i think i may be dyslexic

[acid_soda]

i went to look at the "good thing it's firday" thread. well, i thought it said "good thing it's friday" and i didn't get the joke for about ten minutes. does anyone know if i may actually may be mildly dyslexic or did this happen to everyone else?
i wanna know.

[Razorback]

It is pssobile, hwta givse you that iead?

[acid_soda]

it happens very often. at book stores, i often read titles wrong by flipping two letters around, or accidentally adding a letter.

[Matthew]

Not dyslexic, this means you have ADD, or in otherwords lack of patience and discipline.

[acid_soda]

is it possible to have both ADD and ADHD? that is what some doctors are diagnosing in some kids. Could the combination be Aspberger's Syndrome in disguise?

[JK]

is it possible to have both ADD and ADHD? that is what some doctors are diagnosing in some kids. Could the combination be Aspberger's Syndrome in disguise?

ADD and ADHD are bullshit disorders, created by parents and teachers who didn't want to actually spend the time raising an active child. If I had been born ten years later, I would have been diagnosed ADD and been doped to the gills and I'd probably be bi-polar and some sort of addict like most the kids (young adults) I know who were labelled as ADD/ADHD. But I wasn't, and I'm ab-so-fucking-lutely fine.

Just my opinion.

[Mighty Wingman]

is it possible to have both ADD and ADHD? that is what some doctors are diagnosing in some kids. Could the combination be Aspberger's Syndrome in disguise?

Speaking of ass burgers....

[Tydyed Bandit]

Yes, let's make fun of serious mental disorders. It's most fun.

[acid_soda]

No, not mental, but more social and school problems occur. it's what i've heard

[Tydyed Bandit]

Yeah, but did you have three kids with it in your school from elementary to High?

One of the guys was the smartest kid on earth untill about the fifth grade, when his memory and thinking skills deteriorated to nothing by senior year. He didn't even ge to graduate.

(I'm talking about Aspbergers syndrome)

[JK]

Yes, let's make fun of serious mental disorders. It's most fun.

Little Joey has a lot of energy. He's up and down all afternoon, playing with the cat, then his toys, then the dog; pestering his mom, playing a video game, running in and out, never sitting still for more than five minutes- all of this between 1pm and 2pm. At school, little Joey gets bored- he blows off the work. He looks for new ways to entertain himself. He starts acting up in class or just flat out ignores what's going on in class. The mom is upset at home because she can't keep up with the kid and the teacher is frustrated because she's losing control of the class. What are they to do with little Joey?

This goes back to an arguement I made in another thread- some parents want little adults that sit quietly and behave as if they were in fact little adults. The kids are just being kids, but the parents can't deal with that, so they take 'em to a doctor. Or worse, a teacher decides to prescribe drug therapy. The doctor and the drug companies of course, want to make money, so they diagnose ADD or ADHD and get the kids on a drug therapy program that turns the kids into zombies and makes the parents feel better about themselves, because one) they found a proactive solution to their problem, and two) they now have a well behaved child whom they can proudly display to all their friends. Not to mention the parents themselves are taking pills for anything and everything- Daddy's going bald, take some Propecia. Daddy can't get it up- take some Viagra. Mommy's feeling a little stressed out- take a Valium. Mommy's feeling a little depressed- take a Welbutrin. The kids are acting up? There must be a pill to cure it, because mommy and daddy fix everything with a pill. The solution to every problem can be found in a little yellow pill...:rolleyes:

The kid I described is a textbook example of ADD/ADHD and you can bet your ass he'd be taking the prescription du jour. That description is exactly how I was as a child. I didn't have a short attention span, I didn't have trouble concentrating or focusing on one task- I was a typical kid, dammit! I wanted to see everything, I wanted to do everything. (And when I got bored in school, it was because every lesson in class was geared to the slowest kid because we don't want to upset the kids who might not get it right away- that would be unfair and Heaven forbid, they're actually challenged.) All those things are what a child is supposed to do- run, play, get into stuff. It's how they learn, it's how they grow.

Now for the disclaimer: these are my opinions and I'm sure the parents will take issue with me and tell me I don't have a fucking clue...

