Star Wars shatters one-day franchise world record [Archive]

marksiwel

09-23-2004, 12:14 AM

My girlfriend is coming into town from Austin just to pick up Star Wars and see me, I guess.

Get this though, she wont let me watch them untill AFTER her roommate and her watch them. Instead WE are going to watch Alias Season 3 Friday and Sat.

Also to make Razorback feel as if he is not all alone, My girlfriend prefers Lucas changing things as well.

Razorback

09-23-2004, 12:28 AM

Can I have her number?

Matthew

09-23-2004, 12:47 AM

1-900-244-8487

Razorback

09-23-2004, 01:01 AM

No, not your mom's number.

FanGirl

09-23-2004, 10:57 AM

That's not very impressive. Of course, it's going to smash all records. It's Star Wars.

Now if Gigli broke all records, that would be impressive.

Razorback

09-23-2004, 11:11 AM

Of course it is going to do well? But... but, it is Star Wars! Everyone knows it sucks! I don't understand... how can it make tons of money if everyone hates it?

FanGirl

09-23-2004, 11:41 AM

Let's see how a box set of the prequels do when Lucas further alters them in a few years time.

Affleckie

09-23-2004, 12:16 PM

It makes me all fuzzy inside.

starwarssucks

09-23-2004, 04:06 PM

thank you every one know starwars sucks it souldnt make money with all the money it made we could feed like 4 3rd world countrys /forums/images/icons/confused.gif

jjcourtright

09-23-2004, 04:23 PM

You know what else sucks? Punctuation and capital letters. They're so [censored] stupid.

Affleckie

09-23-2004, 04:26 PM

Actually, I didn't know... but the bold text forced me to pay attention and now I do know.

So, thank YOU.

Droogan_Leader

09-23-2004, 05:46 PM

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Actually, I didn't know... but the bold text forced me to pay attention and now I do know.

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Isn't that weird? The bold lettering just sucked me right in too! /forums/images/icons/smirk.gif I am so convinced.

Razorback

09-23-2004, 05:55 PM

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Let's see how a box set of the prequels do when Lucas further alters them in a few years time.

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There will not be a prequel box set. It will be a saga box set.

Omaru

09-23-2004, 09:03 PM

And not to side with RB, but lucas wouldn't do that since the current technology is adequate enough to show things how he intended them to be. But I don't care much for the franchise, bring on Indy 4!!!!!!!

Razorback

09-24-2004, 05:16 AM

Depending on who you believe, Indy 4 may or may not happen. I believe it will but that we won't see it until 2006.

As for the prequel Special Editions... they will happen. However, there will not be anything like with the originals. It will mostly be to add scenes back in that were left off for the theatrical release because the movies were running long and to fix Yoda in TPM ( and maybe even enhance him in AOTC).

DarthMaulRat

09-26-2004, 01:26 AM

Any chance that they're going to fix the reverse orchestra surrounds problem in the near future? I know it's one of those problems that only bothers .01% of people, but I happen to be one of those persons.

Razorback

09-26-2004, 01:29 AM

They say it is intentional. If they "fix" it then it will not be before 2007.

ratm1966

09-27-2004, 05:01 PM

Okay, I did a slow-mo and Solo shot second.

Okay, that was just a random thought.

Razorback

09-27-2004, 06:28 PM

Yes, of course he shoots second. I have no idea what these two fine ladies are smoking. /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

ZyronDrazil

09-27-2004, 06:42 PM

I know this has nothing to do with the subject, but it does have to do with Star Wars.

Did anybody realize that Luke's first words in the movie, were.. in a winey voice: "But I wanted to get some power converters!" I just thought it was funny, cuz the fate of the universe rests on his shoulders.

Razorback

09-27-2004, 06:46 PM

His dad is a big whiner too...

Affleckie

09-27-2004, 10:00 PM

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Okay, I did a slow-mo and Solo shot second.

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Glad I'm not the only one who did that...

marksiwel

09-27-2004, 10:09 PM

I think we all did that.

ZyronDrazil

09-27-2004, 10:14 PM

Wow so bitching runs in the family? Now that I think of it.. Princess Leia bitched a lot as well. Man... I never realized this before...

karmattack

09-28-2004, 08:32 AM

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I think we all did that.

[/ QUOTE ] Add me to the list.

ratm1966

09-30-2004, 09:39 PM

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Glad I'm not the only one who did that...

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That was the first thing I did after I popped in the DVD.

Matt1

10-04-2004, 06:54 PM

So, I just now popped in the fourth disc.

VADER! /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

Dave

10-05-2004, 02:10 PM

I ran across this (http://weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/704jyoti.asp) article about the new box set, the author raises some interesting points.
Razor, you don't want to read it. As the Sherriff says in Monster Plantation at Six Flags over Georgia, "Don't Go Into the Swamp!"

Razorback

10-05-2004, 02:55 PM

I don't fear a difference of opinion. I can also agree that Lucas released the DVD's now so that he could sell them again later on a newer format. However, it is not the only reason. It is a great tool for keeping Star Wars in the minds of the public and to advertise Episode III.

