What do you guys think of John Woo?

[woo_wannabe]

Hey, I have always wondered what other movie lovers thought of the best action director in the world, John Woo. Him, along with the likes of Tsui Hark, Yuen Woo Ping and Cory Yuen make up the most recongised Chinese direction element in Hollywood. If you then add Jackie Chan, Chow Yun Fat and Jet Li, then you have basically everyone that has made it in Hollywood.
And, what do you think of Chinese style action, say in The Matrix, making it's way into Hollywood?

[Razorback]

Other than WINDTALKERS (which was one of the worst war movies I have ever seen) I love him.

[Jason_Brown]

I loved "The Killer". I haven't really cared for his American films.

Unfortunately, the success of "The Matrix" has lead to lots of bad wire work in what seems like hundreds of terrible U.S. action films.

Personally, I love wire work in fantasy films, a la "The Matrix" and "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon". I usually hate it in action films set in the real world.

[karmattack]

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Personally, I love wire work in fantasy films, a la "The Matrix" and "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon"

[/ QUOTE ] Be sure to check out Hero when it comes out here. I watched it again last night and it's so well done -- very artistic.

As far as John Woo, I have almost nothing good to say. He was better off making Hong Kong films and being a cult celebrity here. His American films are aweful.

[DangerSeeker]

Most all of the HK greats have been sub-par in the US. THE TUXEDO is nowhere near as fun as MADAME ROSE/CANTON GODFATHER/MIRACLES/whatever they call it next time they release it. FACE/OFF may be fun, but this from the guy who did A ETTER TOMORROW? How does one go from CHINESE GHOST STORY to DOUBLE TEAM? RUMBLE IN THE BRONX to MR. MAGOO???

I still like the American stuff to a degree. Hark's work is always shot beautifully, Woo does great action, and Sammo is as clunky a director as they come. All of them have been below their ability in the U.S. That said, I still dig it.

[FanGirl]

Doves. When I think of John Woo, I think of doves.

Sadly, I've only seen his American films and I actually liked Face/Off. Broken Arrow had 2 good quotes, one of which can be used in so many other movies: "Could you please not shoot at the thermosnuclear weapons!"

[Matt1]

He's good, but the original impact of his style has been diminished over the years due to everybody aping it.

[BAMSS04]

I like him. His films are fun and he seems to enjoy making them; that really comes off in his movies.

As for the wire-work in all of these movies, well it's ok. Sometimes!!(but also) NOT ok sometimes. Make sense.

[woo_wannabe]

Yeah, I have seen Hero on dvd here before it has even come out in the cinemas and I loved it. The use of a different colour for many of the scenes was very interesting.

I agree with much of what you guys have said. I personally love John Woo. The first thing that go me into him was in the trailer for Broken Arrow when Christian Slater's character dived down the mine shaft with two pistols in his hand, classic John Woo. Then i just found all his Hong Kong films and watched them. I have seen The Killer, A Better Tomorrow and Bullet In The Head but others are really hard to find here. Oh, by the way, the doves symbolise the Dove of Peace, an ever-present unlying ideology of many of Woo's films. I think the best dove in one of his films would have to be the dove from Face/Off, it looks really coo when it flies past in slo-mo.


Well thanks guys, I'm glad other people see John Woo in a similar light.

[DarthMaulRat]

Completely agree. Woo is the guy who set the standard, and I appreciate him for that, but he's done little to reinvent himself as of lately.

[Jason_Brown]

Thanks, Karma. I'll definitely keep an eye out for "Hero".

Another one I really enjoyed was "Iron Monkey".

[Razorback]

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Be sure to check out Hero when it comes out here.

[/ QUOTE ]

I thought it was shit. I went to a test screening for it over a year ago and the audience laughed throughout at the dramatic moments. I gave it crap ratings. My friends and I were asked to do the focus group afterwards (for which you are paid $10 I think) and we refused. We did not want to spend another second on this horrid peace of shit.

[karmattack]

Can you give specific reasons? That's pretty shocking. Everyone I've shown the movie to has loved it. Even my girlfriend, who tends to pride herself on taste, keeps asking to watch it again.

Curious.

