Farenhiet 911

[Frank3]

has anyone heard anything about this movie ? is it coming out in theaters or on dvd or what ? all i heard was michael moore did a great job again

[jjcourtright]

Hmmm, no I haven't. I've heard about Fahrenheit 911 but not Farenhiet 911. You can read about Fahrenheit 911 here. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0361596/) As for Farenhiet 911...you're on your own.

[JIM]

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all i heard was michael moore did a great job again


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He never "did a great job".

Oh... wait...
when it comes to spewing B.S., "creative editing" and twisting the truth...sure, He's the best!!!

*JIM gives a thumbs up*

I used to be a fan a long time ago. Then I woke up and smelled the crap that was coming forth from His mouth.

He's a bad, bad man. /forums/images/icons/tongue.gif

[Razorback]

Michael Moore is to documentaries what Howard Stern is to husbands who stay with their wives forever.

Both men have made movies that were supposed to be an honest look at life and are in reality just distorted versions of the truth.

[locsphere]

Yeah its bull crap all right you didn't open your eyes you fool most of that movie is fact or is of americans dieing people dieing and soldiers dieing a lie the pipeline that will be going through afghanistan a lie or even the news reports before 911 about george w bush slacking off how about this try serving over sea's and gaurding this pipeline and barley doing anything to help with the afghan food supplies then watching all these big wigs who come in and say too bad there oil here other wise you wouldn't be here its bull crap Micheal Moore doesn't say bullshit he shows you the bs that goes on I was over there i saw what the bush admininistration puts its profits to oil and having american companies rebuild so it can put the countries in debt to us so we can use that for an edge I can show you the afgan news paper about the pipeline in afghanistan and luckily for me i dont just watch what the news has to say i do my research before i stand or shoot down some one elses work most of it was fact people aredying over there for oil just. do some research before you call some one else research twisting the truth or maybe you need to enlist an see it first hand innocent people are dying over there American Soldiers and innocent muslims we shouldn't be there enlist so you can see it first hand. If we had to also "get Saddam" Because he was a tirent well looks like where going back to vietnam. and china , Iran North Korea, most african countries like Lybia,i guess where going to have togo into syria more we wont though you know why because they dont have what america wants OIl natural resources Suadi arabia is an allied nation that why we havn't invaded them yet do your research kid

[FanGirl]

I thought when you gave a thousand monkeys a computer for a thousand years they are supposed to write shakespeare and not posts about Michael Moore. Maybe this was one of the 100 monkeys for a 100 years deals.

[Razorback]

The choir speaks.

Funny how everyday the media finds a new bit of fiction in his movie.

[locsphere]

all im saying is there is a lot of truth in micheal moores movie i saw a lot of stuff he brings up that are in fact true and it angers me when people have have never seen combat they have never protected something they love and have the leader lie which is expected hell vietnam was a war over oil there an american bank in the middle of there capitol and if you ever go around theres oil field with american investors im just saying so yeah im a monkey that expresses my opinion through fact to enlighten those who watch the media and just that who dont investigate who dont see everything for what it is. I just saw a lot of stuff over there i went though a lot and so did my buddies some of them didn't come back and well i miss them and this movie breought up what soldiers are going through

[Razorback]

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all im saying is there is a lot of truth in micheal moores movie

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Like?

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angers me when people have have never seen combat they have never protected something they love

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What does that have to do with this? You do not need to have been in war to enter war. In fact, there are people who would argue against military people being in government, period.

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and have the leader lie which is expected

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I keep hearing about the lies of the Bush administration but no one can produce any facts backing that up. At best it can be argued that the administration mislead people as to the main focus of the mission. I think that the worst thing this administration has done is allow our men and women to enter a combat zone without the best equipment.

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hell vietnam was a war over oil

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It was?

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there an american bank in the middle of there capitol and if you ever go around theres oil field with american investors im just saying

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What the hell?

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so yeah im a monkey that expresses my opinion through fact to enlighten those who watch the media and just that who dont investigate who dont see everything for what it is

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But I don't need Moore to tell me what to think. I watch every news channel available to me... I read the news... I am a news junky. I have 20+ different news alerts a day. I feel that I am as clued in as anyone. I find Moore's movie to be far more misleading than anything the administration has done.

But hey... that is just an opinion far better expressed than yours, using proper grammar and punctuation. That doesn't make me right, just smarter than you.