I don't see a problem with it... someone working on these DVD's already said that the plan for a future release is to include only original extras and nothing from this set. Plus, I would rather have them now and then again in three years than wait three years to have them on DVD at all.

Dave

10-05-2004, 03:18 PM

i wasn't concerned so much about that, as the guys views on all the "changes", besides i knew that by baiting you, i would probably get you to read it.

You do have to love the title of the article though. I can't believe that no one else thought of it. "Pray he doesn't alter them any further"

Razorback

10-05-2004, 03:19 PM

I hope he alters them even more.

Dave

10-05-2004, 03:36 PM

now you're just being spiteful. /forums/images/icons/mad.gif
Honestly i don't care if he takes out all the actors and replaces them with CGI Shmoos, but i wish that he would offer the choice of having the original film.

Razorback

10-05-2004, 03:43 PM

I am not being spiteful. I mean it. There are things I want to see altered. I enjoy most of the changes/enhancements (except for Greedo shooting first, though it doesn't bug me that much anymore... and Jabba in ANH which I can now skip with a button press) and welcome more.

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but i wish that he would offer the choice of having the original film.

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For how long will you people say this bullshit? The movies are available in their original format. Go watch them. Lucas has said that he will not reward his detractors with them in a newer format.

Dave

10-05-2004, 03:50 PM

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The movies are available in their original format. Go watch them.

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I would love too, please point me to where i can purchase the original format of the films.

Razorback

10-05-2004, 03:53 PM

You want them, you find them.

Dave

10-05-2004, 03:56 PM

if you are so sure they are available, i want you to show me where i can get them legitimately. Not some bootleg at a Sci/Fi Con, but some store that i can take my sack of Susan B. Anthony's and walk away with those films.

Razorback

10-05-2004, 04:00 PM

I doubt any store has them. You will have to acquire them on eBay or other online sites. You can get legal copies of the VHS versions from there. You can also buy the laserdisc versions (you can buy a laserdisc player for $5 on eBay). The movies still exist, though LFL will not re-release them. eBay is a great place for that stuff. That is how I acquired mine.

Dave

10-05-2004, 04:14 PM

I still dont know how saying this, <blockquote>In reply to:<hr />
i wish that he would offer the choice of having the original film.

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For how long will you people say this bullshit?

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I realize that George doesn't want to release the original versions, but why does it have to be Bullshit, that i as a longtime fan, who has seen all 5 of these films in the theatre, would like to have a DVD version of the movies as i saw them. I don't think it's an unreasonable request/wish for me to have. Does that mean that i'm not going to see Sith when it comes out, or that i won't buy anymore novels, or comics. Of course it doesn't. It just means i would like a copy of the movie i saw as a child.

Razorback

10-05-2004, 09:09 PM

So you want DVD versions of the films? Buy the new ones. If you did then good for you. If you want DVD versions of films Lucas no longer likes then eBay is your best bet. Plus, the majority of "fans" who want the original cut have been blasting Lucas for years.

To those people I can only say that you get what you give. You tell the man he sucks and then demand he give you something in return for that mean spirited shit? You can still get it on VHS and even laser disc. Hell, buy the illegal DVD versions if you want. I am sure LFL is happy to lose your business.

I would probably enjoy the original cut on DVD as well... but as long as Lucas feels some payback for not releasing it I am in his corner. Fuck those bash-happy assholes. They deserve NOTHING.

DangerSeeker

10-06-2004, 10:59 AM

God, you can be such an "If you don't agree with me slightly, you are everything I am against" whiner!

I love the Star Wars films. I defend the prequels. I defend many of the changes in the new editions, but support the idea of him wanting to make the versions he always wanted. BUT I feel like he is being unreasonable in flat-out denying people the option of buying the movies in their original format.

This is difficult to understand, since he seems to be in favor of film preservation. He should appreciate that his work, even in rough form, had such a profound affect on so many that in addition to buying his ultimate edition, they would also like to have a copy of the warts-and-all version they appreciated as a child.

Some of us don't want to buy bootlegs. I own the laserdisc set, but you know what? I would buy the original vesions on DVD. I have them on VHS as well as Beta. If I want to see it in the old painful pan & scan that didn't even shift right (it was just centered) I can.

I'm not saying he should cut out the remastering, but that he should allow the prople who've supported him all these years the option of archive. Hell, he should put the theatrical special editions on DVD as well. Sure, there are things that people complain about, but someday when my kids ask "What does the man mean about Greedo shooting first? We don't get it!" I can show them that moment of film history.

Will they be best sellers? Who knows? Will they need any extras? Nah, make it an overpriced bare bones if he wants to discourage them. But leave it as an option. He doesn't seem to understand that they are film history, and should be preserved as well as explored and expanded.

Not everyone is a Lucas-basher, RB. Some of us just want to give the man a few bucks more for our childhood. The way it was.

Dave

10-06-2004, 12:18 PM

What he said. I don't consider myself a basher at all, but i do think he made some poor decisions about what is undeniably his universe.

