I'm bored.

[Tydyed Bandit]

Just thought I'd let you know.

[Mighty Wingman]

This is the worst post idea EVER , and you're not even the first person to do it. Instead of posting "I'm bored" go looking around the net for movie, music, pop-culture news, and share with the rest of us.You could read the MPS main site. You could visit a diary and see how milk is processed , you could visit your dentist and see how to improve your winning smile. You could kill and mutilate small, furry animals. You could test-drive a Harley. You could read a Book. Or do some sit-ups. You could lick your dog on the nose to see how he likes it. But whatever you do , don't come here and post "I'm Bored" that's the most pedantic waste of server space I can think of. For fuck sakes, are you 12 ?

How is saying "I'm bored" going to entertain anyone ? Do you think that passing the knowledge of your boredom entertains us ? C'mon, you can do better.

Entertain us, and we'll entertain you. The best way to confront boredom is to be entertaining.

[Tydyed Bandit]

Meh. Still bored.

BTW- You're mean.

[Tydyed Bandit]

Okay, I've thought about it a bit, and yeah, this was a pretty dumb idea for a thread.

Here's a try:

Does anyone else think it's wrong to have Liposuction in order to lose weight? I don't mean 'lose weight' as in, say, drop 150 pounds, as they won't even do that, but in my case, I weigh in at a hefty 400 lbs, +- ten, and I've decided to have lipo to get rid of the ol' Man boobs (gynocemastia, as they like to call it), and lose a portion of my gut. I'm doing it to give me the self confidence to finish the job myself, and to get a jump start on the weight loss. I've tried all sorts of diets, and considered gastric bypass surgery, but nothing has worked. ( I didn't have the GPS, I don't want to lose a bunch of weight and gain self esteem, only to have a horrible scar that will still make we want to hide beneath layers of clothing.

I'm having a personal moral dillema, as I always thought that lipo and things liek it were an easy way out, but at this point, it's too hard on my feet and back to start a rigourous excercise regime.

Thoughts?

P.S.- Fangirl- has the Batman thing worked out for you? I'm looking for something fun to do after the surgery that will help me lose the remaining weight.

[JK]

I'd only use surgery as a last resort. There are some low impact exercise to start out with, but any program is going to kick your ass the first few days. I've found that a lot of what goes into weight loss is self-discipline- sticking with a program and not giving in to the desire to deviate from the diet plan or to do a few less push-ups or whatever. But surgery, that's a big decision. Lipo might be 'routine', but it's still surgery. Whatever you do, good luck.

[Razorback]

Meh. Still bored.

BTW- You're mean.

He really is mean. Not nice, like me.

[Mighty Wingman]

Meh. Still bored.

BTW- You're mean.

The truth is, I care about keeping this place quality, but...If it's easier for you to believe that I am mean , rather than believe it's a bad idea to post "I'm bored" , then so be it. Here is some red paint with which, you can paint a target on yourself , I'll be over here loading the gun...

He really is mean. Not nice, like me.
You can't trust anything this guy says , he votes republican !

[Matthew]

Dieting and Excercise is the way to go, Lipo is the easy way out,

YOu said you want to do it to build self confidence, but I ask you:

How is it building any self confidence to let someone else do something for you quickly?

You build confidence by being disciplined enough to succeed in a given task, even if it takes a long time. In your case this would be losing weight.

[Tydyed Bandit]

Dieting and Excercise is the way to go, Lipo is the easy way out,

YOu said you want to do it to build self confidence, but I ask you:

How is it building any self confidence to let someone else do something for you quickly?

You build confidence by being disciplined enough to succeed in a given task, even if it takes a long time. In your case this would be losing weight.

Probably shouldn't have started this thread anyway, but I don't agree.

It would be giving me the confidence to be able to go to a gym and not be embarrased about how I look. It would let me sit down in a movie theater and not be spilling out over the arm rests. It would give me the confidence to approach a woman for a date or just to talk.

Perhaps you build confidence by being disciplined enough to suceed in a given task, but when you've tried for the past ten years to lose weight, and to succeed for a month or two at a time, only to have depression lead you back to the 'bad life', it's not that easy to say "just keep trying, you'll get confidence that way."

[Matthew]

Perhaps you build confidence by being disciplined enough to suceed in a given task, but when you've tried for the past ten years to lose weight, and to succeed for a month or two at a time, only to have depression lead you back to the 'bad life', it's not that easy to say "just keep trying, you'll get confidence that way."

This is the reason your confidence is missing, there is no perseverence.

[Tydyed Bandit]

This is the reason your confidence is missing, there is no perseverence.