[Razorback]

The entire movie was retarded. I can't get any more specific since I thought it was as bad as shit covered toast.

[karmattack]

Obviously a valid opinion. /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

[Tongue]

I've sen quite a few of Woo's HK films and as with so many people became hooked unfortunately his Hollywood films have been slowly decreasing in standard as have so many Far Easten stars of late. Jet Li seems to be reduced to doing straight to video Chow Yun Fat is well underused for such a fantastic actor with a good grasp of the English language and even the daddy himself Jackie Chan has followed up his blockbusters with (should be straight to video) tat like The Tuxedo. And as for Ang Lee and The Hulk. nuff said.

[SporkMaster]

John Woo is a pretty good director. I've enjoyed his films. His style is unique and his films don't suck. What more can you ask for?

...nudity, that's what.

[woo_wannabe]

Well i guess you obviouly don't appreciate the artistic concepts in the film.
One thing that annoys my about people is them not having tolerance for a wide range of genres. I remember when Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon came out. I absolutly loved it but all my friend were like "I thought it was stupid. Why did they fly?!" I had to explain to them that it was a Chinese mythology film and in Chinese mythology, anyone who knows martial arts can fly.
As you can probably tell, i love the Hong Kong cinema and Chinese films. They are great! But I do agree with many of your statements about Chinese film making talent being westerised and becoming nothing special. When the Medallion came I was looking foward to it but it turned out to be a piece of shit. Jackie Chan is one of my heros, but I still think it was crap.
Thanks guys, keep it coming!

[Razorback]

Oh please... "Hero" is agonizingly boring and predictable. I love stylistic movies but this was just shit. It is so over the top that everything begins to sound like a Monty Python movie. The dialogue is ridiculous and the actions sequences are comical. They look like SHAOLIN SOCCER, except that this movie is not supposed to be funny... but it is.

"Let's see how close I can get to you before the audience walks out of the theater."

"Oh lets... even though it will be obvious to everyone, an hour before you attack me, that you are here for me."

I laughed, I cried, I vomited at the idiocy.

[bwdial]

I don't. Not real big into this genre. *covers head*

[DangerSeeker]

Haven't seen it yet, but we seem to be seeing a Love it or Hate it polarization here. My hope is that I'll love it.

Cant remember if I got this link here or somewhere else, but here it is for those who haven't seen this piece of awesomeness (http://www.younggu-art.com/dragonwars/pre_mov320.htm)

[karmattack]

It's definitely not without its weaknesses. For those who liked Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, Hero should be a worthwhile movie. More artistic than the average movie.

I'm just trying to figure out the extreme hatred. Not that I dislike the Star Wars or Matrix films, but for someone (RB) who consistently defends the camp and cheese in those movies........I just'a dunna get it! /forums/images/icons/wink.gif Stones and glass houses.

[Razorback]

There is a world of difference between campy and cheesy. Star Wars and the Matrix movies are campy. "Hero" is cheesy... no, "Hero" is over-the-top junk.

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It's definitely not without its weaknesses. For those who liked Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, Hero should be a worthwhile movie. More artistic than the average movie.

[/ QUOTE ]

Abso-fuckin-lutely not. CTHD is mystical, beautiful, and wonderfully pieced together. "Hero" is boring, ugly, frantically annoying, and worst of all PREDICTABLE.

I nearly slit my wrist after watching it. I had seen hell and death could not be any worse.

[MiloBloom]

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Abso-fuckin-lutely not. CTHD is mystical, beautiful, and wonderfully pieced together. "Hero" is boring, ugly, frantically annoying, and worst of all PREDICTABLE.

I nearly slit my wrist after watching it. I had seen hell and death could not be any worse.




[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks, Razorback! That probably whet my appetite to see this film more than all the praise I've read so far. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

[RobinHoodDaffy]

Aaaaaaaaaaaa-men brother!

[karmattack]

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"Hero" is boring, ugly, frantically annoying, and worst of all PREDICTABLE.

I nearly slit my wrist after watching it. I had seen hell and death could not be any worse.

[/ QUOTE ] So you're saying you're in the "gray" area? Neither here nor there, could go either way? Sorry, I just can't tell whether you liked it or not. How do you really feel?

