Matrix Reloaded [Archive] - FRED Entertainment

TiburonCapt

05-15-2003, 04:18 PM

So......[censored].......pissed.......off.......Aparently they assumed that everyone who went to see this film only wanted to see fighting scenes, which granted looked cool, HAD NO [censored] PLOT. I guess they realized that in the end and decided to throw out as much of it as they could in as little amount of time possible, only it was burried under so much techinal jargon that NO ONE in the theatre understood it.....then they thought they'd end it with the classic 60's horror film "dum Dum DUM!!!!!" ending, along with "To be Concluded" in hopes of keeping the viewers attention.......the only thing that made the film interesting were the guys behind me throwing out random Homestar Runner quotes. It's a good thing I re-newed that restraing order......'cause I'm gonna blast that film on the internet tonight.

-Soto

Tongue

05-15-2003, 04:29 PM

Razorback you have now offiacialy got an ally.

liverstone

05-17-2003, 01:32 AM

Granted the Matrix reloaded was fully of much technical jargan, it answered some of the questions from the first movie, I at first galnce didn't like the movie at all but after reflecting on the movie I think there is some substance there and I am going to go back (Mainly for the trailer that I missed at the end of the movie) to figure some of that insane technical shit out. I am really sorry that the movie didn't come up to my expectations but the way I look at it is that the second and third matrix's are subsequent and really ought to be a 5 hour long movie. The reloaded is just filler inbetween the first and third movies. I think (and hope) that the third movie with have a plot and conclussion worthy of the name title 'Matrix'

darthYENIK

05-17-2003, 03:24 AM

Damn, that freeway scene last for [censored]' ever! And the agent turning into a virus? Come on, it was just an excuse to have him in it again, and again, and again<---bad joke. Over all I liked the first one better, but like star wars I guess you need to watch the whole story to really get it. So maybe revolutions will redeem the story, although I doubt it since both were made at the same time. And on one final note, who in their right mind would want to leave the matrix to go to that shit hole zeon?

DangerSeeker

05-17-2003, 11:27 AM

The Dum dum DUMMM was cheesy, but I understood it, and even more the second time. By my fourth or fifth viewing I hope to either completely understand it or let my brain pop like a water balloon on the hose too long.

Tongue

05-17-2003, 03:15 PM

Does this count as a spoiler???? Cheers pal

05-17-2003, 03:18 PM

I thought the plot was pretty clear- Neo is the sixth "One" part of a prophecy which is actually a part of another control system wherein the humans, who still could not fully accept the Matrix, were given the apparent opportunity to rebel. But the Anomaly (as the Architect referred to Neo as) did something that wasn't supposed to happen- he freed Smith from the Matrix. Smith now has some of Neo's abilities and Neo can interact with the Matrix and the Sentinels while still in the "Real World" Neo and Smith are now two sides of the same coin. Add that to the reference of the symbiotic relationship between man and machine and the ending of this entire opus is right there for everyone to see.

Tongue

05-17-2003, 03:24 PM

Riiiiiigggggghhhhhtttttt. I understand the basic of quantuum physics and have performed major brain surgery but ......... could you run that by me again?

marksiwel

05-17-2003, 04:20 PM

jkhulon73 said it all and very well. I hadnt thought of how Agent Smith might effect the Matrix other than people in the Matrix going "Why is that dude everywhere? I saw him at the store and on the subway and on teh news and at school and then in the mirror. Oh wait I'm him."

Razorback

05-17-2003, 04:46 PM

Or even simpler...

SPOILER

Zion is part of the Matrix. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

RB

05-17-2003, 05:11 PM

<blockquote>In reply to:<hr />
Zion is part of the Matrix.

[/ QUOTE ]

bingo /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

Daemonport

05-18-2003, 03:37 AM

Yeah, I can see the whole xion is like another matrix arround a matrix, did anyone notice for the revolutions trailer, the sea of men in black suits arround one of the hover ships, its like a flash, one of the 2nd or 3rd last scenes of the trailer? hrm looks like neo isnt the only one to wake up in the second matrix with his powers =). Unless my eyes are playin tricks on me.

themysca

05-19-2003, 05:42 PM

yeah. And we found at last that there is no "real" world, only a matrix over a matrix over a matrix... Neo is a program, as the Oracle and the Architect... /forums/images/icons/confused.gif

Tuskinashi

05-19-2003, 06:51 PM

Actually, there is a real world.