IF you had any idea who I was in real life, I'd tell you to shut your stupid fucking mouth, as you have no idea what you're talking about.

But since you don't know me, I'll just say that I no longer require your input on the question I posted.

[Matthew]

I know it is hard, I have been in situations where I think I could never do it. I have been depressed, and not succeeding. I am giving my life experiences here.

I have been there! For me it was not weight, but other issues. I tried many different ways, and many different times to change, and it kept getting worse, and depressing.

It did not change in me until I forced myself to do it. The month would pass, the depression hit again, and instead of giving in to the depression, I FORCED myself to keep on. This is how I gained self-confidence, through perseverence.

Yes, I do know what I am talking about, and I know how you feel. I in no means was slamming you at all! I was actually trying to help. Sorry I struck a nerve!

[TLS]

Does anyone else think it's wrong to have Liposuction in order to lose weight?
I don't think it's wrong to have it done, I just think that it's wrong that society has made people think that they need it. Our expectations of ourselves are hung so high. People judge themselves and others based on what is seen on the television and not from the REAL people around them.
It sounds like you know what you want and your reasoning seems to show that. I just find it sad that the phrase 'beauty is within' doesn't work to build confidence in people. The only advice I can really give is to research the procedure and the doctor who will be performing this.

[jjcourtright]

While gastric bypass is pretty intrusive surgery, the next generation - lap-band (http://www.lap-band.com/) sugery is not. My mom had it done - needlessly if you ask me, but that is probably a story for the "My mom has gone crazy" thread - and has dropped probably 70 pounds. It is laparoscopic, so you have small incisions, rather than the large scar-leaving ones that you are worried about. Unlike in gastric bypass where they remove part of your intestine in addition to changing the size of your stomach, lap-band surgery only changes the size of your stomach, so it is a reversible procedure. Plus it is adjustable.

[Zens7s]

While gastric bypass is pretty intrusive surgery, the next generation - lap-band (http://www.lap-band.com/) sugery is not. My mom had it done - needlessly if you ask me, but that is probably a story for the "My mom has gone crazy" thread - and has dropped probably 70 pounds. It is laparoscopic, so you have small incisions, rather than the large scar-leaving ones that you are worried about. Unlike in gastric bypass where they remove part of your intestine in addition to changing the size of your stomach, lap-band surgery only changes the size of your stomach, so it is a reversible procedure. Plus it is adjustable.My mother works for a bariatric surgeon, who does both lap band and gastric. The doctor no longer wants to perform gastric bypass because so many people still find a way to overeat and cause themselves serious physical harm. Like JJ said, the lap band is reversible...so if you get pregnant and need it loosened, or gain some back and need it tightened they just give you a saline injection in your side and it adjusts.

However, my mom is the only one that works there who has not had the surgery. While she says it works, really all it does is make it so painful to misbehave you are forced to have the willpower. You cannot drink liquids at the same time as you eat because you fill up too fast. You also have to avoid anything with carbonation. At the end, lap band leaves less of the loose skin problem than gastric, but most still have to have many cosmetic surgeries to remove the excess. With slow weight loss from working out you don't seem to have as many of these problems.

Either way, I think it's important to do what you feel is right.

[jjcourtright]

It's pretty weird to see my mom eat a meal now. Granted she is a Courtright by marriage, not by blood, so I wouldn't expect her to have two beers and two glasses of water with a meal like the rest of the family does; it is just strange to see somebody go through a meal without taking a drink.

[Zens7s]

It's pretty weird to see my mom eat a meal now. Granted she is a Courtright by marriage, not by blood, so I wouldn't expect her to have two beers and two glasses of water with a meal like the rest of the family does; it is just strange to see somebody go through a meal without taking a drink.It freaks my mom out. She says all anyone ever talks about at work is food, still. So they go out and they eat in such strange patterns and then belch a lot because stuff gets stuck.

My mom isn't exactly prissy, and it if bothers her it must be pretty bad!

[jjcourtright]

"Freak out" is a pretty good way to describe it. She'll order a full meal, eat five bites, and then sit there while the rest of us continue to eat. A normal meal out would take her like six sittings to polish off. Instead, she spends the same amount on her meal as we do, but only eats 1/6 of it.

[Zens7s]

"Freak out" is a pretty good way to describe it. She'll order a full meal, eat five bites, and then sit there while the rest of us continue to eat. A normal meal out would take her like six sittings to polish off. Instead, she spends the same amount on her meal as we do, but only eats 1/6 of it.Mom says they are always trying to get her to order what they want so they can split the cost.

And they can't drink beer! Egads!

[jjcourtright]

Wha?...don't do it Tydied Bandit.