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[karmattack]

LOL

not to make it more of an issue than necessary, but I have to point out for what it's worth (some might say not much) that, out of 12 reviews so far, Hero has a 100% approval rating at Rotten Tomatoes.

[DangerSeeker]

I liked Dustin Hoffman, but I'm not that big a Geena Davis fan.

[Razorback]

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So you're saying you're in the "gray" area? Neither here nor there, could go either way? Sorry, I just can't tell whether you liked it or not. How do you really feel?

[/ QUOTE ]

Dude... you win the award for the funniest response of 2004. /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

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Hero has a 100% approval rating at Rotten Tomatoes

[/ QUOTE ]

I knew Rotten was allowing mental patients to review movies.

There is always the chance that since the test screening (more than a year ago) that the movie was changed, but I doubt it.

[DangerSeeker]

But I'm a mental patient, and they never got back to me!

Stupid tomatoes.... where's Finletter when you need him?

[karmattack]

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Dude... you win the award for the funniest response of 2004.

[/ QUOTE ]

http://i.timeinc.net/time/daily/2001/0103/sally0316.jpg

[woo_wannabe]

Well of course there is an element of predictability to it, it does't run in chronological order. Therefore we are told things that are about to happen! If your talking about the action sequences when you say over the top, of course they are, that's the way Chinese films like this have always been made. Look and the Storm Riders. Same sort of stuff and still a great film.
And about the dialogue, one thing that Chinese cinema needs work on is it's scripts. There is a strong absence of good quality screenwriters in Hong Kong, but that is covered up with what they can do physically. And I don't understand what is funny about it. You must have a strange sense of humour. I can't even think of how you could cross refence Hero with a Monty Python film. They are completely different. After I read that, I went and watched Holy Grail and I couldn't see any similarities at all!
I know you are trying to make a valid point, but you aren't backing it up with shit!

[Razorback]

It is funny because it is so bad that you have to laugh at it. How is it like Monty Python? The Python movies are dark comedy, and this could work as one. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

As for the rest of your comments, stop trying to school me in Chinese cinema. Do you seriously think that I need to be better informed about the art to like this movie? I seem to have no trouble loving dozens of movies from the same genre.

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I know you are trying to make a valid point, but you aren't backing it up with shit!

[/ QUOTE ]

What are you smoking? The fact that I dislike the movie and have an opinion about the art makes my point valid. The fact that you disagree with me in no way invalidates my opinion. What shit do I need to back up? This isn't a matter of facts vs. opinion. This is an opinion of an art, and art is not linear.

I hated the movie. Now go rub your dick all over it. I don't care. I am not here to tell you to stop liking it.

[DangerSeeker]

Jeeeesus, RB! The guy was agreeing that dialogue is a weak spot, and saying why he found that to be the case. Just because you always have to be an authority on every topic (I can feel you warming up your typing fingers now) doesn't mean every person is also trying to be an authority as well. He was discussing!

This is a discussion board, remember?

He never said "You must hate all Japanese, Chinese, Dirty Knees Moo-vies!" He didn't say "Obviously you know nothing about cinema, if you fail to see the joy in this film!" Being as you are the dissenter in opinion on this one, I think the idea was to find out why.

So take a deep breath, count to ten, relax, and don't scare away the newbie.

[Tongue]

It's just yet another case of the perfect RB telling us that he knows all and only his opinion counts end of story.
Every day i seem to be reading a discussion that seems to include RB giving his two cents worth and when someone challenges him he tends to either tell them that they know shit or just comes back with how boring this all is.
No wonder we get all the morons on here pissing about as any newbie with a slight amount of intelligence goes elsewhere after RB razes his head.

[Razorback]

You might want to go back and re-read what he said.

[Razorback]

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No wonder we get all the morons on here pissing about as any newbie with a slight amount of intelligence goes elsewhere after RB razes his head.


[/ QUOTE ]

Funny how I have had far less to say in the last few months than other people (about noobs etc) and then you come back to tell me how I have been doing nothing but attacking people for their opinions. Open your eyes. Most of the action around here is centered around other people now.

