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ILovePapaSmurf
05-24-2005, 03:13 PM
So, I get out of the shower today, turn on the morning news and I a news report on some parents bitching about the new Paris Hilton/Carl's Jr. commercial. They say the commerical is soft core porn and that no one washes a car in a bathing suit and I can't help but think, why this commercial is causing such an uproar. I don't think it is that bad of a commercial. Granted it doesn't get me hot, nor does it make me crave a hamburger from Carl's Jr., but it isn't that bad of a commercial. Parents of this conservative group in LA are trying to get the FCC to see if this commercial should be allowed to air on tv, but if they are trying to fight to get this commerical off air because it is so 'graphic' then why aren't other shows getting pushed to the FCC?

So, basically I made this topic to get your thoughts about this commercial and if this should go to the FCC or not.

Thank you.

FanGirl
05-24-2005, 03:24 PM
I haven't seen the commerical yet, but it can't be any hotter than the one of the girl eating the burger on the mechanical bull. I mean even I, as a straight girl, acknowledged the heat off that commerical.

The FCC should draw one line and not lines on a case by case basis.

highriskrc
05-24-2005, 03:28 PM
If it is on network broadcasting than you can pretty much rest asssured that the FCC will get involved.... I take it Carl's Jr. is a localized resturaunt chain b/c where I live hardly anyone has heard of it. If it is not local, then they just must not have it where I have traveled, which is primarily on the east coast. If they broadcast it on cable, the FCC really can't do shit about it.... other wise... it think that it's just a bunch of ultra-conservative nutjobs that have no business talking about it.... probably the same people who watched the Super Bowl and got pissed about Janet's boobie popping out inbetween the beer and viagra commercials.

TomHarrington
05-24-2005, 03:29 PM
I haven't seen the ad either, but I'd like to hear more about your shower. I don't think the FCC is reading, so be as detailed as you like. :)

Matt1
05-24-2005, 03:36 PM
Yeah, I heard about this little uproar too. What struck me as strange, was that I had always heard Carl's was a very conservative company. That they donated money to pro-choice groups and such. Maybe that's just an urban legend, I had never really cared enough to check, but if not it casts a strange light on this whole thing. I'll do some fact-checking.

Denyse
05-24-2005, 03:36 PM
While I'm not a prude (far from it) I think this commercial along with most of the Carl's Jr. commercials, is in poor taste. Is it porn? I don't think I'd go that far, but I don't know if I'd want my 11-13 year old son watching it either. It's a little over the top from a sexual innuendo standpoint, but the larger issue for me is that people think Paris Hilton is someone to be emulated. That said, I'm bothered far more by the CJ commercial with the "In-Utero-baby" telling his mom (via sonogram) to stop eating spicy food or he's taking something with him on the way out (said while tugging on his umbilical cord). Frankly, I think they need a new advertising company, not an FCC hearing. If parents are all up in arms about what their kids see on TV, there's a button on it that will solve their problems. It's called an "off" switch. It should be used more.

Dave
05-24-2005, 03:41 PM
True dat. We don't have Carl's Jr.on the east coast but it's the same company as Hardee's so some of their commercials (like the bull one) get aired out here with a different logo on it. I wouldn't eat at one, if only because they had Paris Hilton in the ad, but it's really no different than a thousand other sexy ads out there. I think it's a slow news day or something, because that smacks of someone making a fuss just to see if they can get a reaction.

JK
05-24-2005, 03:41 PM
http://tbs.com/stories/story/0,,49762,00.html

You can't even download the 60 second director's cut until 10pm...

(I know I pimped it in another thread, but damn!)

Denyse
05-24-2005, 04:02 PM
Yeah, I heard about this little uproar too. What struck me as strange, was that I had always heard Carl's was a very conservative company. That they donated money to pro-choice groups and such. Maybe that's just an urban legend, I had never really cared enough to check, but if not it casts a strange light on this whole thing. I'll do some fact-checking.

No, it's true. The founder of Carl's Jr. is very pro-life having adopted multiple times (he has 12 children, 48 grandchildren and 21 great-grandchildren) and ultra-conservative. His brother used to be in charge until he died in the early 90's, and they installed new directorship that took the company the other way entirely...as evidenced by the advertising campaigns over the last few years

cberquist
05-24-2005, 04:09 PM
Since I bought a Tivo, I haven't had to sit through a single commercial (except during live sporting events). Best money I have ever spent. I find it very difficult to watch regular TV broadcasts where I can't just FF through the commercial.