You see, Neo is still a human, and he is still the One. The Matrix is still the Matrix. What you find out though is that the prophecy is nothing more than something staged to recreate the matrix. Neo is born with those special powers that The Matrix has known about all along.

The reason why this doesn't stop the ending is because Neo can still do his powers inside of the Matrix, and all Zion has to do is fight the robots.

The real world is not another matrix, it is just simply controlled by the matrix. The One usually has to either destroy Zion except for a few people(to repopulate Zion and keep the Matrix in production) or whatever else the other option is(for Neo it was fight until the end and save trinity).

Anyways, never worry. They will win somehow.. all Neo needs to do is just defeat the robots(like he did) and win.

Razorback

05-19-2003, 11:16 PM

I don't agree with your analysis. That is just too cute for the brothers to actually make it true. I think that the ending will be much darker than that.

RB

Tuskinashi

05-20-2003, 02:16 AM

Oh, I expect for there to be hundreds of casualties. I just know that the end will be Neo defeating the robots somehow. I still think Neo could corrupt the Matrix from the inside if he could. Which is why I think it shows Neo figthing Smith again in the Revolutions trailer. Neo says "It ends here. Tonight." and then I forget who but someone also says "He is the only thing instanding in your way." which is refering to Smith.

I know that Neo does not have powers in the real world. He simply has control over the robots(I believe this happened when he jumped inside of smith. He gained a little control over the matrix/robots).

Oh well.. we'll just have to wait and see.

Razorback

05-20-2003, 03:50 AM

I don't think he has gained control over the robots in the real world. I still believe that he is not in the real world... yet (at best). However, if he is in the real world and has gained powers then it is because of Smith (and vice versa).

RB

Matt1

05-20-2003, 05:59 PM

I saw nothing in the film that would indicate that the real world was false. What in the film lead you to that conclusion/possibility, Razorback? Is it just a hunch or are you basing it on something?

Razorback

05-21-2003, 01:41 AM

Ummm... the answer to your question has been repeated a few times in this thread. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

RB

Heyer1260

05-21-2003, 11:37 AM

i think razorback is right. the architect said there were six other programs, he never said the they were disabled. and the only other way for him to shoot electricity from his fingers is another hint. doesn't really matter i thought the movie was good at all. the only good fight scene was with the chinese guy. the one with neo vs 3 agents in the begining was good to. but the rest of it i thought was stupid. i stayed for the preview for revolutions and it don't look any better. i hope i am not the only one who thinks this but if i am who cares its not like people agree with me anyways.
/forums/images/icons/tongue.gif

05-21-2003, 02:10 PM

It seems a lot of people are upset with this movie because it is not as accessable as the first one. The Matrix was relatively easy to understand, it's intents and purpose all but spoon fed to the audience (pun intended) Reloaded, on the other hand, requires the audience to pay attention and think about what they're seeing and hearing. And I think that is pissing people off because most people go to see movies to escape from having to work that muscle Agent Smith referred to. The seemingly superfluous fight scenes might have been an effort to appease the movie goers whose only desire and interest was to see some amzing special effects and wire-fu. But those fans are pissed off because the dialogue was so fast and so deep and so oblique at points, they just couldn't comprehend what the hell was going on and they still felt cheated. I read a review where the author called "Reloaded" the Wachowski Brother's "[censored] you" to the audience. In way, I believe the reviewer was right- I myself am tired going to movies that are all flash and bang but with little substance. I'm glad for a film that answers the questions of the first installment with more questions- it'll make the payoff all the sweeter in November. I'd much rather go see a film like "Reloaded" than "Bad Boyz II" or "2Fast2Furious"- it's a movie that'll stick in my mind for a while, kinda like meat loaf and mashed potatos sticks to yer ribs.

Matt1

05-21-2003, 03:13 PM

I don't know, this theory on the "real" world being another Matrix doesn't jive with me. For one thing I've seen that before: The Thirteenth Floor anyone? I don't think the Wachowski's would pull that. They know how to satisfy an audience and a revelation like that wouldn't be very satisfying to most people. People want to see humanity triumph over the machines and that 's what I expect will happen. At a price. They're crafting an epic myth, not a twilight zone episode.