[Tongue]

I have and while it's true he doesn't seemed to have wholly grasped the concept of discussion either in alot of his responses it is you that do it time and time again and it's obviously not just me who noticed. Lets face it RB you love an argument and you're determined to never concede your point no matter how valid someone elses is.

[karmattack]

In RB's defense, he has been pretty tame and forgiving (for lack of better words). I'm just saying for the sake of fairness that maybe it's not an always/never type of thing.

Plus, he kind of half stuck up for me this morning. Believe me, that says something. /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

[Razorback]

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Lets face it RB you love an argument and you're determined to never concede your point no matter how valid someone elses is.


[/ QUOTE ]

And you have a hard-on for commenting on my postings, so leave the lessons for someone else.

[DangerSeeker]

So you want us to just let you spout off on everybody and anybody, but remain unchecked and unchallenged yourself?

Who do you think you are? The President?

*gives signal*

BATTLESTATIONS!!!

[Razorback]

I don't know what drugs you are on but bring it on. I am ready to go all out here. I have sat back way too long. Battlefuckingstations you bet your ass.

Let the war begin.

[Mighty_Wingman]

Is it "that time of the month" already ?

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[Razorback]

At least it comes only once a month for me. I don't know how you deal with the waterfall in your panties.

[Mighty_Wingman]

Well when we're done, I put them back on your girlfriend. /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

[DangerSeeker]

Well, the battlestations thing was meant as a gag, but what the hell...

Remember that break I took from the board? It wasn't because of anyone here, but I will fully admit that some people I missed, some I didn't, and some it was good to get away from. You were, to be honest, one of them.

You've been told countless times that you make people feel like their opinion is considered invalid. You condescend, you bully, you overreact, you pontificate. Sure we all do, but we do other things too. We make jokes, we play around. Maybe I'm just not seeing it, or maybe I've trained myself now to see everything you say as being snarky, but it seems you only come here to fight.

You either act like we're picking on you or you lash out before somebody can pick on you. Often you behave like somebody who is suspicious that everyone is making fun of them behind their back, and wants to get their shots in, even though we aren't.

Now, with what looks like a falling out with Smurfy, that side of you comes out more. You seemed to be taking more cheap shots, trying to air what was supposedly private messages to the group, and so forth. You just want to be responsible for us not getting along with you, because if you lightened up a little and we still didn't take to you, that would be the real you we didn't like.

And if this isn't a front, if this isn't some sort of self-preservation tactic, man, good luck. I wouldn't lay money on any happy endings.

Sorry if this is harsh, or none of my damn business, but I consider many of the people here friends, and even some of the ones I don't know (like newbies) I feel I have to protect from the big bad bully of the board. I've never been one to back down or get intimidated, but sometimes I don't get around to simply standing up and saying to seriously, all kidding aside, you really do piss people off.

[Razorback]

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Well, the battlestations thing was meant as a gag, but what the hell...

[/ QUOTE ]

As was my response... but what the hell...

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Remember that break I took from the board? It wasn't because of anyone here, but I will fully admit that some people I missed, some I didn't, and some it was good to get away from. You were, to be honest, one of them.

[/ QUOTE ]

I bet that somewhere in your mind you thought that I would read that and think "Oh no, I really must adjust my personality to fit in better." Just somewhere in your mind, I know it.

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You've been told countless times that you make people feel like their opinion is considered invalid. You condescend, you bully, you overreact, you pontificate. Sure we all do, but we do other things too. We make jokes, we play around.

[/ QUOTE ]

And of course all I do is bully and overreact.

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Maybe I'm just not seeing it, or maybe I've trained myself now to see everything you say as being snarky, but it seems you only come here to fight.

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh I think it is pretty obvious to my friends on this board that people like you make up intent as a way to dislike anything I say. Or, you ignore the times that I have avoided fights, or just been an all around amiable kind of guy.

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You either act like we're picking on you or you lash out before somebody can pick on you. Often you behave like somebody who is suspicious that everyone is making fun of them behind their back, and wants to get their shots in, even though we aren't.

[/ QUOTE ]

There you go, injecting your personality into mine. I have no need to defend myself here since it is ridiculous.