ILovePapaSmurf
05-24-2005, 04:12 PM
I haven't seen the commerical yet, but it can't be any hotter than the one of the girl eating the burger on the mechanical bull. I mean even I, as a straight girl, acknowledged the heat off that commerical.

The FCC should draw one line and not lines on a case by case basis.
Fanny, the commercial is at carlsjr.com

There is a 60 second spot and a link is provided on that website as well.

TomHarrington
05-24-2005, 04:30 PM
Fanny, the commercial is at carlsjr.com

There is a 60 second spot and a link is provided on that website as well.

Okay, so now I saw it. Aside from having to see Paris Hilton on TV again, I don't understand why anyone would be outraged.

ILovePapaSmurf
05-24-2005, 04:35 PM
I haven't seen the ad either, but I'd like to hear more about your shower. I don't think the FCC is reading, so be as detailed as you like. :)

For some reason I didn't see this post before, so I will reply now. Let's just say it involved soap and a detachable shower head.

TomHarrington
05-24-2005, 04:51 PM
Let's just say it involved soap and a detachable shower head.

I just assumed you were ignoring me for being a loser, and it would've been deserved.

But thanks. I have a good imagination and enjoyed that way more than the Hilton ad. I'll bet the water was hot, too.

ILovePapaSmurf
05-24-2005, 05:02 PM
I just assumed you were ignoring me for being a loser, and it would've been deserved.

But thanks. I have a good imagination and enjoyed that way more than the Hilton ad. I'll bet the water was hot, too.

You aren't a loser. Don't think that about yourself.

And I am glad that I could help with your enjoyment. I am very good with my hands. I got an A in typing. :)

Matt1
05-24-2005, 05:34 PM
No, it's true. The founder of Carl's Jr. is very pro-life having adopted multiple times (he has 12 children, 48 grandchildren and 21 great-grandchildren) and ultra-conservative. His brother used to be in charge until he died in the early 90's, and they installed new directorship that took the company the other way entirely...as evidenced by the advertising campaigns over the last few years
Yeah, I found this (http://www.snopes.com/business/alliance/domino.asp) on the Urban Legends reference page. Will this stop me from patronizing either establishment? Not until their food starts tasting bad. Mmmm... double-western.

Gotherella
05-24-2005, 06:28 PM
It depends when they're showing it -- if it's attached to anything on Spike TV or late at night, no problem, but if that shows up on Nickelodeon, they've crossed the line.


You can only get to the power button on the remote so fast...

actualsize
05-24-2005, 09:03 PM
My kids like Hey, Spring of Trivia. The show itself is mostly tame, but the Girls Gone Wild Ads that Spike runs on that show mean we have to be really fast with the Tivo - which means we have to watch it with them.

This happens a lot on other networks too, especially on Fox. The show itself might be OK, but the ads or network promos they run might cross the line - and a parent can't predict those. This Carls ad falls in the same category. The ad may be one you don't want your kids to see (or not) but you don't know it's coming. Therefore the "switch it off" option only works if you decide to never watch any commercial TV.

Matt1
05-24-2005, 09:48 PM
My kids like Hey, Spring of Trivia. The show itself is mostly tame, but the Girls Gone Wild Ads that Spike runs on that show mean we have to be really fast with the Tivo - which means we have to watch it with them.
At least you're trying to cope with it in an intelligent and responsible manner. I get the feeling that alot of the people who complain to the FCC are just lazy parents who don't want to have to shoulder the responsibility of supervising what their kids watch. The rest are just your run of the mill scolds.
This happens a lot on other networks too, especially on Fox. The show itself might be OK, but the ads or network promos they run might cross the line - and a parent can't predict those. This Carls ad falls in the same category. The ad may be one you don't want your kids to see (or not) but you don't know it's coming. Therefore the "switch it off" option only works if you decide to never watch any commercial TV.
I feel for you and parents like you, I truly do. What we need though is some kind of V-chip like device which could screen commercials, or some other individualistic way for parents to deal with them, rather then imposing on the FCC.