Here's something that's been eating at me: What does Smith want? Was he in the hallway attempting to stop Neo because he knew what Neo was going to do, or did he believe that Neo was going to go to the source and thus save humanity? Does Smith want to destroy humanity (his hatred for it was well expressed in the first one) or did he want to stop Neo from destroying the Matrix and humanity? Does Smith want to exist soley outside of the Matrix?

Also, how much did the Keymaker know about Neo's ultimate goal?

Omaru

05-21-2003, 05:30 PM

After ages telling myself not to see this film until someone says something I like I finally want to go see the film, and how, I'm going monday cause thats my only free day this week.

DarthMaulRat

05-21-2003, 05:56 PM

The whole matrix within a matrix sounds like a cop out to me. Its too easy and a little predictable. I like the idea of escape being hopeless and the idea of infinite matricies ties in with computer programs (repeating/patterns), but it still sounds a little uncreative.

As for Smith, I think he is still following his orders from when he was a program because he needs a purpose in life. The idea of all people having a purpose in life was really the function of the oracle in the first movie and reiterated a bit in reloaded. I think he was also brought back just to have him in the movie. His more distinctive personality is definitely something the move makers wanted to hold onto. His real motivation is probably to provide good fight scenes.

05-21-2003, 06:38 PM

I think Smith is pissed off because Mister Anderson stole his purpose from him when he freed him from the constraints of his original programming. I think that upset Smith at first, but he is focused now, and has the freedom to define his own purpose- a purpose and desire hinted at in the first movie- the complete eradication of the disease-ridden humans, thus purifying the world for a higher order of being- the machines, pure and perfect, and all in his image, which he has deicided is the essence of perfection. Agent Smith believes that is his purpose now. He alluded to the Others at one point. I think he is pining for the perfection of the original Matrix, even though it was an utter failure.
That's just my theory on Agent Smith.

Razorback

05-22-2003, 12:34 AM

This was my take on it. Smith is consumed by the need to have power. He made a choice not to die (as Neo did in the first) and now he wants more control/power. He feels alive. He is basicly the anti-Neo... he wants to stop Neo from destroying the Matrix because he believes that he can eventually control it with his new powers if he can only merge with Neo. Neo and Smith have been given powers by the other and I think Smith believes the he can only be stopped by Neo (or he wants more power from him).

However, if Zion is within the Matrix and Smith knows this then it makes his human form self's need to kill Neo a bit more difficult to understand. That could be explained by his cutting of his hand before he attempted to kill Neo. He could by trying to mix his own blood with Neo's (which would be the way that you "merge" in this version of the Matrix).

As for a Matrix on top of a Matrix being "predictable", so is "Zion is the real world and Neo will save them all and everyone will live happily ever after". /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

Speaking of unpredictable... who thought that we would see vampires in the Matrix? /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

RB

DarthMaulRat

05-22-2003, 02:32 AM

Good ol' vampires. My friend rented the Enter the Matrix game and there's actually a level where you just go around stabbing vampires. I bring this up because the occaisonal cinematics in the game are pretty interesting and tie in with the movie perfectly. Its so odd to see the movie one day and then see even more of it the next on your own TV. While the game isn't incredibly deep, its worth a rental just to see the story from Niobe and Ghost's point of view. They actually have seperate sessions with the keymaker and an alternate oracle who both explain a little more about the matrix and the inevitable 'big' event that everyone is preparing for (which is still secret... until Revolutions). All is done in the same style of the movie, cinematic quality and all. No expenses were spared, so it seems. There is also a description of the Zion defense strategy which is basically a blockade of ships firing EMPs at intervals. Some cool stuff, if you're that interested in the movie.

DangerSeeker

05-22-2003, 10:03 AM

I think Smith wants to kill Neo simply because he is the biggest obstacle in his way towards eradicating humanity, which is his rediscovered purpose. I think he cut his hand because in the Matrix, as an agent, he was super-powerful, but pain and frailty are new to him, so he was trying it out.

Matt1

05-22-2003, 02:12 PM

Not to mention that he probably hates his human shell.

Razor, your theory on Smith sounds right on to me. Except for the Matrix on top of Matrix part.