[Tydyed Bandit]

Little Joey has a lot of energy. He's up and down all afternoon, playing with the cat, then his toys, then the dog; pestering his mom, playing a video game, running in and out, never sitting still for more than five minutes- all of this between 1pm and 2pm. At school, little Joey gets bored- he blows off the work. He looks for new ways to entertain himself. He starts acting up in class or just flat out ignores what's going on in class. The mom is upset at home because she can't keep up with the kid and the teacher is frustrated because she's losing control of the class. What are they to do with little Joey?

This goes back to an arguement I made in another thread- some parents want little adults that sit quietly and behave as if they were in fact little adults. The kids are just being kids, but the parents can't deal with that, so they take 'em to a doctor. Or worse, a teacher decides to prescribe drug therapy. The doctor and the drug companies of course, want to make money, so they diagnose ADD or ADHD and get the kids on a drug therapy program that turns the kids into zombies and makes the parents feel better about themselves, because one) they found a proactive solution to their problem, and two) they now have a well behaved child whom they can proudly display to all their friends. Not to mention the parents themselves are taking pills for anything and everything- Daddy's going bald, take some Propecia. Daddy can't get it up- take some Viagra. Mommy's feeling a little stressed out- take a Valium. Mommy's feeling a little depressed- take a Welbutrin. The kids are acting up? There must be a pill to cure it, because mommy and daddy fix everything with a pill. The solution to every problem can be found in a little yellow pill...:rolleyes:

The kid I described is a textbook example of ADD/ADHD and you can bet your ass he'd be taking the prescription du jour. That description is exactly how I was as a child. I didn't have a short attention span, I didn't have trouble concentrating or focusing on one task- I was a typical kid, dammit! I wanted to see everything, I wanted to do everything. (And when I got bored in school, it was because every lesson in class was geared to the slowest kid because we don't want to upset the kids who might not get it right away- that would be unfair and Heaven forbid, they're actually challenged.) All those things are what a child is supposed to do- run, play, get into stuff. It's how they learn, it's how they grow.

Now for the disclaimer: these are my opinions and I'm sure the parents will take issue with me and tell me I don't have a fucking clue...

Aspburgers syndrome is NOT ADD/ADHD, what you just spoke about has NOTHING to do with Aspbugers. That's what I was talking about.

[JK]

Aspburgers syndrome is NOT ADD/ADHD, what you just spoke about has NOTHING to do with Aspbugers. That's what I was talking about.

Well, excuse the fuck out of me.

[Mighty Wingman]

Yes, let's make fun of serious mental disorders. It's most fun.

More fun than making a post that says "I'm bored."


I take it you don't want fries with your ass burger?

[Tydyed Bandit]

Funny. And mature. Good show.

[ozchick]

i went to look at the "good thing it's firday" thread. well, i thought it said "good thing it's friday" and i didn't get the joke for about ten minutes. does anyone know if i may actually may be mildly dyslexic or did this happen to everyone else?
i wanna know.

Back to the original question. I doubt, based on this case alone, that you are dyslexic. You might be mildly retarded though !;)

When you read a familiar statement or cliche like "Thank God it's ... " your brain automatically connects it to the phrase and inserts the word "Friday". If you're pedantic (like myself) you realise straight away that the word is spelled "firday" but you probably (as I did) assume it's just a typo. When you open the thread and see the pic you go back to the heading and realise it's a play on words.

I transpose words/letters when I'm writing all the time and I don't think for one second that I'm dyslexic, rather that my brain is moving faster than my hand.

[acid_soda]

oh, so that's the problem, THANKS OZCHICK!

i guess i did sound a tad stupid when i assumed that.

[By-tor]

I'm sure the parents will take issue with me and tell me I don't have a fucking clue...
You don't have a fucking clue.:D
No, I'm right there with you on the drug thing. I don't think kids need to be prescibed any kind of drug that can effect the brain. Unless they have shown some sort of deviant or dangerous behavior toward others(animals included). Like snowflakes, every brain is uniquely different and will react to stimuli differently. What works for one, may not for another. I've found the "Spare the rod, spoil the child" argument can get totally diffrerent results. Good and bad. I would suggest a parent try "spare" or "spoil", or a combination of both before ever resorting to drugs.(Although the occasional bong hit for the parent might relieve the stress)

[ozchick]

You BOTH don't have a fucking clue! Freakin scientologists! :D

I say drug 'em all!