[Droogan_Leader]

IF you had any idea who I was in real life, I'd tell you to shut your stupid fucking mouth, as you have no idea what you're talking about.

But since you don't know me, I'll just say that I no longer require your input on the question I posted.
Dude, I don't think he was trying to hurt your feelings. Truly though, you do have to make it a lot longer than 1 or 2 months to make it last. I know the first month for me was the hardest. It's all about routine though.

If you want to lose weight, why not do what I did: I wanted to do two things:

1. Lose weight
2. Gain muscle mass

I could not do both at the same time without getting skewed results on the scales, and I hate going to the gym, so I decided to find a diet that was both healthy and that allowed me to lose weight without doing any kind of exercise. I did: all I did was cut sugar out of my diet. That meant during the first month that I ate everything else, hot dogs, pork rinds, you name it, however much saturated fat it had in it, to get me through the initial phase of sugar addiction. I made it too. I lost about 50 lbs, and I've kept it off for almost 2 years now. You can do it, but it takes a long time to do the right way--it took me (doing it the healthy way) about a year before I was near my goal weight, and that was losing 1-2 lbs/week. If you're a lot more overweight than that, it will take longer, but it's worth it.

Oh, and I can talk, because I'm formerly fat, and both my brothers have followed in my footsteps and succeeded. My younger brother used to be 350 lbs, so really heavy guys can do it too. It is, whether you want to hear it right now (and bud, I know it's hard, trust me), about your willpower. How much do you want to like what you see in the mirror?

..And all you have to do is just cut back on the sugar. Mind you, a lot of things have sugar (even fruit), so you have to be careful how you get it. You do need some sugar, but stay away from fast food, fruit juices (eat fruit, don't drink the juice), soda, donuts, cookies, all the stuff your mom told you to not eat too much of. Drink a lot of water. Cut back on caffeine--it gives you hunger cravings. Read the South Beach Diet and the Sugar Busters Diet. Look up the glycemic index and see what has a lot of sugar and how much, and what doesn't. Bananas, for example, like pineapples, are loaded. Oh, and once you start losing weight at a pretty steady pace, I'd start walking. You don't have to go to the gym to do that, and you do need to start exercising at some point, so you don't have a lot of excess flabby skin when you've finally succeeded. The ball really is in your court, man. You aren't helpless, no matter how much so you may feel.

Oh, and now that I've lost pretty much all the weight I want to, and am all I want to be that way, I looked for a job where I get plenty of exercise (since I'm too lazy to go to the gym): I'm driving a truck, lifting about 4,000 lbs. each day, and plenty of walking in there too. I'm in the best shape of my life, because I decided I wanted it bad enough. Remember that epic line from T2, "No Fate But What We Make." It's up to you, my friend.

I'll tell you what though, it is so freakin' nice to be able to go up and talk to any girl, any time I want, and start flirting with her without even thinking twice about how I look--because I know deep down now, it's sunk in, that I am all I want to be. You can't buy that, man--you can't replace it with anything. Remember that the next time you're staring down a Big Mac.

[Tydyed Bandit]

Yes, I do know what I am talking about, and I know how you feel. I in no means was slamming you at all! I was actually trying to help. Sorry I struck a nerve!

1. Possibly.

2. DEfinately not.

3. You did. Leave it alone now.

[dress_sexy_at_my_funeral]

I like you mr.bandit your funny even when your feelings are hurt :D (smile for your funnyness not your feelings being hurt).

[FanGirl]

Having gone through this decision and having been 100 over weight (now only 65 to go) allow me to impart what I now know. It doesn't make a difference at all which method you use if you have not got your head together. You need to make the decision in your brain first and then the body comes next. Otherwise, you'll put all of the weight back on. You need to understand the psychology of what got you to that size in the first place and if it's a physcial reason you need to talk to your doctor because having surgery won't fix that.

Once you make the decision to change, finding the right diet and the right exercise program for you will work to lose all the weight. Different diets work for different people, but if you don't make the decision in your head than you won't stick to anything and essentially (excluding physcial reasons) that's all you really need is discipline. If you say that that isn't the case that you have all the discipline in the world and nothing changes, then you need to talk to the doc. If he/she says that there is no reason that you should not be losing weight, then suck it up and work harder.

You need to know why you are doing this. If you think that losing all that weight will give you instant confidence, I can tell you it won't. You will see in the mirror all the changes you still need to make if you haven't gotten your brain right. If you think that you'll start dating more, I can also tell you that won't instantly happen either. Again speaking from experience, I've had the same lack of dates heavy as I do do now. If you think you will have more energy and your health will be better, I can give you a resounding HELLS YEA IT DOES. My cholestrol dropped 70 points to say the least.