Robbo_the_Hood

05-22-2003, 03:24 PM

I just saw it last night. That' movie was awful. As a friend of mine said last night, "It was like getting philosophy from a squeeze bottle." With everyone talking like Yoda for most of the movie it reminded me of Mystery Men, where Ben Stiller calls the Sphinx on his shit. "In order to see the world around you, you must first look within you," crap. Myabe I'm supposed to wait and for the third one, but honestly I'm not all that excited about it.

notageek

05-22-2003, 06:40 PM

People tend to forget that most part two of trilogies suck.

DarthMaulRat

05-23-2003, 01:29 AM

I'd say Empire Strikes Back rocked the casba, but your name 'notageek' means that you probably don't care.

Godfather pt. II, that is easily the best in its respective trilogy. While Back to the Future has an excellent part 2, I just can't put it over the original.

All sequels in a trilogy typically set up a cliff hanger, which kind of a delicate mechanism. If done right it makes the movie all the more interesting, but with poor exectution a cliffhanger can make a movie seem like it went no where.

johnbamforth

05-23-2003, 01:31 AM

not always true scream 2 was good, then u have cruel intentions 2, lord of the rings two towers,just to name a few i could go on but u get my point all these films were better then those that came before them in the series

jjcourtright

05-23-2003, 11:35 AM

Cruel Intentions 2 was a piece of shit. It was the exact same movie just with different actors. The only good thing was those two girls in the shower.

BrianLynch

05-23-2003, 11:38 AM

I loves me the BACK TO THE FUTURE PART II.

Omaru

05-23-2003, 12:03 PM

I found scream 2 to be annoying since there was no real way we could know that that ex-rosanne lady was the killer from the frst films mother. Same rules apply to I still know what you did last summer, that kid being the son of the part ones killer, stupid, but that film made Scream 3 look good, Anyway Scream 2 was an okay-ish sequal. but not living up to the first. A sequal which does surpass its Original, Teminator 2, it lost the overall horror theme (near invincible mass killer) and went for more action. Too bad I can see the third film blowing Major chunks.

johnbamforth

05-23-2003, 12:04 PM

no my friend it shows how the brother sister combo got involved which they dont show in cruel intentions and also not same b/c no death in part 2 and the shower seen was good with the catch line being ring toss(throwing of towel)score

johnbamforth

05-23-2003, 06:38 PM

back to the future 2 was good in theroy but not as good money maker as the orgional but still very good flick to me and again mcfly is the man

Shocker22

05-23-2003, 07:07 PM

Yeah, just like "Empire Strikes Back", and Godfather part 2
horrible movies.

Razorback

05-24-2003, 01:49 AM

And of course "Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo". Classic!

RB

ska_man

05-25-2003, 02:26 PM

hey maybe the matrix reloaded wasn't all it was worked up 2 be but i think it was good and maybe not as good as the first one but still beter than a lot of other movies

Gillan

05-25-2003, 04:48 PM

IN the first Matrix Neo had all of those little implants in his arms,legs and body removed but in the Matrix reloaded the little implants were all back. /forums/images/icons/smirk.gif /forums/images/icons/smirk.gif /forums/images/icons/smirk.gif /forums/images/icons/smirk.gif /forums/images/icons/smirk.gif /forums/images/icons/smirk.gif /forums/images/icons/smirk.gif /forums/images/icons/smirk.gif /forums/images/icons/smirk.gif /forums/images/icons/smirk.gif /forums/images/icons/smirk.gif /forums/images/icons/smirk.gif

johnbamforth

05-25-2003, 05:47 PM

i enjoyed it even though there were a few glitches from movie to movie

DarthMaulRat

05-25-2003, 07:05 PM

Actually, Neo always has the elbow and thigh plugs in the first one, but the cast was typically wearing long sleeve shirts the entire film so you barely saw them. If you watch the movie closely you get a few glances of the extra plugs. I think the plugs they removed were ones that helped circulate nutrients, waste, etc.

psychofiend

05-26-2003, 10:18 AM

I thought it was awesome the only thing I didn't like was when the key maker explained everything that was going on, it was too comical, he was like "the door leads to the control center" I was like "...of John Malcovich's head." That movie was [censored] awesome though, the 25 minute chase scene was totally amazing. I give it the thumbs up!!