[FanGirl]

I was referring to his lack of punctuation and sentence structure. I couldn't read more than a line without getting a headache.

[Razorback]

I am still not sure if he said that Vietnam was a war for oil.

[jjcourtright]

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I couldn't read more than a line without getting a headache.

[/ QUOTE ] I'm with you. I don't know how RB got through enough of it to refute specific points. When I can't tell when a sentence ends, and when the new one begins, I just give up. Don't find it to be worth my time.

[bwdial]

If we had to also "get Saddam" Because he was a tirent well looks like where going back to vietnam. and china , Iran North Korea, most african countries like Lybia,i guess where going to have togo into syria more we wont though you know why because they dont have what america wants OIl natural resources Suadi arabia is an allied nation that why we havn't invaded them yet do your research kid


Poetry...sheer poetry...A+++++++++++++++++++++, Ralphie.
I'm just sorry I missed the part about the "compass in the stock and this thing which tells time."

Punctuation. Spelling. Coherence. Ever hear of them?

[locsphere]

I dont bother using proper spelling and "Proper Grammer" when I am typing what I feel It comes out. what I was trying to say those who just watch the news are not let in on all the facts. because of the stuff I know Vietnam was a war for oil. believe it or not. Not a political conflict, or a war to control Communism. War is good for buisness has any one ever heard of that??? you would be amazed how true it is. Saddam could have been controlled by the U.N. The media is controlled by Government. We flew Osama Bin Ladens Family out of the country. The media didn't release information about a the Taliban Leader in pakistan 8 months after he was caught. do the periods and comma's help with your head ache Im sorry if those who have tunnel vision on what goes on in the world can not handle the truth. instead they make fun of they way I spelt things where my capitalisation was and how I spelled things. but what was I thinking look at the posted name I replied to. Im tryingto show you what you have a blind eye to like the grenade thrown in one of our Vehicles injuring three we where focusing on Iraq when all these people are coming in from pakistan planting road side bombs and all we had was hmm 10,000 troops there will be more cops on duty for protest near the white house when that happens. so pretty much the Ignorant will always open there big mouths and finally when some one tries to share what they have experienced and what they have reseached; rather than listen to the media. and also making fun of someones research and what they dont understand, or maybe even sounds ludicrous to there ideals will make fun of my Grammar thanks for the replies you have proved my point of the ignorant now try Enlisting and will see what you think about this war or you could see the movie and see what some soldiers think. Hope my attempt at propper grammer was asprin for your head aches..?!&lt;;:()"'

[locsphere]

Like the oil pipe going through afghanistan, hwo the military doesn't stand behind bush, how there are people who dont know why they are fighting this war, like how big bidders are bidding on Iraqs oil, how polititians barley read the bills that are passed, the absence of troops in afghanistan, how the american people where lied to(have we found any NEW types of WMD in Iraq no there is none, we where lied to and the extra stuff I put in there about Vietnam was showing how the past has shown we only go after countires that have our interests "OIL" stupid but hey im sorry next time i'll put the periods in the propper place so those can tell thats it's not just some idiot rmabling on think what you wnat it just shows how mindless americans have become Like britney spears chewing her gumn going ummmmm I think we should stand behind Bush No matter what he does. hahahaha so yeah Like? theres your answer dumb ass

[karmattack]

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I dont bother using proper spelling and "Proper Grammer" when I am typing what I feel It comes out.

[/ QUOTE ] Think about this for a second. How is anybody going to assume that you know more about something than they do when you can't even seem to recall the English we all learned in freaking ELEMENTARY SCHOOL! If you want to be taken seriously, you will at least display basic English skills.

Believe me that I'd be among the first to listen to any liberally-sided statement here, but you're just making it look uneducated and stupid.

[Razorback]

Thanks for clarifying... so you are a nutcase?

[locsphere]

yeah i gues you could call me that, I'm a nutcase for peace you because I went out and saw reality its called watching your budy die for a needless cause oil its called being in some one elses country and standing in body parts of innocent people who died a needless death having to send write a letter letting my family so they know I love them in case I die I was there to see the afghan pipeline being built I'll tell you what ill scan it and email it to you the Afghan news paper in half dari ( thats a muslim language in case your wondering) and half english it tells about the progress of the afghan government. I dont want my nephews to have to go over and fight and see war so yeah im a nutcase. I would say respect veterans but, I chose to enlist and I dont need anyones respect but my own. So pardon me if I try to tell some snot nosed kids the horrors I've seen and the research I have uncovered looking for answers to the atrocities I have faced Hope I spelled that right wouldn't want the spelling critic to get a headache

[Razorback]

Back up your claims.

