyone says anthing else, I never said two girls getting it on isn't fine either. I'd prefer to stand on being sideless on that particular issue. So your reasoning really came out of nowhere.

[Zens7s]

Being Gay is also handy for population control. It means less accidental pregnancies.

Also, I think Gays should have the right to marry. Why shouldn't they have equal opportunity to be just as miserable as the rest of us.

Wow, I just swung so far to the left I may end up back on the right. :)

[Robbo_the_Hood]

Being Gay is also handy for population control. It means less accidental pregnancies.

Also, I think Gays should have the right to marry. Why shouldn't they have equal opportunity to be just as miserable as the rest of us.

Wow, I just swung so far to the left I may end up back on the right. :)Oh, I've been waiting for one of these threads to happen. It's been so long since we've had a good board-burnin'.

[Zens7s]

Oh, I've been waiting for one of these threads to happen. It's been so long since we've had a good board-burnin'.
Yeah, I thought so too. Fire it up people! I have brought myself for the scorching!

[Robbo_the_Hood]

Yeah, I thought so too. Fire it up people! I have brought myself for the scorching!Hey! A woman with an opinion! And it's got nothing to do with the ammount of sugar that goes into a pie for optimum taste. Next she'll want a job outside the home, pants, own property, and vote. There's a reason there are so many natural disasters happening. Armageddon is upon us because women are starting to think of things outside the home.

[Zens7s]

Hey! A woman with an opinion! And it's got nothing to do with the ammount of sugar that goes into a pie for optimum taste. Next she'll want a job outside the home, pants, own property, and vote. There's a reason there are so many natural disasters happening. Armageddon is upon us because women are starting to think of things outside the home.
Yeah I know. My head hurt from having opinions this morning before I put on my pants, walked out of the home I own, and went off to the job where this week we finalize a $8 billion dollar deal to take our company back to private.
But what I really want to know is why anyone would think of using a glass bottomed pie plate when it always leaves your crust tough. I recommend the Emile Henry ceramic. It makes all the difference in the world. :D

[ILovePapaSmurf]

Oh, I wouldn't know about the cookin' an all. My parents are ashamed of me as we speak since I have yet to marry, learn how to cook and bare any children... and I'm only 22. *sigh* Why does this have to happen to me!?

[Zens7s]

Oh, I wouldn't know about the cookin' an all. My parents are ashamed of me as we speak since I have yet to marry, learn how to cook and bare any children... and I'm only 22. *sigh* Why does this have to happen to me!?
Look at it this way, they would be equally vocal and annoyed if you had married and gotten pregnant to some idiot at 18. As for learning to cook, the way to do it is start throwing drunken dinner parties. It's the only way to make it fun, and also make bad food in the beginning that your guests won't remember eating.

God...22 is WAY too young to be married. You are such a cutie...live it up woman!

[Robbo_the_Hood]

Oh, I wouldn't know about the cookin' an all. My parents are ashamed of me as we speak since I have yet to marry, learn how to cook and bare any children... and I'm only 22. *sigh* Why does this have to happen to me!?The girl's family back in Romania is ashamed of her for the same reasons. I'm waiting for the blame to turn to me any day now.

[Robbo_the_Hood]

God...22 is WAY too young to be married. You are such a cutie...live it up woman!Hell, 27...or any age for that matter is too young to get married.

[Zens7s]

I think it is such a strange thing for families to be ashamed for their children NOT being codependent. Shouldn't they be proud for raising someone self-sufficient?

I guess I don't get it because my parents never put this kind of pressure on me. Thank God.

[Zens7s]

Hell, 27...or any age for that matter is too young to get married.
I was 25 when I was married and 26 when I was divorced. I intend on reversing that first number before I consider getting married again. I think 52 is a lovely age to find another 25 year old to shack up with. :)

[ILovePapaSmurf]

Well, my mom hasn't come forward with it actually, but I can see it in her eyes and I can tell when she goes shopping for my friend's grandchildren. She always sighs, turns to me and asks, "When are you going to have kids?" I laugh and say, ask your son. She gets so pissed.

And then my grandparents were so excited when I finally got a boyfriend. Like they thought I was some lesbian or something. When my mom told me that, I laughed so hard and said, mom, I like boys WAYYYY too much. They got married around my age and they think I should be married already have have two children. Wow have times changed!