FYI - I hate kids and have zero intention of having any (luckily for them :) ), but if by some intervention from Satan I do have any you can be sure that they will be doped up to the eyeball.

[acid_soda]

i used to take ADHD meds, and i hated taking them from that day i started in kidnergarten until the day in eighth grade that my mom let me stop. the stuff made me nervous when i had to be social, so kids made fun of me. that really sucked.

[By-tor]

i used to take ADHD meds, and i hated taking them from that day i started in kidnergarten until the day in eighth grade that my mom let me stop. the stuff made me nervous when i had to be social, so kids made fun of me. that really sucked.
And there is no way of telling what kind of person you would be today without the meds.(Better or worse? who knows?) The mind is not something to be toyed with.

[acid_soda]

f i was still on the meds, my liver would be SHOT, i would still have social probs, and i would not be posting on these boards. a future i cannot even
BEGIN to IMAGINE living.

[Tydyed Bandit]

And there is no way of telling what kind of person you would be today without the meds.(Better or worse? who knows?) The mind is not something to be toyed with.


Tell every woman on earth that.

[By-tor]

Tell every woman on earth that.
Not much luck with the female persuasion? ;)

[acid_soda]

so EVERY woman on earth is on Ritalin?:rolleyes:

[Tydyed Bandit]

Not much luck with the female persuasion? ;)

I was referring to the "The mind is not a thing to be toyed with"

Seems as though its the one thing that every chick does constantly, though.

[By-tor]

I was referring to the "The mind is not a thing to be toyed with"

Seems as though its the one thing that every chick does constantly, though.
Yeah, they aren't always such the delicate flower.

[JK]

...I don't think kids need to be prescibed any kind of drug that can effect the brain...

Good manners, self-discipline, and the ability to focus are things thought should be taught to a child, not prescribed. It's the mentality of the microwave popcorn society- everything is results orientated and those results need to happen yesterday. Most of the results I've seen of kids on ADD drugs are not good...

I saw a commercial the other day for some new form of Ritalin or some shit- it blew my mind. They had a kid pimping this stuff- "I feel a lot better since I started taking Focusatiktrix (or whatever the hell it was called) It helps me pay attention in class and to be better adjusted with my friends and my kid sister. That makes my parents happy and want to be around me more." And it wasn't just Timmy the Pusher extolling the virtues of being medicated 24 hours a day that set me off- the house these people lived in could easily go for 275K here in Atlanta. The SUV and the luxury sedan in the driveway- a few shots of them out at the boat house... Unless mom and dad won the lottery, I imagine they're working 70 to 80 hours a week each to afford that lifestyle... Of course their kids are fucked up- there's nobody taking care of 'em except maybe Maria the Housekeeper! I realize it's just a commercial, but I see shit like that just driving down the street.

Maybe this is such a hot-button issue for me since my mom tried to have me committed when I was 13, because I "lacked focus or concentration skills". Instead, I moved in with my dad and I turned out fine- no drugs, no therapy. Just a parent who cared enough to actually be there and to take the time to raise me.

[By-tor]

Good manners, self-discipline, and the ability to focus are things thought should be taught to a child, not prescribed...Just a parent who cared enough to actually be there and to take the time to raise me.
In a nutshell.

[Matthew]

One of the guys was the smartest kid on earth untill about the fifth grade, when his memory and thinking skills deteriorated to nothing by senior year. He didn't even ge to graduate.


Again, lack of patience and discipline. I agree with jk totally on this issue.

[Tydyed Bandit]

Again, lack of patience and discipline. I agree with jk totally on this issue.

Because the kid's borderline Autistic!? Do you even KNOW what Aspburgers syndrome is?

IF you guys are serious, the bunch of you can fuck off. That shit's not funny.

[Matthew]

Autismis a different story, I did a paper on that in College and did a ton of research for it. Absolutely fascinating stuff! Those autistic people are so smart, yet the ones that can talk say like they are trapped in a box, and have very narrow vision, and can not focus at any given task for very long at all. Even tying your shoes can be frustrating, because it takes too long.

I am talking about ADHD and ADD, or whatever they call being a kid with shitty parents these days. There is no such thing.

