I watched "25th Hour" and "Adaptation"...

[JonS]

...and surprisingly, they both had very dissappointing endings.
In 25th hour i was expecting something wierd or cool to happen in that typical edward norton style but you just get a voice-over by his dad.
I liked adaptation alot better, but at the end the whole feel of the movie went out the window like poof. i think nic cage is one of the greatest, if not THE greatest, actor alive today..... but alligators? Don't get me wrong, spike jonez is a good director and the whole life-imitates-art thing going on was cool....but alligators? i didn't see the point.

just venting out some thoughts.

[Razorback]

Don't you just hate it when movies don't follow that predictable or conventional formula of ending movies in a manner that we all know, love and expect?

The nerve of film makers!

RB

[SecretArt]

you know what really annoys me....films you have to watch more than once because they didn't make sense the first time round /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

[Razorback]

oh i no i so hate tha plus i Cant sTand when a movie makes me hav 2 reed riting on the botum of da screan cuz they r talkin in sum other langwige and [censored] dont u think so 2 oh and jay and silent bob are da cooolness shizznit boyyyy snootchies bootchies

[Efexeye]

ROFLMAO

[Robbo_the_Hood]

You know, if you can't post anything intelligent you should just die. [censored]' die.

[Zens_7s]

I enjoyed 25th Hour, and the ending didn't bother me. The thing that stuck in my head was how slow it developed. I kept waiting for something major to occur and it didn't. Did you watch any of the deleted scenes? I was disappointed to note they cut what could have been the best scene in the movie. "Sway" explained why Monty sold drugs, and why a person gets involved in illegal activity. Note: not for the money, but for power.

For a Spike Lee movie, he didn't build to a big finish like normal. I am going to stick with Summer of Sam as being a much better drama.

[Robbo_the_Hood]

I thought 25th Hour was extremely dated. In ten years we are going to look back on that movie and laugh ourselves silly, especially at all that drugged out, souless, zombie music playing at the club. I was also disappointed that nothing else happened with Anna Paquin's character after the bathroom. I would have like to at least seen her leave the club all freaked out or something. It was pointless to build that up and not have anything happen afterwards.

However, the seen with Barry Pepper and Phillip Seyemore Hoffman when they are in Pepper's apartment is phenominal. That's over five minutes of dialogue and they don't cut away once. That's acting, and I love that stuff.

[Razorback]

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Hey... I am sure you will send a whiney note to the admins here about it and beg that they arrest my posting privileges.

RB

[Zens_7s]

Gentlemen, Gentlemen, Gentlemen; it is time to kiss and make up!

In response to JonS's original post...

Jon has a point about the alligators in Adaptation. Why alligators? Heck, Laroche and Orlean were traipsing around the swamps for days before, and suddenly the alligators show up hungry? Then I rethought the whole alligator thing. Adding gratuitous violence and unnecessary alligators is the point. Charlie had absorbed a bit of Donald's love for senseless action. (Not that I am implying that Donald was a real individual, which is a whole other topic.)

For example, my favorite line from the movie:
[i]Charlie Kaufman: "I don't want to cram in sex or guns or car chases or characters learning profound life lessons or growing or coming to like each other or overcome obstacles to succeed in the end. The book isn't like that, and life isn't like that, it just isn't."

Donald Kaufman: "I'm putting in a chase sequence. So the killer flees on horseback with the girl, the cop's after them on a motorcycle and it's like a battle between motors and horses, like technology vs. horse."
Or...
Donald Kaufman: "The killer, the girl, and the cop all have split-personalities! They're all the same person! Isn't that [censored] up?"

Charlie may have protested all those things, but in the end all of them happen. Donald and Charlie are the perfect compliment to each other. For all the wonderful voice-overs of Charlie, we have the alligators of “I got shot! Isn't that [censored] up?” Donald.

On a side note, I have to love this movie. Seeing Meryl Streep turn into a full-on green-coke snorting whore is aces in my book!

[DangerSeeker]

My take on the last half hour was that up until Charlie hands Donald the script, where he got stuck, the movie was very anti-convention. THen Don gets it, and I'm thinking Charlie was really the one who died, so Don just started pretending he was Charlie. All of the conventions Don liked got tacked onto the end, Don gets screen credit, the whole dilly.

[Robbo_the_Hood]

should I have used an emoticon to imply irony?

[Razorback]

You could have done that but it would have been incorrect since it wasn't ironic. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

RB

[psychofiend]

Adaptation was an awesome flick with some really good acting and unlike Being John Malkovich it was also funny. I loved Being John Malkovich but really who was laughing??

[johnbamforth]

ive watched both as well liking adaptation more but i do believe these movies arent in the same leauge as such movies as alien or even jurassic park