[locsphere]

fine I admit it I had great difficulties in English area hahaha was a wiz in math though loved science but the I before E thing bothered me but, (see comma after the but )hey I dont give a shit as long as I get my point across Im used to forums where people just ramble on. But, (probally shouldn't have began my sentence with a But huh Unproper) but now I will be aware of the spelling and grammer Nazi's did I use the 's right?? woops to many question marks.

[locsphere]

I just offered too

[bwdial]

because of the stuff I know Vietnam was a war for oil. believe it or not. Not a political conflict, or a war to control Communism.

Please elaborate. I would be fascinated to hear what you know to back this up.

War is good for buisness has any one ever heard of that??? you would be amazed how true it is.

Really? It had never occurred to me that factories pumping out military machines at breakneck speed is good for the businesses producing said machines. Do you think us all idiots, or is this over-simplification a by-product of sitting around talking politics with people whose news intake consists of US and People?
I noticed you called Razorback a dumb-ass, so I'm just going to crawl under my desk. Have fun. /forums/images/icons/grin.gif

[Razorback]

He called me a "dumb-ass"? Are you sure he spelled it correctly?

[jjcourtright]

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hey I dont give a shit as long as I get my point across

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The problem is, you aren't getting your point across.

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I'm a nutcase for peace you because I went out and saw reality

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What the fuck does that mean?

[bwdial]

hahahaha so yeah Like? theres your answer dumb ass

Well, "dumb" and "ass" are spelled correctly, even if the punctuation leaves something to be desired. /forums/images/icons/grin.gif

[locsphere]

see what i mean getting off the subject do your home work and enlist i really want you all to enlist and volenteer to go over there then talk to me about spelling okay ??

[bwdial]

Back to the subject then...I asked you for the proof about Vietnam. Still waiting.

[DangerSeeker]

Not possible. Viet Nam never happened. It was just a cover story for all of the testing they were doing on soldiers. The Draft? Not so random. They needed a good cross section, and didn't have it enlisted.

Aw crap, my foil hat's all stretched out again.

[Razorback]

I don't need to volunteer for the military to contribute. I have contributed my time to both GW1 and GW2 in different ways. I have friends in the war zones now and I worry about them every day. That doesn't take away from the fact that Michael Moore is a liar, or that you sound like a nut.

You said that you have backed up your points but I still have not seen it. Also, for what country did you serve?

[bwdial]

I fear an all-encompassing reply is being feverishly typed as we post. It will, of course, read like jibberish, due to the fact that it will be spelled phonetically, have no punctuation and, if we're really lucky, won't even have spaces between the words!

[Razorback]

I am hoping for no spaces between the words!

[Rogue1]

It is quite amusing to see all of you ramble as much as I hate to admit locsphere is correct about Vietnam and everything. Micheal Moore who cares if he is a lyer or not the film did show Families cought up in this war and I have checked there is a lot of factual information. locsphere is right I should know I served in Vietnam. I've actually have been back there. there are oil fields later of which I found out where owned by American Companies. so lets settle this locsphere is saying Micheal Moore is not a Liar you say he is I want all of you to provide the Proof that he is lying. but yes locsphere's claim is correct it is obvious you don't have to enlist. Here you all are making fun of this man or woman who was over there. Its obvious he is pained by his time spent and what he has seen you should respect his actions to step up to the plate. I can see what he is saying he's saying he saw the pipeline being built that it is in fact true. My son was over there also there is a pipeline. anyways I'm not going to debate either this is what I know I will back Up locspheres claim. also locsphere you might want to do something about your PTSD your taking it out on the wrong people. they dont care what you went through just keep a positive attitude and dont let words on a web page get to you it will be okay /forums/images/icons/cool.gif I'm also not one to stop for the spelling so for the "spelling Nazi's" as Locsphere would put it sit this one out.

[Razorback]

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It is quite amusing to see all of you ramble as much as I hate to admit locsphere is correct about Vietnam and everything.

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You fuckin' idiot!

You both have the same IP address!

68.112.244.226

[FanGirl]

Not only that, but at least change your style and attempt to hide you're the same person.