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Now, with what looks like a falling out with Smurfy, that side of you comes out more.

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh your ignorance in this matter is so wide that you should not have even gone there. This is just another example of you (and those who dislike me) manufacturing feelings into your version of my personality.

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You seemed to be taking more cheap shots, trying to air what was supposedly private messages to the group, and so forth.

[/ QUOTE ]

If people are going to make up shit about me then I will air out whatever I feel is necessary. The fact that you don't like it means nothing to me. In fact, seeing as you are obviously someone who considers me so badly I can't imagine anything you say will affect me one way or another.

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You just want to be responsible for us not getting along with you, because if you lightened up a little and we still didn't take to you, that would be the real you we didn't like.

[/ QUOTE ]

People who matter to me are treated well. I don't ask them to come to my defense, in fact I ask them to not do it. My friends, on this board, know me well enough to not take any of this shit too seriously. Your negative opinion of me just means that I have never reached out to you and made an effort to get you to know me. I would guess that it has something to do with your intellect and/or personality making no impression on me (as I sometimes confuse you with someone else on the board).

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And if this isn't a front, if this isn't some sort of self-preservation tactic, man, good luck. I wouldn't lay money on any happy endings.

[/ QUOTE ]

*shrug*

If this is your battleship response then I can't wait for you to let loose the nukes. Will you call me a "big meany" then?

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Sorry if this is harsh

[/ QUOTE ]

If it was harsh I didn't notice. It is not like you said anything that hasn't been said a few hundred times before. Maybe this response would have affected me 12 years ago, but I like who I am and I have no issue with people not liking me.

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I feel I have to protect from the big bad bully of the board.

[/ QUOTE ]

The funny thing about that is that you, and those like you who attack me in defense of other people, are actually jumping in to bully me. If I was a real bully then I would not be able to deal with it. Oh what does it matter what I say anyway? You believe I am a bully and I will remain one in your mind until you decide that I am not.

I will not change. If you don't like it then I invite you to convince Ryall to ban me. Start a thread about me. Warn people about what a bad guy I am. It won't change anything. The only way you will stop me from being me is by having my IP banned.

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I've never been one to back down or get intimidated, but sometimes I don't get around to simply standing up and saying to seriously, all kidding aside, you really do piss people off.

[/ QUOTE ]

Now, I hope this post made you feel good about yourself. I really want you to have enjoyed this because otherwise it was just a waste of a few minutes on a worthless little man who bully's people from behind his computer.

[DangerSeeker]

My post wasn't about trying to change you, and yeah, honestly, I do feel a bit better. I'm not the kind of person who keeps things to himself if they're bugging me, and frankly you've bugged me. I had to say something.

Seeing that your entire reply was either taking light jabs at me or refuting every point, it backs up that you apparent;y are very happy with yourself, to the degree that you don't need to listen to anybody else. Well, at least not the likes of somebody who, despite being here since the get-go, you apparently can't tell from anyone else.

The reason I apologized is because I was raised to be polite. I didn't assume I has cut some deep would, and specifically took out some mean-spirited jabs, but it has never in my life been my itent to actually try and make someone feel bad, so I pre-emptively apologized. Maybe it's the bleeding heart peacenik in me, who knows?

You won't change, I won't change, we've said our piece. Now I'm gonna get back to being silly somewhere.

[Razorback]

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My post wasn't about trying to change you, and yeah, honestly, I do feel a bit better. I'm not the kind of person who keeps things to himself if they're bugging me, and frankly you've bugged me.

[/ QUOTE ]

Get over it.

[DangerSeeker]

Oh, one more thing: You really are a dick.

[Matt1]

I really don't understand why anyone on this board ever gets pissed off at another person. For one thing, not meaning to belittle anyone, you are all just words on a screen. I flick off my monitor and all of you might as well not exist. You flick off your monitor and I might as well not exist. It requires a lot of commitment to hate somebody, too much to waste on someone you don't even know.

Secondly, if someone disagrees with my opinion, I don't get angry. If they have a valid point I consider it. If they have no valid points (which is rare around here) and their brain is totally out to lunch, I pity them more then anything else.

As for RB specifically, I like him. He has on many occasions made me laugh, intentionally and unintentionally, and made me think. This board would get kind of boring without him.