[Tydyed Bandit]

Autismis a different story, I did a paper on that in College and did a ton of research for it. Absolutely fascinating stuff! Those autistic people are so smart, yet the ones that can talk say like they are trapped in a box, and have very narrow vision, and can not focus at any given task for very long at all. Even tying your shoes can be frustrating, because it takes too long.

I am talking about ADHD and ADD, or whatever they call being a kid with shitty parents these days. There is no such thing.


I don't agree. I believe that ADD and ADHD both exist, but I don't think that medication is the way to handle it. It's easy to see the difference between a kid that has it really bad and one that doesn't, and yeah, while Teachers should take more time to make them learn the material, it's not fair to the rest of the class to have to deal with a disruptor and learn at a slower rate because of it.

I know plenty of people that took Ritalin and the like, and none of them have had any lasting drug-addictions. I think the main problem is that sometimes depression is mistaken for ADD, when a kid isn't paying attention or seems in his/her own world, people give those kids Ritalin, shich fucks with their mind even more.

[Matthew]

Starts with the parents and the teachers in disciplining the child.

ADD /ADHD can be viewed a few ways.

1. Lack of discipline, 2. Extremely smart. 3. Both 1 and 2.

What happens is these kids never learn how to stay focused at a task. Most of it is being a kid and wanting to know everything! But, both Parents and Teachers alike need to help teach the child how to be more focused. Parents being the first. Kid's need to be taught to not say no to authority. Kids are kids, and need direction, Kids are not as jk put it 'young adults'. You can not reason by saying "no little jimmy, don't do that hon." This kind of "reasoning" is what brings out *cough* ADD. When kids are allowed to disrespect authority figures in their parents and teachers, trouble will ensue.

When I was in school, we had this things called The Principles Office, Detention, Suspension, and even Expulsion as means to discipline disruptive children in school. God forbid any child get held back a grade these days!

[Tydyed Bandit]

Starts with the parents and the teachers in disciplining the child.

ADD /ADHD can be viewed a few ways.

1. Lack of discipline, 2. Extremely smart. 3. Both 1 and 2.

What happens is these kids never learn how to stay focused at a task. Most of it is being a kid and wanting to know everything! But, both Parents and Teachers alike need to help teach the child how to be more focused. Parents being the first. Kid's need to be taught to not say no to authority. Kids are kids, and need direction, Kids are not as jk put it 'young adults'. You can not reason by saying "no little jimmy, don't do that hon." This kind of "reasoning" is what brings out *cough* ADD. When kids are allowed to disrespect authority figures in their parents and teachers, trouble will ensue.

When I was in school, we had this things called The Principles Office, Detention, Suspension, and even Expulsion as means to discipline disruptive children in school. God forbid any child get held back a grade these days!

And how many scientific and neurological studies have you performed on normal and supposed ADHD/ADD children? Are you basing everything you say on what the TV says every now and then, or some website that says Pills are bad? Which is it?

[Matthew]

I don't watch a lot of TV, I am against medication unless it is totally necessary.

Case in point:
My nephew was diagnosed with "adhd" and he was just a normal kid. His bitch ex-wife wanted the ritalin cure, which was bullshit. My brother took time to work with him and teach him better discipline(for example: you sit there and do your work before you do anything else), and also had to re-teach my nephew about authority. No pills needed.

[Gotherella]

ADHD/ADD meds are very overprescribed. Most kids who end up on them just need more attention, discipline, and stuff to do, like JK said. The meds do, however, work for kids who truly need them. I've seen kids make complete turnarounds and become successful and happy once the dosage was right (which is really difficult to get right). I'd say about one out of every ten kids on meds actually should be. I taught kindergarten through 2nd grade for 9 years, so I have some experience in this area.

Aspberger's Syndrome has little to do with ADD/ADHD. It's a form of autism characterized by "normal intelligence and language development, but ... also ...autistic-like behaviors and marked deficiencies in social and communication skills."

[freetoaster]

ADHD/ADD meds are very overprescribed. Most kids who end up on them just need more attention, discipline, and stuff to do, like JK said.


You're right, parents go to the pediatrician seeking these meds. They are much like the anti- depressants that have become so popular, very overprescribed. It seems like we are being sold on our illness and the cure before a physician comes into the picture.

