Halliburton rides again!?!

[JIM]

Arrrggh!
Here we go again...

Halliburton back in the saddle (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=544&e=5&u=/ap/20040116/ap_on_go_pr_wh/halliburton_iraq_1)

[RobinHoodDaffy]

How many times will the American people bend over and grab their ankles? What can this Administration to to make the average person realize what is going on. Democrat or Republican, we can't just let our Government piss away money.

[Efexeye]

*ducks and covers*

[Matt1]

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Democrat or Republican, we can't just let our Government piss away money.

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Woah, woah, woah, hold on-- we can't? Dude, you just blew my mind. Talk about a whole new way of looking at the government.

[JK]

There are very, very few companies in the world that can do what Haliburton can- if I remember right, there are less than 10. Something like five or six. Haliburton has been doing what they do since not long after Spindletop blew in in 1901. They've been a contractor for the military in WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and Desert Storm. Most of the infrastructure used around the world was designed, developed, and built by Haliburton. In fact, the oil fields in Iraq were first built by Haliburton. So it stands to reason that the guys who built it in the first place would be the ones contracted to come in and fix it. And as far as the expense of bringing fuel oil into a war zone- Haliburton guaranteed delivery. Anyone expecting to get it for a buck and a quarter a gallon in that situation is pretty f*cking naive. And it would seem a lot of the other contractors bringing in for cheaper are disappearing between the well and the pump, selling on the black market for upwards of five times what the Pentagon is having to pay. All this other stuff is just more bullsh*t from the guys wearing tinfoil hats and compulsively buying copy after copy of "Catcher in the Rye"...

[Mighty_Wingman]

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All this other stuff is just more bullsh*t from the guys wearing tinfoil hats and compulsively buying copy after copy of "Catcher in the Rye"...

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Hey ! that tinfoil hat keeps the Government AND the aliens from reading my thoughts ! And is 14 copies really too many when they keep disappearing ???

[JIM]

You made some great points there jkhulon73. The biggest sticking point for Me though is the "no bid contract".
Granted, it's hard to truck all that oil and gas, but there's a lot more at work here.
I'd like to see what comes out of the investigation into Halliburton though.
Then again... *Tin foil hat warning!* /forums/images/icons/grin.gif
It would'nt surprise Me if some of that money was being shifted around/created/made for the Intel, Spec Ops, and other as yet to be named three letter agencies community.

Oh SHIT! they just busted down My door!
*sounds of JIM screaming and yelling as He's being dragged away by "them"*

[Matt1]

Them? Do you mean... these guys?
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/reddragon/John%20Carpenter/11%20They%20Live/tlst03.jpg

[JIM]

Noooooooo! It's THEM!
By the way, I'm all out of bublegum...

[Matt1]

I knew it. Those goddamn yuppie-alien scum.

[Razorback]

I would enter this discussion but jkhulon73 said more than enough for me. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

RB

[Dr3vil]

Politicians don't get to their station without support from voters and financial backing.

It only stands to reason they'd deliver on promises made to both parties, and this is just as true for any candidate. Looking where they got their money will tell you more about what they stand for than any pamphlet, because when it comes to supporting one or other, let's face it, the mass mentatility electorate are a lot easier to fool.

This is simply a return on a large investment Halliburton made in this administration (largely to Dick). Still, I am a bit taken aback by the sheer audacity of putting all the oil in that country under Halliburton's control. You'd think the government might put at least part of it under the control of it's largest competitor to keep the Iraq war from having a negative net effect and competition and thus oil prices, but a slightly closer examination reveals a number of reasons that would never happen.

I don't like it, but let's face it, if a politician can best fullfill every promise made to their contributors while maintaining roughly the same support from the public, they are certainly going to.

[ratm1966]

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There are very, very few companies in the world that can do what Haliburton can- if I remember right, there are less than 10. Something like five or six. Haliburton has been doing what they do since not long after Spindletop blew in in 1901. They've been a contractor for the military in WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and Desert Storm. Most of the infrastructure used around the world was designed, developed, and built by Haliburton. In fact, the oil fields in Iraq were first built by Haliburton. So it stands to reason that the guys who built it in the first place would be the ones contracted to come in and fix it. And as far as the expense of bringing fuel oil into a war zone- Haliburton guaranteed delivery. Anyone expecting to get it for a buck and a quarter a gallon in that situation is pretty f*cking naive. And it would seem a lot of the other contractors bringing in for cheaper are disappearing between the well and the pump, selling on the black market for upwards of five times what the Pentagon is having to pay. All this other stuff is just more bullsh*t from the guys wearing tinfoil hats and compulsively buying copy after copy of "Catcher in the Rye"...

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Amen!!

[RobinHoodDaffy]

For me it all comes down to the simple fact if there are even TWO companies that can do somthing then have them bid. If you choose them after a due process then so be it. In this case, there are other companies, and Haliburton is under investigation. Would it kill us to look around a little.
Besides, I have to wonder about these things. I am an American voter. If we don't ponder, discuss, bicker, and call each other names, we aren't getting the full Democratic process! That was what my "can't let the Government piss away money" comment meant. Too many people forget that our Government is set up to have a complete bloodless revolution every four years. I am just getting tired of the "I don't vote, nothing ever changes" idea. I don't care who anyone votes for, just take part in the process!
-step down from soap box, commence throwing tomatoes.

[Matt1]

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I don't care who anyone votes for, just take part in the process!


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I vehemently disagree with this statement. When a stupid person tells me that they don't vote, I breathe a sigh of relief. When they tell me that they do vote, I always go, "Great, another dumbass I have to compete with."

[RobinHoodDaffy]

We will have to agree to disagree. I can't stand whiners who don't vote. Besides, till all Americans vote, we cannot have the Government the people actually want. We just get the same shit, which we deserve for not taking part in our own country.

[Matt1]

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Besides, till all Americans vote, we cannot have the Government the people actually want.

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Have you ever interacted with most of these so-called people? If you haven't, let me tell ya pal, it ain't pretty.