[Zens7s]

Maybe the difference is the age our parents married. My mom was 25 and my dad was 30 when they got married, and two years later I showed up. Back then that was ancient. Although it is weird to to think that I was already a year old when mom was my age.

By the way Smurfy, I have a joke especially for you:

a) How many kids with ADD does it take to change a light bulb?
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b) Want to go ride bikes?
I thought of you only because of the dehydrated Mexican incident.
:D

[jjcourtright]

Here's how Larry David weighs in on Brokeback Mountain from the NYTimes (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/01/opinion/01david.html?oref=login):

Cowboys Are My Weakness
By LARRY DAVID
Published: January 1, 2006
SOMEBODY had to write this, and it might as well be me. I haven't seen "Brokeback Mountain," nor do I have any intention of seeing it. In fact, cowboys would have to lasso me, drag me into the theater and tie me to the seat, and even then I would make every effort to close my eyes and cover my ears.

And I love gay people. Hey, I've got gay acquaintances. Good acquaintances, who know they can call me anytime if they had my phone number. I'm for gay marriage, gay divorce, gay this and gay that. I just don't want to watch two straight men, alone on the prairie, fall in love and kiss and hug and hold hands and whatnot. That's all.

Is that so terrible? Does that mean I'm homophobic? And if I am, well, then that's too bad. Because you can call me any name you want, but I'm still not going to that movie.

To my surprise, I have some straight friends who've not only seen the movie but liked it. "One of the best love stories ever," one gushed. Another went on, "Oh, my God, you completely forget that it's two men. You in particular will love it."

"Why me?"

"You just will, trust me."

But I don't trust him. If two cowboys, male icons who are 100 percent all-man, can succumb, what chance to do I have, half- to a quarter of a man, depending on whom I'm with at the time? I'm a very susceptible person, easily influenced, a natural-born follower with no sales-resistance. When I walk into a store, clerks wrestle one another trying to get to me first. My wife won't let me watch infomercials because of all the junk I've ordered that's now piled up in the garage. My medicine cabinet is filled with vitamins and bald cures.

So who's to say I won't become enamored with the whole gay business? Let's face it, there is some appeal there. I know I've always gotten along great with men. I never once paced in my room rehearsing what to say before asking a guy if he wanted to go to the movies. And I generally don't pay for men, which of course is their most appealing attribute.

And gay guys always seem like they're having a great time. At the Christmas party I went to, they were the only ones who sang. Boy that looked like fun. I would love to sing, but this weighty, self-conscious heterosexuality I'm saddled with won't permit it.

I just know if I saw that movie, the voice inside my head that delights in torturing me would have a field day. "You like those cowboys, don't you? They're kind of cute. Go ahead, admit it, they're cute. You can't fool me, gay man. Go ahead, stop fighting it. You're gay! You're gay!"

Not that there's anything wrong with it.

Larry David appears in the HBO series "Curb Your Enthusiasm."

[Zens7s]

That is hysterical! I love Larry David.

He does have a point I agree with though. I have no desire to see cowboys holding hands and falling in love. Writers? Fine. Ballet Dancers? Fine. Hairdressers? Show me a movie about hetero ones and I would be wierded out. ;)

[Razorback]

That is hysterical! I love Larry David.

He does have a point I agree with though. I have no desire to see cowboys holding hands and falling in love. Writers? Fine. Ballet Dancers? Fine. Hairdressers? Show me a movie about hetero ones and I would be wierded out. ;)

Ahhh... but the performances. You go to see the brilliant performances by the actors.

[ILovePapaSmurf]

Zens, I laughed my ass off at your joke. But, I told it to a couple other people and they just looked at me and walked away. Like parents, they just don't understand.

[Zens7s]

Zens, I laughed my ass off at your joke. But, I told it to a couple other people and they just looked at me and walked away. Like parents, they just don't understand.
We use it so much now we have dropped the first part and whenever somebody changes the subject randomly we say "Want to go ride bikes?"

[DOOM2099]

It is probably a good thing that you don't go. You wouldn't want to catch the gay.

My cousin caught it and it THERE IS NO CURE!

Seriously, there is no way I would ever see this movie.


Ever.

[Jason_Brown]

I thought of you only because of the dehydrated Mexican incident.
It is best never to mention it. Even here, in Cairo's notorious "Robot Slum", we only speak of "el incidente Mexicano deshidratado" in hushed tones.