[Zens7s]

Well said, Gotharella. Everytime this issue comes up on the board I get SO disappointed in people I often find level headed.

It is true that ADD/ADHD medication is overperscribed. Many parents want to find a reason why their child is not doing well, and finding a disorder to explain it is easier than admitting they need work on their parenting skills.

However, ADD/ADHD is not caused from a "lack of dicipline", or is a "made-up-disease". Like the majority of emotional problems, it is a chemical imbalance. When children or adults who take the medication feel more restless, agitated, or revved up it means that they do not have the disorder. In the chemically imbalanced it allows them to refine the thought filtering process long enough to be able to concentrate like the normal population.

There is also a great misconception that ADD/ADHD people are all behavior problems, do badly at school and their jobs, and are erratic in behavior. This stereotype is perpetuated by those parents who send every bad kid to get Ritalin. It would shock many of you to know the very high functioning and sucessful people who have learned to harnass their own chemical differences and use them effectively in society. All we ever see or hear of is the ones that were either misdiagnosed, or are co-morbid with something like bi-polar disease that intensifies the issues.

Why do high-functioning people with ADD/ADHD not talk about their disorder? Because of the EXACT reasons we see in this thread. It is popular to misunderstand the nature of the disorder, and it is perpetuated by misdiagnosis.

I have ADD & narcolepsy, and have been taking medication for a few years. I am not, and was not ever, a behavior problem or did badly in school. I am, by most people's standards, extremely successful. I do not have socialization problems. I worked tirelessly my whole life to overcome a style of thinking that is exhausting. Yes, behavioral treatments are effective. However, the medication makes the fight just that much less difficult.

The best way I can describe it is the feeling that I have a switch in my brain that can be turned on or off by the medication. Without it I am excessively creative, my heart-rate accelerates, and I think 1,000 different things at a time. One small distraction sends my mind into shockwaves of other thoughts. With it I can actually implement those thoughts without having to physically tie myself to a chair in a sound-proof room.

It scares me to hear the "Tom Cruise" concepts in this. My medication is extremely difficult to get as it is, and with all these myths and misconceptions it just gets worse.

I don't want to go back to having to fight my own mind for space everyday. Just because I can do without it doesn't mean I should have to because of other people's stupidity. I can also live without allergy medicine too. I can just spend my life wiping my eyes every five minutes and sneezing all the time. But why should I?

[Gotherella]

Just to clarify, ADD stands for Attention Deficit Disorder, which is extreme difficulty or inability to focus or pay attention.

ADHD stands for Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, which is as above with the addition of hyperactivity.

Not everyone with true ADD is hyperactive, and you can by hyperactive without ADD.

[bwdial]

It has more to do with your mind's ability to process information. So long as the first and last letters of a word are where they are supposed to be, your mind is able to translate what you are supposed to see.

[Gotherella]

From an email making the rounds:

The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid

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[acid_soda]

yaeh, taht is waht the sticensits say. I hpoe tehy are rghit.

[jjcourtright]

I would add what Gotherella said, but she already said it.

[freetoaster]

Zens I hope you didn't think I was just being flip about the medication or attention deficit. Part of the difficulty in obtaining the medication could be due to the tendency of some to abuse these meds. In the late 1950s and early 1960s, just after the Japanese discoverd Methedrine, stimulants were often precribed for everything from boredom to weight loss. I think amphetamines were the most popularly prescribed medication of the time, like a cure-all.

Now we have the epidemic of bath-tub speed and all of its horror stories. Living in N. Texas, i'm sure you have heard a few. Back to ADD meds, I remember a story on 20/20 about the popularization of these meds as a recreational drug or study crutch. The reporter wasn't able to purchase any Ritalin, but then again I don't think the guy could have bummed a smoke. I never saw any ADD meds for sale on a college campus, but do have a dyslexic friend that was prescribed, what sounded like, an "eat all you care to" prescription for Dexedrine. He was often worried about people getting into his meds, and he did have a difficult time getting off of them.