[Razorback]

Does your mom still burp you after you eat?

[Razorback]

Stop being an ass-kisser! I told you, we will never be anything more than phone sex buddies!

[ILovePapaSmurf]

<font color="purple">Oh, he gets phone sex and all I got was a t-shirt. Jesus, now I know how I rate in your book! /forums/images/icons/wink.gif</font color>

[Matt1]

Fine. Be that way. I'm taking you off my speed-dial.

[TomHarrington]

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I really don't understand

[/ QUOTE ]

Well, obviously, Matt. What the hell? What’s wrong with ya, son? Oh, you weren’t finished. Sorry.

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why anyone on this board ever gets pissed off at another person. For one thing, not meaning to belittle anyone, you are all just words on a screen. I flick off my monitor and all of you might as well not exist. You flick off your monitor and I might as well not exist.


[/ QUOTE ]

The thing I’ve never understood is the premise that because we’re communicating electronically, it doesn’t matter (long division, too, has always troubled me.) I’m convinced, in almost all cases, that the messages I read are inextricably linked to a living, sentient being.

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It requires a lot of commitment to hate somebody, too much to waste on someone you don't even know.


[/ QUOTE ]

Hey, I second that emotion. But I doubt that hate actually comes in to play here. Mild resentment seems more appropriate.

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Secondly, if someone disagrees with my opinion, I don't get angry.

[/ QUOTE ]

You get even? I hear that, yo! Retribution like a mo-fo.

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If they have a valid point I consider it. If they have no valid points (which is rare around here) and their brain is totally out to lunch, I pity them more then anything else.

As for RB specifically, I like him. He has on many occasions made me laugh, intentionally and unintentionally, and made me think. This board would get kind of boring without him.


[/ QUOTE ]

I hear you barking, big dog. RB has made me laugh, too. Not as much as DangerSeeker, though. In “real life” I’d more likely hang out with him.

Did you ever start responding to a post and forget why? I’m thinking that I may have had a point to make, or had something to say, but now I feel like that kid who pissed in the public pool. The purple cloud of dye is starting to envelope me and I’m trying desperately to figure out the appropriate way to respond.

Thankfully, that never happened to me. The pools I peed in weren’t equipped to detect my contribution. But, man, what does one say? Do you allege innocense in spite of the empirical evidence surrounding you? Maybe you just sit in your own mess, like Pvt. Pyle, eating his jelly donut.

If I’ve diffused any anger, or , perhaps more importantly, confused any one of you, then my work is done here. Otherwise, I disagree with you; Piss off!

[woo_wannabe]

Whoa! I didn't mean to cause this much trouble. I come back here after a day and there's practically a war going on! I'm sorry for all you guys who coped it cos of me. RB, i respect your opinions about these sort of stuff. Almost everybody who i had viewed posts of knows more than the average person about the artistic elements and things behind films. That's very rare too.
And don't worry. nobody is going to scare off this newbie! Thanks for backing me up you guys.

[Mighty_Wingman]

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Whoa! I didn't mean to cause this much trouble.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah really ! It's all this guys fault ! I say we hang 'em ! Then we tattoo 'em ! Then we kill 'em !

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come back here after a day and there's practically a war going on! I'm sorry for all you guys who coped it cos of me.

[/ QUOTE ]
It's not so much you, matter of fact it's hardly anything to do with you. Don't take it personal, it's not.

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And don't worry. nobody is going to scare off this newbie!

[/ QUOTE ]

Booo !

Raaarrrr !

Grrrrr !

Grr ?

I guess you're right . You don't scare easy do you ? /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

When I first came here R.B. made me feel very unwelcome and worse yet, the majority here at that time seemed to really suck up to him. Some because they actually do like him ( hard to believe, I know. ) Some because they feared him. I tried to be rational and kind and forgiving and get along with him, but that didn't work so well either. Every time I agreed with him he'd make me regret it, maybe not right away but sooner or later.

Remember the "Wizard of Oz" ? How he seemed so powerful and scary ? Then when they pulled back the curtain there was just a little old man standing there working the controls. That's how I've come to think of R.B., not necessarily that that's how he is, but you see what I mean , don't you ?