Razorback

10-06-2004, 01:59 PM

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BUT I feel like he is being unreasonable in flat-out denying people the option of buying the movies in their original format.

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God, you can be such an "I want what I can't have because it makes me seem like I am even handed" whiner!

You also didn't pay attention to what I said. I wasn't singling out anyone in this thread. I was simply stating that Lucas feels that he will not reward people with a version of the movies he does not like. As he said, if he is going to have people trash him left and right then at least let them trash him for the movies he likes?

The original cuts still exist all over the world. If people wanted them on DVD then perhaps they should have gone about it with a little more respect for the man who created them.

To those people, you get what you fuckin' give.

Razorback

10-06-2004, 02:05 PM

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What he said. I don't consider myself a basher at all, but i do think he made some poor decisions about what is undeniably his universe.

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I didn't say YOU were a basher. The wide majority of people who want the original cuts on DVD are bashers. They trash Lucas everyday on boards dedicated to movies they claim to hate. They write articles about Lucas when no comment was necessary. They make comparisons to his work in areas where no comparison was noticable. These people think Lucas owes them the original cut on DVD.

It is those people I reference when I use the word "basher." There are a few of them on this board. Ten thousand of them live on AICN's talkback forum. They do not appreciate the movies Lucas has created; they do not appreciate the man and his talent; they do not value his right to do with his work what he wants; they think themselves better talent because they have an opinion; they have assassinated the man and his legend throughout media.

They deserve exactly what Lucas is giving them. Nothing. If a few people who appreciate his work and want the original cut on DVD have to suffer for it then so be it. The changes to the movies represent maybe five minutes of footage spanning 6 hours.

DarthMaulRat

10-06-2004, 02:07 PM

I don't mind the changes too much. What bothered me was the time the one classic film festival requested to play an original cut of Star Wars and Lucasfilm totally denied all requests, only allowing the play of the Special Edition. To ignore the historical importance of Star Wars is to deny the cinematic revolution the film created. Even with all the missing elements, the film was still like nothing ever seen. You can't represent the 1977 with occaisonal CGI and digital surround sound.

ILovePapaSmurf

10-06-2004, 03:28 PM

I would love to see the originals on DVD, too.

I think the changes on the new dvd set are way out of hand. To be honest, the only change I liked that Lucas did was Greedo shooting first, but that is because well, it made Han Solo, in my opinion a more likable guy, but still a bad boy ya know.

We can keep bitching about the originals, but he isn't going to listen to us you know. He is just going to do what he feels like doing. I feel your pain.

TomHarrington

10-06-2004, 03:57 PM

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the only change I liked that Lucas did was Greedo shooting first, but that is because well, it made Han Solo, in my opinion a more likable guy, but still a bad boy ya know.

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I thought he was supposed to be a scoundrel who, by his own admission, is looking out for himself. Cleary Greedo had every intention of killing him, so it makes sense that he would take preemptive action. I think it just plays better that way because you get to see his transformation by the end of the film when he comes back to help out his buddy. Besides that, how did Greedo miss? He had the gun trained on his head at point blank range.

Razorback

10-06-2004, 04:01 PM

Greedo missed in the novel... which came out before the movie. So he missed 28 years ago too.

TomHarrington

10-06-2004, 04:13 PM

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Greedo missed in the novel... which came out before the movie. So he missed 28 years ago too.

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But does the novel make clear who shot first? I can understand someone missing from point blank if they’re hit themselves before firing. I’m not being an ass; I acknowledge that Star Wars is something you know a great deal about, so my question is serious.

Razorback

10-06-2004, 04:21 PM

I haven't read it in a long time so I don't remember. I THINK Greedo shot first and missed... but not certain.

In any event, I don't like the change but I also think the negativity surrounding the changes is hyperbole. Smurfy says he has gone "too far." I say again, five minutes worth of footage in a 6-hour trilogy is too much?

I am so glad that I don't get bothered by little things. My life is so much better off for it.

By the way, the new Aladin Special Edition stuff is awesome.

jjcourtright

10-06-2004, 04:24 PM

My wife told me an hour ago that she bought Aladin. Can't wait to watch that.

Razorback

10-06-2004, 04:27 PM

I will wait for you to post about how Disney and Clements/Musker raped your childhood. /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

TomHarrington

10-06-2004, 04:29 PM

What else are people going to talk about, but the little things? Lucas is a brilliant, imaginative, and innovative story teller. But everybody knows that, I think. It should be obvious. Greedo shooting first didn’t ruin the saga for me, but I still think it was a lame move. It’s just something to talk about, RB, and nothing more. But I suspect you know that.

Razorback

10-06-2004, 04:35 PM

The thing is, people don't just talk about the fact that they wish he would release the original cut or their opinion about the changes. People call Lucas names. They then attack EVERYTHING he has done since Empire Strikes Back and call him a hack, Ed Wood, an embarrassment, and a million other unkind things.

So everyone does not "know" that Lucas is brilliant. Did people try to destroy James Cameron for making Titanic?