I back your right to have easier access to your meds. I know how frustrating it is to have a medical condition be seemingly discounted as a falsehood. Sometimes going to the Dr. is down right humiliating. My sister was on Ritalin at the age 8. My brother saw a physician last week about his inability to focus or "still his scattered thoughts". He hasn't gotten any feedback yet, but I could relate all to well to his symptoms. I hesitate to seek medical advice on this issue because of my own dislike for SSRIs and the like. I know it's not the same, but I hate to think that I might need a medication to correct my thought process. I refuse to attempt to diagnose myself or children I hear other adults talk about that, "must have ADD".

I appreciate your honesty. I just have reservations about current drugs being marketed to help make our "psychological function more normal." My sister used to get too focused on some of the drawings she made on Ritalin. I hated to think, "my-God-my-eight-year-old-sister-is-on-drugs."I didn't mean to have my skepticism be expressed as an overarching cynicism toward the disorder or the medications.

[Zens7s]

Zens I hope you didn't think I was just being flip about the medication or attention deficit.Actually no, it was not your comments that I thought frustrating.

I can see why the drug does get abused by people without the disorder. The one effect it does have on me is that I have little appetite when I take the full-dosage daily. I generally take my dosage every other day, and not on weekends. It's my wierd way of regulating it. The days I am off it I want to eat a house, which would be my normal function.

Speaking of N. Texas, I get so frustrated having to buy plain ol' Sudafed behind the counter now. I stood in line at Target for 30 min. waiting for the pharmacist to give me a box I used to be able to buy at the gas station. Sometimes it's really tiring getting punished for other people's bad behavior. Putting it behind the counter isn't going to stop anyone who has a mind to do it.

[jjcourtright]

I think that that is a mostly nationwide thing now...either that or meth production is big business in North Texas and Colorado Springs.

[Zens7s]

I think that that is a mostly nationwide thing now...either that or meth production is big business in North Texas and Colorado Springs.I heard they were teaming up and taking over the whole country...like Captain and Tennille, or umm...well, they didn't really take over anything, did they.

I want to know what the final scientific explanation is for why all meth users have teeth that fall out. Cocaine is a stimulant and that doesn't make your teeth fall out as a rule.

[Dave]

I think it's nation wide, because they have done the same thing here in the 'Ham. This has got to hurt Sudifed's sales, because i'm going for an alternate product rather than standing in line to buy some Ephedrin.

[Zens7s]

I think it's nation wide, because they have done the same thing here in the 'Ham. This has got to hurt Sudifed's sales, because i'm going for an alternate product rather than standing in line to buy some Ephedrin.Alavert works very well and is non-drowsy. However, it is hard to find a generic and it's much more expensive than the alternative. My doctor recommended it to me and I use it in my bad months.

[jjcourtright]

I've found Claritin(okay store-brand Claritin) to be a godsend. Not sure how I made it through life before I found it.

On a somewhat similar note, my eye doctor could see that I have season allergies by looking at my eyes on Saturday...even though my allergies don't bother me until September. All seeing bastard.

[Zens7s]

I've found Claritin(okay store-brand Claritin) to be a godsend. Not sure how I made it through life before I found it.

On a somewhat similar note, my eye doctor could see that I have season allergies by looking at my eyes on Saturday...even though my allergies don't bother me until September. All seeing bastard.My wildest, craziest college drinking buddy is an optomotrist now. Therefore I suspect all eye doctors of being up to something.

This year I finally had to get glasses. I was getting too many headaches at work. Then I finally broke down and bought really nice sunglasses for the first time. Apparently the light sensitivity of my mother has passed to me genetically. I can't believe what a difference the polarized lenses have made. When I get home at night I don't want to cry from the pain. I didn't even realize that I was squinting the entire time I was driving, because in my mind I had on glasses.

[Dave]

I'm a big fan of Claritin-D as well. It really is a godsend. Like Zen, i also have a friend who is currently in optometry school, and a crazier bastard you couldn't find, well you could find him and he sell spinal implants, and shows the doctors how to use them during surgery. This is a guy who used to take pictures of his best dumps and put them up on our refridgerator during college, and he is now wrists deep in some guys back. sheesh.

[By-tor]

This is a guy who used to take pictures of his best dumps and put them up on our refridgerator during college, and he is now wrists deep in some guys back. sheesh.
Be afraid, very afraid.

[Dave]

its true. I never knew that the guys who sold the equipment had to do the surgery, at least the first couple of times. I figured that the surgeons did all of that stuff, but nope at first its the salesguy.