Anyway , for my part , he and I came to an understanding when he was ripping on a particularly stupid newbie a while back and the stupid Newbie says ( This is not word for word)
" How come they don't ban you ? "
R.B. says " Every site needs a bad guy and I am it."

I laughed my ass off, I couldn't sum it up any better than that. My opinion of him changed drastically at that moment.

I've come to think of R.B. as a friend, not the same way I think of Karma or Zens or J.J. or Danger or Tom. Or A bunch of others here, But the kind of friend you call up when you call up when you wanna have an argument. He's an A$$hole . Yes. But he's really not such a bad guy... Once you get used to him.

[Razorback]

Sniff... you had me at "Booo !" You had me at "Booo !"

[woo_wannabe]

Yeah, thanks. You can be my wingman anytime. As for R.B, think what you like mate, you aint got shit on me when it comes to The Woo.

[Razorback]

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As for R.B, think what you like mate, you aint got shit on me when it comes to The Woo.

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What the hell are you talking about?

[woo_wannabe]

Ah don't worry, lets all be friends now. Arguing sucks balls /forums/images/icons/crazy.gif After a nip of rum I've come to the following conclusion...life is too short. Woo is living it up and we are arguing on the poop shoot. Oh man.

[Razorback]

If you use "woo" as a pronoun again I am going to hunt you down and kill woo.

Arrggh! Now I am doing it.

[Mighty_Wingman]

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Sniff... you had me at "Booo !" You had me at "Booo !"

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Oh, don't get all worked up , I'm just shoplifting the pooty.

[Zens_7s]

Everyman knows it is wrong to shoplift the pootie on a single mom. /forums/images/icons/smirk.gif

[BAMSS04]

Woo, why don't you help him help you.

[Mighty_Wingman]

The human head weighs eight pounds, but yours weighs twelve because of the two bricks.

[DangerSeeker]

I can burp just fine on my own!

*BRAPPPPP!!!*

Oh, jeez. Just vommed in my mouth a little...

MOM!!!

[bwdial]

Sorry to dredge this mess up, but after watching Windtalkers, I think he sucks ass. That is, without a doubt, the worst war movie I have ever seen. Top to bottom and side to side, I can't find anything even remotely nice to say about it.
The characters may as well have been cardboard cutouts. Amazingly enough, a cardboard cutout would have had more depth. Angry-hero-who doesn't want to be a hero...check. Ignorant, bigoted redneck...check. Scared/worried married guy with premonition of own death...check. Doe-eyed nurse...check.
I don't even know what function she was supposed to serve. She helps rehab him, shows up at the bar he is at before he ships out to Saipan and then writes letters every so often. No kiss. No secks. Nothing. The book Screenwriting for Dummies points out that extraneous characters should be lopped out of the script. How does a charcter like this ever get on celluloid?
Nicholas Cage may have won an Oscar for Moonstruck, but I've seen better acting from David Caruso. It was like bad stage acting, but it's not really fair for me to single him out. All of the acting reminded me of bad stage acting.
I thought John Woo was supposed to be some sort of genius with the stunts and special effects. As Butthead said..."those special effects aren't very special." People do not burst into flames when a hand grenade explodes. Sherman tanks weren't made of magnesium...thus, the armor just doesn't catch on fire. Everytime someone was shot in the movie, it looked as if they had just been strafed by a fighter. The ground around them exploded in an orgy of miniature air mortars and dirt...even if they were shot with a Garand M-1 rifle.
Oh, and Saipan doesn't look like Southern California. I kept half expecting to see cowboys to go along with the "codetalkers". The men of Easy Company in the 506th P.I.R. deserved the incredible tribute that Band Of Brothers was. The Navajo codetalkers deserved better than this piece of shit.

[Hellubah]

Hard Target was in reality only 37 minutes long.

[psychofiend]

I'm not sure if I've seen anything by John Woo. I'd have to say that if i did or didn't like the things i've seen that were directed by him, they probably did not have a very big effect on me.

[fl_jack]

I think he's overrated. He kind of reminds me of Jerry Bruckhiemer (sp?)