[Rogue1]

isn't this fun watching how some one can get under your skin and try to decieve you this is locspheres Dad he got his info from me about vietnam we sure where having some fun with you guys by the way my son did serve over sea's and he just loves watching idiots squable I think we will make this a habit to ummm get under peoples skin and now that we know that well anyways have fun wasting your day guys we sure had fun getting you all pumped up and well off subject

[Razorback]

You are so full of shit. Nothing you say will be believed now. Go away already. In fact, someone lock this sock puppets account please.

[bwdial]

Holy shit...I didn't realize bad grammar was genetic! /forums/images/icons/smirk.gif

[Razorback]

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Holy shit...I didn't realize bad grammar was genetic!

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Maybe they are clones... oh shit! It is Jango and Boba!

[bwdial]

I was thinking along the lines of Tweedle-Dumb and Tweedle-dumber.

[Razorback]

Let's go with yours.

[locsphere]

What the hell is this web site? Why does all of my names and passwords work on it? Why am I getting so many fricking emails in response to comments I have never left? Who are you and can you stop sending me emails. Why are you making fun of whomever was using my email? If this is some type of sick Hacker's joke. How come most of my view's on certain subjects posted?

[locsphere]

Okay, so this is about Farenhiet 911. I thought it was a good movie. Those who call Moore a lier. If you see some of his interviews, like on CBS. they do ask him about possible lying. He states that he had people and investigators try to prove him wrong that of which they could not. Also there is proof one there is a pipeline in Afghanistan I was there I guarded it but I dont think that's the main topic here also to the previous comments posted in regards to Vietnam and all that jazz about oil it is also true. The proof your looking for can be found in a book by Jim Marrs "Rule By Secrecy" Also a book called The Creature From Jyckill Island. A book about the federal government and how most of American money is Borrowed from privatley owned banks with high amounts of interest. Read them they where good also I was over Sea's you dont have to enlist to know what's going on just research it. A lot of the stuff in Moores movie was stuff I already knew so it was nothing special I thought every one already knew about the Bin laden family getting flown out, How Bush is trying to bring back the draft, and that he wanted regime changes in Iraq, Iran, North Korea, and China. Also stuff did happen to me over there and I dont want to talk about it. I found out my Little brother who I talk to about all these things found this web site and used it using my logins that i use else where. Then later used "Rouge1" one of his user names to try and make his point. Other than that, is this movie that big of a deal? I thought it was fantastic and brought out a lot of dark area's in our Government that the American people should be aware of. Other than that after seeing previous response's to last comment do your worst. You guys where just looking for proof thought I would try to offer some and also I had to figure out what the hell was going on and why I had all these emails from people I didn't know. So no more email's. Go pray to the god of skinny nerds or something just dont bug me.

[BAMSS04]

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[locsphere]

for one I said no more emails secondly. My family has problems with spelling. Maybe thats Due to the fact that English is not our native tongue. So if you will all please shut up about spelling. Me and my family at least learned the language unlike some other people who move into this country and just take and take from it but don't bother to give anything back. I was born here but shortly after I moved back. But things are better here and now I live in the United States again. so as for spelling drop it. You are the people that stand behind a man that can't even use propper english let alone spell things correctly. But, wait! I may have "Misunderestimated" Him and if by poker you mean by bluffing you again like my brother did by changing names kiss my ass. If you want the proof,I told you how to get it.
so Essen Mein scheißen

[Razorback]

I have no idea what you are talking about... I have no idea what e-mails you are talking about since I didn't send any to you. Take it up with your settings and whoever it is that is using your computer.

[Razorback]

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I thought it was fantastic and brought out a lot of dark area's in our Government that the American people should be aware of. Other than that after seeing previous response's to last comment do your worst. You guys where just looking for proof thought I would try to offer some and also I had to figure out what the hell was going on and why I had all these emails from people I didn't know. So no more email's. Go pray to the god of skinny nerds or something just dont bug me.


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With respect to this response... I still think you are the same person who posted the other crap. I still think you are full of shit, and I am sure that you didn't see F911 because the movie really doesn't reveal anything all that interesting unless you like slamming Bush.