[By-tor]

I want to know what the final scientific explanation is for why all meth users have teeth that fall out. Cocaine is a stimulant and that doesn't make your teeth fall out as a rule.
Scientifically speaking, too many blow jobs in lieu of payment.:p

[Zens7s]

Scientifically speaking, too many blow jobs in lieu of payment.:pI always pay and I give blow jobs for free! What kind of girl do you take me for.

Ummm, wait, I mean...Oh crap.

[Zen points to the celing]

Look over there!

[She sprints away the opposite direction]

[freetoaster]

George Bush senior holding his old teeth and acting weird.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/JeffWells/Bush-kids-in-bed.jpg

He is rumored to keep the "heart-shaped-box", as he likes to call it, on his person at all times.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/JeffWells/bush-pyramid-in-lap.jpg

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[laineylew]

i went to look at the "good thing it's firday" thread. well, i thought it said "good thing it's friday" and i didn't get the joke for about ten minutes. does anyone know if i may actually may be mildly dyslexic or did this happen to everyone else?
i wanna know.



Its possible you have a minor form of dyslexia. I tuotor children with learning disabilities. Luckily, a dyslexia in the low of a form can be more of a blessing than a curse. Dyslexia is when a person's brain has the ability to turn things around and switch them in a more complex manner. (for example, someone turning an 'r' backwards.) This can also be used in other things, such as turning around objects and it is a useful skill in many jobs. On the other hand, you may just be reading too quickly and superimposing the letters.



is it possible to have both ADD and ADHD? that is what some doctors are diagnosing in some kids. Could the combination be Aspberger's Syndrome in disguise?

Yes, it is possible to have both ADD and ADHD. It is s my diagnoses. At times I am totally zoned out and not paying attention, and at other I'm literally bouncing in place.

Asperger's Syndrome is a much more complex disorder, a low form of autism. People with the disorder have trouble in socail situations, and as well as other autistic problems. Although ADHD is not always AS, AS sufferers often have other disorders concurrently such as ADD or ADHD.



This goes back to an arguement I made in another thread- some parents want little adults that sit quietly and behave as if they were in fact little adults. The kids are just being kids, but the parents can't deal with that, so they take 'em to a doctor. Or worse, a teacher decides to prescribe drug therapy. The doctor and the drug companies of course, want to make money, so they diagnose ADD or ADHD and get the kids on a drug therapy program that turns the kids into zombies and makes the parents feel better about themselves, because one) they found a proactive solution to their problem, and two) they now have a well behaved child whom they can proudly display to all their friends. Not to mention the parents themselves are taking pills for anything and everything- Daddy's going bald, take some Propecia. Daddy can't get it up- take some Viagra. Mommy's feeling a little stressed out- take a Valium. Mommy's feeling a little depressed- take a Welbutrin. The kids are acting up? There must be a pill to cure it, because mommy and daddy fix everything with a pill. The solution to every problem can be found in a little yellow pill...
Now for the disclaimer: these are my opinions and I'm sure the parents will take issue with me and tell me I don't have a fucking clue...

Now, first off- I'm not a parent and not a teacher. I have ADD/ADHD, which, unfortunatly cause me to have dificulties functioning in a classroom situation. When I was younger I was hyperactive, but intelligent. Unfortuanatly, this caused me a lot of frustration because even though I had the ability to understand the material presented, I was unable to focus on it long enough to actually learn it. Medication has helped me, and still does today. On the other hand, I believe that ADD and ADHD are actual disorders highly overdiagnosed by frustrated parents and teachers whose students and children are not nessasarily ADD. Maybe this happened in your case, and if so I am sorry, but ADD is a real disorder and it is frustrating to deal with people who know one misdiagnosed people and write off the rest of the world as wrong. Aslso, all medications have side effects, but the important thing is to spend time with a qualified doctor who can work with the patient to find the right medication and dosage.

[Aaron]

People with the disorder have trouble in social situations.
Sounds like acid to me...

[JK]

...it is frustrating to deal with people who know one misdiagnosed people and write off the rest of the world as wrong...

What if I know a couple dozen people who were "misdiagnosed"?
Am I allowed to have my opinion then?