Efexeye

05-26-2003, 10:20 AM

Answering about the plastic (metal?) plugs- if you pay attention, the plugs only appear outside the Matrix. Most of the movie takes place inside the Matrix (the first movie) so you don't see the plugs.

retrocrumpet

05-26-2003, 02:48 PM

I thought the Matrix Reloaded was really quite cool. It wasn't as good as it was worked up to be so I left a bit disappointed. Not to be picky, but you could totally tell when the computer generated stuff came into it. But I suppose they couldn't help that. The chases on the motorway and the fight scenes went on for a bit too long but I think Neo might just do it. /forums/images/icons/grin.gif I think it'd be hilarious if at the end of the Matrix Revolution, he failed. Chance for another three movies. Should have left it at one.

Gillan

05-26-2003, 03:36 PM

In the real world of the first film neo had nearly all of his implants out, but in the real world (or outer matrix ) in the second movie he has them asll back u can see this in the love scene in zion. /forums/images/icons/grin.gif /forums/images/icons/grin.gif /forums/images/icons/grin.gif /forums/images/icons/grin.gif /forums/images/icons/grin.gif /forums/images/icons/grin.gif /forums/images/icons/grin.gif /forums/images/icons/grin.gif /forums/images/icons/grin.gif /forums/images/icons/grin.gif /forums/images/icons/grin.gif /forums/images/icons/grin.gif /forums/images/icons/grin.gif /forums/images/icons/grin.gif /forums/images/icons/grin.gif /forums/images/icons/grin.gif /forums/images/icons/grin.gif /forums/images/icons/grin.gif /forums/images/icons/grin.gif

Gillan

05-26-2003, 03:36 PM

DIRTY_SANCHEZ

05-27-2003, 05:22 PM

Disappointed?

I was looking forward to this flick getting a more in depth view of the world of the matrix which it tried to do but just very poorly.? I understood the movie fine just thought it was a shallow badly written story that was poorly executed....

The film looks as though they filmed a load of action scenes then tried to place a story around them.

Still if people want eye candy with a poor plot and performances all round then this a banker..However on the eye candy/ CGI note i also felt this was VERY poor in comparison to excellent work in Lord of the Rings/ the two towers? It just goes to show if you have good material to work with half the job is already done?

These are my opinions you may not agree but hey so what?

BriansDaMan16

05-27-2003, 06:00 PM

srry guys i know someone probably answered this but what exactly was the plot of the matrix reloaded??? i have no [censored] clue what it is???

Razorback

05-27-2003, 06:08 PM

If you would read just one or two posts about the movie you would have no doubt as to the plot.

RB

Matt1

05-27-2003, 06:32 PM

My, you're a curious fellow.

Tongue

05-27-2003, 08:07 PM

If you just read one or two posts about the movie you'll still have no [censored] clue what it is.

DarthMaulRat

05-27-2003, 11:16 PM

Actually, no one really hit the plot, just the concepts. The plot is basically that the machines are drilling to Zion in hopes to kill every one and end the human threat. Meanwhile, Neo is done 'playing' in the Matrix and is looking for a way to destroy it from within.

That's pretty much it. Not much progress is made, as all of the human plans fail. Most of the movie is spent discussing the structure of the Matrix and if it could be destroyed. Then there's a reasonably big plot twist at the end which sets up Revolutions.

The reason we all sound pissed is because the movie is just average once the excitement dies off. Too many questions are asked and none are answered, the movie ends where it begins for the most part.

"Revolutions has some 'splaining to do!"

Razorback

05-28-2003, 05:56 PM

I could pick aparty your analysis easily but I won't because I'm already over the arguments about this movie. /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

RB

DarthMaulRat

05-28-2003, 07:34 PM

Anaylsis? Its just a summary and I tried to keep it spoiler-free, which is why it sounds incomplete. Although I suppose this thread is one big spoiler in itself, so my efforts were unnessecary.

As for not arguing: Oops...

Tongue

05-28-2003, 08:17 PM

Sounds very much to me like RB's got his old 'I'm right and your wrong and we'll here no more about it' head on again. [sigh] oh well it was fun while it lasted.

BriansDaMan16

05-28-2003, 11:33 PM

thanx for explaining it. ne way wasn't that agent smith's freed self at the end of reloaded? in the bed next to neo?

Matt1

05-28-2003, 11:44 PM

Yep, that was Smith.

johnbamforth

05-29-2003, 12:02 AM

what a wondeful end to such a solid movie what we call a cliffhanger

Efexeye

05-29-2003, 09:34 AM

Just saw Reloaded for the second time, and it was much better without all the anticipation and builidup, like the first time. If you get a chance, see it again and listen to the dialogue- all the information you need is right there on the screen.