psychofiend
05-24-2005, 10:46 PM
I feel for you and parents like you, I truly do. What we need though is some kind of V-chip like device which could screen commercials, or some other individualistic way for parents to deal with them, rather then imposing on the FCC.
What we really need is a chip implanted in kids heads that says "do not think thinking is wrong." This V-chip bullshit is idiotic. My theory is that kids will eventually see and hear these things and they should therefore see/hear these things on TV where it is not harmful. All these people who say that kids shouldn't see things such as commercials are taking it a little too far. I don't think that I have ever seen a commercial in my life that went above a PG rating. I admit that there are some things which are too extreme for kids, most shows rated TV-MA for instance are too much for little kids. The only shows i have in mind when i say that are Sopranos, Wonder Showzen and South Park. These shows are on later anyway though. Parents who don't want their kids to see vulgar things on TV should just not get cable and suffer with their kids.

actualsize
05-24-2005, 11:40 PM
All these people who say that kids shouldn't see things such as commercials are taking it a little too far. I don't think that I have ever seen a commercial in my life that went above a PG rating. I admit that there are some things which are too extreme for kids, most shows rated TV-MA for instance are too much for little kids.

Your opinion will change, my young friend, when you become a parent. I have a six year old daughter, who parrots what she see's on TV [and quite well, I might add]. I don't think I want her going to school and showing her non-existant rack whilst licking her lips to the 1st grade class. And she'd do it, too. She heard Right Said Fred once, ONCE, and now she's "Too sexy" for everything. So for her, Spike TV is out, because Girls Gone Wild (if it gives you wood, it's not PG) is every other ad.

And Fox is famous for putting gruesome news promos during fairly tame shows. Or promos for other shows that I would not let her watch. And don't get me started about the "Bob" and Viagra ads. "Dad, what's Viagra for? Why is Bob smiling so much? Why is his wife smiling so much?" She's a little kid. You just don't notice it because of where you are in life.

Dude, I'm just trying to keep her off the pole.

Matt1
05-25-2005, 12:08 AM
What we really need is a chip implanted in kids heads that says "do not think thinking is wrong." This V-chip bullshit is idiotic.
The V-chip is one of the best ideas ever. Some parents don't want their children watching certain things. That is totally their right. I'd much rather they have a device within their own TV that enables them to control their children's viewing habits, then have them campaigning to control everyone else's.

psychofiend
05-25-2005, 07:22 AM
The V-chip is one of the best ideas ever. Some parents don't want their children watching certain things. That is totally their right. I'd much rather they have a device within their own TV that enables them to control their children's viewing habits, then have them campaigning to control everyone else's.
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Robbo_the_Hood
05-25-2005, 10:53 AM
What we really need is a chip implanted in kids heads that says "do not think thinking is wrong." This V-chip bullshit is idiotic. . .I don't think that I have ever seen a commercial in my life that went above a PG rating . . . . Parents who don't want their kids to see vulgar things on TV should just not get cable and suffer with their kids.
Someone missed the point of that particular v-chip. However, with your own defense of all things broadcast, including advertising, maybe someone needs to have their MTV taken away from them.

RobinHoodDaffy
05-25-2005, 01:22 PM
On an aside, shouldn't someone be happy that Paris Hilton at least is finally eating SOMETHING? That girl has looked like she needed a burger for some time.

Robbo_the_Hood
05-25-2005, 01:28 PM
What do you mean she's not eating? I saw this one thing she was in where she was clearly enjoying a tube steak.

ratm1966
05-25-2005, 01:52 PM
What do you mean she's not eating? I saw this one thing she was in where she was clearly enjoying a tube steak.
I've seen that show too. It wasn't very good quality though.

psychofiend
05-25-2005, 09:37 PM
Someone missed the point of that particular v-chip. However, with your own defense of all things broadcast, including advertising, maybe someone needs to have their MTV taken away from them.
Only thing I've watched on MTV in the past year is Wonder Showzen, and i watched it because someone told me it was funny, so i figured meh, what the heck? And that is why i watch that one show on MTV. I like to listen to my music and not the stuff on the radio or TV.

actualsize
05-28-2005, 06:15 PM
Outide of Society is where I wanna be So we loaded up the truck and we moved to Beverly...

Azraelle
05-28-2005, 08:45 PM
My boss was watching I don't know what on TV and they described the commercial as: "She washes a car and then herself in ways not normally known to those who wash cars and themselves... she then proceeds to molest a hamburger..." For some reason, I thought it was funny.