Regardless, I'm sticking by my guns- ADD/ADHD is a myth.

[FanGirl]

myth

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/3290/CarolKane_Cohen_5288920_400.jpg

Yes?

[laineylew]

Misdiagnoses of two or five or one hundred does not null a disorder. Doctors misdiagnose heart patients, and rare blood disorders alike. Psychological disorders are far more difficult to handle. The causes of ADD and the physiological symptoms are only just beginning to be discovered. Have you ever met a severely ADD or ADHD person? Some get up in the morning thinking “I’m going to have a great day today.” Then they spend the entire day struggling. Matt, a student from work, has nearly no impulse control. His brain does not think about an action before he acts. While I am tutoring him, he will suddenly decide to stand up on the chair. As soon as he’s done it, his brain actually processes the retribution of such actions, and he regrets them. He starts out thinking he’s going to have a good day, and every day he comes home angry and depressed because his ADHD makes it nearly impossible to simply control himself. He is in 5th grade, and he’s already been kicked out of public education. He is in a private school now, and he may feel alright about school, and he loves to learn, but he can’t enjoy it. Matt’s mother does not believe in medication, so he isn’t medicated. Not everyone diagnosed with ADD, often used as a “cure all,” have it. Go figure. Some do.
I have no problem with anyone having an opinion. I just hoped that maybe you could try looking at something in a different way instead of just focusing on the people who are misdiagnosed.

[JK]

I am not focusing on people who were misdiagnosed. I've researched this stuff for years and the conclusion I have drawn- which coincides with the conclusions of many, many health care providers- is that ADD/ADHD is a manufactured disorder.



Edit-

Let me add that I do know someone who was "diagnosed" with severe ADD/ADHD. He was a very focused guy with a lot going for him- music, art, etc. His family decided he needed some help because he had an episode with a girlfriend. The doctors decided he was ADD/ADHD and that he needed to be medicated. He does not do any music like he used to and the attempts at any other art are just lackluster at best. Now he's not only hooked on the scripts, he's doing all kinds of narcotics and alcohol and he uses ADD/ADHD as a crutch. I'm suprosed he isn't dead yet. Maybe an extreme example, but it is an example.

[laineylew]

I'm sorry you feel that way.

[laineylew]

I didn't ask for a misdiagnoses; I asked for a genuine person. It doesn't really matter though. I can respect that we obviously have extremely differing opinions. I suppose life goes on, and since I don’t really have to convince you about it, it’s not a big deal. It worries me that someone might believe you and act discriminately against me or one of my students, but I don’t expect you to change your mind.

[JK]

...It worries me that someone might believe you and act discriminately against me or one of my students...

Jesus wept, you make it sound like I'm gonna raise up a mindless, violent mob, arm them with torches and pitchforks and burn your schoolhouse down...


Why is it every one I meet who has been 'diagnosed' AD/ADHD claims victim-hood?

The only way they were victimized was when their parents and teachers looked for and found an easy way out when dealing with an active, inquisitive child.

[FanGirl]

Now, where did I hide my pitchfork?

Those who claim to be dislexic immediately throw up that flag the second someone says something they don't like. It's the "don't hit me because I wear glasses" or the "no tag backs" of the internet.

I really have a hard time believing people who say they have it when they wave it so proudly. Those people I know who actually have it, don't go advertising it around.

And FYI, just because you wear glasses, doesn't mean you can't be hit in the stomach.

[JK]

...And FYI, just because you wear glasses, doesn't mean you can't be hit in the stomach.


I always yell "NOT IN THE FACE!" right before I'm spitting out teeth and picking glass shards out of my eye...

[Asteban]

Funny this thread came up. My friend (who was diagnosed with ADD in like 1st grade and still takes a ritilin when he needs to get work done), thinks that I have Asperger's. He's not a doctor so I told him to go to hell, then I took some test thing online that's supposed to let you know if you potentially have it. I scored way above the average, but slightly below the "warning level." That means I win.

[acid_soda]

Holy shit this thread is old

Sounds like acid to me...

<3

[JK]

There seems to be someone lurking in this thread every time I check who's on line...

If you're coming to the Quickstop looking for information about dyslexia or ADD&D, you have more problems than you will ever know.

[acid_soda]

LOL I remember this thread

good times, good times