Omaru

05-29-2003, 10:59 AM

yeah I need to see it again, cause firt time it all just went through me quicker than 10 pints of beer and a balti vindaloo

Razorback

05-29-2003, 11:32 AM

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Sounds very much to me like RB's got his old 'I'm right and your wrong and we'll here no more about it' head on again. [sigh] oh well it was fun while it lasted.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think maybe you should read my reply again because I said nothing remotely like that. I think you should look in the mirror before you accuse someone of being a jerk.

I simply said that I am done arguing about the movie... it isn't important enough to me that I feel the need to defend it.

RB

jjcourtright

05-29-2003, 12:37 PM

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balti vindaloo

[/ QUOTE ] Crazy Brits. What is a balti vindaloo?

Zens_7s

05-29-2003, 12:54 PM

Is it the brother of Marc Vanderloo - the male model? Is it a disease that only strikes Omaru and male models? Is there a disturbing amount of "ooo" sounds in my post? I think so.

jjcourtright

05-29-2003, 12:58 PM

Maybe we need to get ourselves a hold of the out-of-print britionary.

Zens_7s

05-29-2003, 01:02 PM

I think we do, because the Hiphoptionary does not cover foreign words. I wonder if they have a second edition of the Britionary out now? The first edition only has two words, bollocks and wanker. jj, what shall we do?

jjcourtright

05-29-2003, 01:05 PM

I guess we have Omaru and Tongue to help us until we find this 2nd edition.

BriansDaMan16

05-29-2003, 03:42 PM

ya know what. i think that like in all stories the begining is the basic idea of the story (matrix), the middle is the problem of the story/the low point of the story (matrix reloaded) and the end is solving the problem (matrix revolutions). thats y everyone didn't like the matrix reloaded because there was no way for reloaded to be the exact same thing as the first matrix. hopefully revolutions will be the life saver of the matrix story.

BrianLynch

05-29-2003, 03:50 PM

I really like this guy's name. Good show!

jjcourtright

05-29-2003, 04:38 PM

So, your new enjoyment in life is commenting on peoples names? Or, are you doing more research for your "What does everyones screen name mean?" article?

Zens_7s

05-29-2003, 06:05 PM

Well I hope Brian's middle initial is not "a", because his full screen name would be Brianalynch, and he would be banned.

psychofiend

05-29-2003, 08:36 PM

If he is I hope he guesses why I am named psychofiend correctly. Oh, [censored] it, I'll just let u in onthe secret. I love the word fiend and in a day use it a lot, and many people think I am a psycho at school. I can't imagine why anyone would thinkg I am a psycho. /forums/images/icons/confused.gif

Tongue

05-30-2003, 06:09 AM

I can't believe that is your argument RB. Have a good look over the majority of every argument/discussion you have entered where your opinion differs from other peoples and you will have to admit 9 times out of 10 you end it with ' I'm done talking about this, read my earlier posts' or words to that effect. You seem to like putting your opinion down and when it concerns a subject that doesn't have a straight forward answer then you seem to be a lot more 'i'm right, your wrong' than ever. Peoples opinions differ RB and it's about time you realised that. If you feel you don't want to contribute anymore to the conversation then say nothing instead of pompous replies you give that seem as tho their only pupose is to suggest that you are above replying. If everyone wanted to refer people to their 1st post then this site will be alot less active.

DangerSeeker

05-30-2003, 10:29 AM

I think what he's doing is saying "Why do I need to repeat myself if I've already stated my case?" That's not a discussion, it's a loop, and not all that fun either. Neither is voicing an opinion then having everyone infer things from it, bringing them back into an argument they got tired of having. I took his statement to mean "I'm here to enjoy myself, and I'm not enjoying this conversation, so I am stepping out." There's no need to drag him back in.

Razorback

05-30-2003, 02:19 PM

What is the problem here? If I have already covered the question or talked an issue to death why do I need to restate my position? If people can't read the content of the thread then I am not going to lead them through it... again.

What you said is not true and so I have no need to defend myself from a made-up accusation (I don't ever say "I am right and you are wrong" or infer it with any seriousness).

If you don't understand this then so be it. I don't argue a non-issue no matter how much someone tries to make it one and I don't like to repeat myself over and over.

RB