It all boils down to you and what your ready to do. If you go ahead and do this, you need to know that you will have the discipline to continue to work out and eat right. You need to know you won't lie in bed at 6a and rationalize that you don't need to get up and go to the gym because you are already thinner than what you were so missing a day won't kill you. Otherwise, this will all be for nought not to mention the effect your body wille endure dropping that much weight that quickly. You didn't put it on that quickly, logic would dictate you shouldn't lose it that quickly.

I have debated on every issue myself and tried every diet. Nothing worked until I decided it was time. My issues with my weight were for reasons I now understand and it is not something I can every go back to.

Truer words have never been spoken that what Morpheus says to Neo in the first Matrix "There is a difference between knowing the path and walking it."

[Tydyed Bandit]

Thanks for all the good advice, Fangirl, and I realized about a month ago that this was the time to do it, and have been working out and eating right since then, and I had always said that I wouldn't get any surgery untill I was committed to doing it right, which is why I've waited so long.

I might still look into the lap-band some more, though. I went to one clinic that did that and the gastric bypass, and they were really rude and made me feel uncomfortable about the whole process, which is what turned me off to it.

[Zens7s]

Thanks for all the good advice, Fangirl, and I realized about a month ago that this was the time to do it, and have been working out and eating right since then, and I had always said that I wouldn't get any surgery untill I was committed to doing it right, which is why I've waited so long.

I might still look into the lap-band some more, though. I went to one clinic that did that and the gastric bypass, and they were really rude and made me feel uncomfortable about the whole process, which is what turned me off to it.Even though you won't be getting the process done here, you are always welcome to give my mother a call at her office and get the information you need. I can guarantee that she won't be rude like those jerks you talked about above. Also, the surgeon she works for is not only brilliant and kind, but he and his wife both have lap bands themselves, so they know more than anyone the realities of the choice. They wouldn't mind helping you to find a good center...they do it all the time for people who are not in the area.

If you decide you want to speak with them just send me a PM and I will give you the office contact information and numbers and tell her to expect a call from you. :)

[FanGirl]

How much have you lost then since you started working out and eating right?

[Tydyed Bandit]

~17-18 lbs and climbing.

[FanGirl]

So if you're losing then why get the surgery?

[Tydyed Bandit]

Some of it is to lose some lb's quick, but it's mainly to remove the extra skin that I have, as none of the docs I've spoken to have said that the skin will retract.

Like I said, I'm still debating all of this, surgery or not,a nd what kind if I do...

[FanGirl]

I disagree with the whole losing it fast part. Like I said before, you didn't put it on that fast, you shouldn't lose it that fast. The absolute key to the whole skin issue is water. Water keeps your skin elasticy (if that's a word). My trainer dropped from 435 to 240 naturally over four years and he didn't have any issue with the skin. You should be drinking about 1.5-2 gallons of water every day.

[Zens7s]

I disagree with the whole losing it fast part. Like I said before, you didn't put it on that fast, you shouldn't lose it that fast. The absolute key to the whole skin issue is water. Water keeps your skin elasticy (if that's a word). My trainer dropped from 435 to 240 naturally over four years and he didn't have any issue with the skin. You should be drinking about 1.5-2 gallons of water every day.That is very good advice. The other thing about the lapband is it will force you to lose weight VERY slowly. Often it takes a lot longer to drop the weight than if you exercise and eat well. The only thing it really does is force you to stop eating by making you violently ill for overdoing it.

They are correct when they told you the skin issue won't be fixed by lapband.

[dcfan]

Okay, to the guy thats overweight. I recently gained a few extra pounds, but I worked my butt off and lost them. Yeah, it sucks, and feels like its not doin anything, but it takes time. i understand about the lipo, but use it as a last option!
To the guy doin the "Im bored" post, great idea! Look at how many replies youve got. Obviously not as bad of an idea as some assumed.
Finally, Dashboard Connfessional rocks! I recently broke up with my girlfriend of 2 1/2 years, and couldnt make it without them. Rock on!

[ozchick]

At the risk of pissing anyone off I have to say that I'm SOOOOO Bored! Not bored in the way that I have nothing to do, but bored in that I have shitloads to do but no inclination to do it. I appear to have a case of Fridayitis. Thank god its firday! ;) 6 Hours till beer o'clock....

btw - Karma: good to see you back! Where ya been mate?

[acid_soda]

was that "firday" you typed a ruse to make me think I'm dyslexic again, or was it a simple typographical error?

just wanting to know.

[ozchick]

It was intentional but not to make you think you're dyslexic. My poor attempt at a joke is all.

[Matthew]

. My poor attempt at a joke is all. You at least spent a penny!