[locsphere]

You just dont understand do you. go ahead think that I am the same person. I can see why there would be distrust. Lets go over some things about the movie which is what this topic is about. its not just to slam bush the movie shows that its buisness as usual. A war for oil why would some one say this or think this we went for weapons of mass destruction right? thats the reason for Iraq. we found them right. Yes we have sparingly as all other countries knew they where but when we went in it was for Large stockpiles and actual facilities making the stuff as we invaded all we found where Facilities that have been abandoned for years. Where are the nukes and supplies for them being built there are none. Micheal Moores Movie was not only showing how Irresponsible Bushes Decision has caused. The suffering of Iraqi people. you see a woman screaming why did they bomb here. Innocent peoples homes being bomb Iraqi Children with thier arms so badly mangled you and see there bones. Saddam Hussien allowed U.N. Inspectors in they found nothing. these reports of chemical weapons they are bing found in one's and two's not in stockpile form and not even capable of reaching the U.S. Now back to Moores movie he showed the Afghan Pipeline. Its a Pipeline I Have seen it. Its true. Also companies are over there making money tons of money a worker makes 10,000 a month as to the soldiers who make 2,500 to 3,000 a month unless your high up there in the ranks.Like an officer. Now I'm not sure if you have ever have to take a life but it does take away a part of you. The Marine who siad he would not go back no matter what. Now it was also about how you never see to many richer families in the military recruiters target any one they can get but, the ones most willing are the ones who have a hard time going to school the minorities if you will. Most troops over there siad they have been there longer than they expexted some have been there since the beggining over 18 months between thier wait in Kuwait. They are being slaughtered and for what. WMD. where are they? besides in small quantinties. where are the nukes? where are the stock piles of nerve agents and biological weapons? and dont show me a report by the Polish showing they found two where are the stock piles I say again. where is this Intelligence and even Rice and Powell stated there are no weapons of WMD at the beggining of Bushes Presidency. and then bush wanted to link. I know this man got us through 911 and everyone around the world lit candles in memory of those lost everyone was with us and everyone wanted to go after Alqueda. Everyone knew Saddam wasn't a threat. Now the point here is. the media isn't going to tell you all the fact because they are controlled by the Government. Open your eyes. Bush wants a Regime change in Iraq, Iran, North Korea and China. open your eyes people or are you just going to follow the heard to the Slaughter bush is trying to bring back the draft do you really want your kids fighting pointless wars. The guy can't even say a sentance correctly. yet People goton my brother and then me get a life people. Bush allows the rich to get richer as well as him self. Everything about the suadi's is true. Your right it is bashing Bush because he's an Idiot an your following him and everyone is dumber for having listen to him every time he speaks. I gave you the books to read for proof read the books. and you will see. Micheal Moore has practice his right to free speach only everything he siad was fact. the Patriot act took away some of our liberties. So even though Bush had siad they shouldn't be able to take away our liberties. they already have. The People that passed the act Didn't even read it. anyways this will be my last entry I'm sick of talking to the dumb and the Ignorant.

[Mighty_Wingman]

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You just dont understand do you.

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No, that's kinda the point , Chief.

1. You dont type English very well. I stop reading your "word salad" posts after like two sentences. You should work on that , your typing , I mean. Or else buy a keyboard that's not made of Jello.

2. You say things like : I just said so , so that's why it's the truth. Try backing yourself up. You got a news article ? Pictures ? Anything ? If you really expect people to believe you, they're going to need more than just your word. Right now , you're hurting your cause more than helping it. Your claims are insubstantial.

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I'm sick of talking to the dumb and the Ignorant.

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* Snorting laughter * So are we, if you catch my drift.

Goo'nite Gunther.

[Razorback]

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You just dont understand do you. go ahead think that I am the same person. I can see why there would be distrust. Lets go over some things about the movie which is what this topic is about. its not just to slam bush the movie shows that its buisness as usual. A war for oil why would some one say this or think this we went for weapons of mass destruction right?

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You write exactly like the "other" person.

As for your points... the world runs on money. The current world fuel is oil. The fact that we might be having a war about oil and making money is not surprising as many wars have been waged over less.

More importantly, I have never believed that this was about oil or freeing the Iraqi people. It was always about sticking a doorstop in Islamic extremism. This is not a nation building effort, it is an effort to region build; to start the process of changing the minds of people who live in a fantasy world where the average person believes in stories akin to "The Ring of Power must be destroyed in the fires of Mount Doom." Except that their fantasy world has to do with killing the "infidels"... us. History will decide whether or not the loss of life was worth it.