freddy vs jason

[sk8erboi]

look the new movie coming out is called freddy vs jason and it is going to [censored] suck b-cause there is no way in hell that jason is going to fall asleep to let that dumbass freddy kill him. how many times in a gay ass old movie like that do you see the killer fall asleep. come on it is [censored] stupid you got 2 b mentally ill to sit through something that [censored] stupid. /forums/images/icons/mad.gif

[jjcourtright]

It is good to see new people come here and right away drop a couple of f-bombs.

[Ryall]

>look the new movie coming out is called freddy vs jason and it is going to [censored] suck b-cause there is no way in hell that jason is going to fall asleep

I love the logic here. Everything else about these two characters makes perfect sense, but Jason grabbing a catnap between beheading virgins, THAT doesn't ring true.

Calm down a little, Avril.

[jjcourtright]

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Calm down a little, Avril.


[/ QUOTE ] You may be the funniest person I know.

[Razorback]

You need to get out more. /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

RB

[Robbo_the_Hood]

wait, wait, wait, wait, WAIT! Jason never killed virgins. If you know your Friday the 13 history, it was always the kids that were doing it like rabbits that got the axe, or spear, or weed whacker modified with the rotary saw blade. My personal favorite was when he got them mid-coitus (see part 2). Basic morality for us kids; do it before you're married and Jason will kill you.

Now, with Jason actually sleeping, that is kind of a sticky subject. If they stick with the story, Jason is revived by lightning in part 6 and ceases to be human. While in parts 2-4, Jason would almost die, or not quite die until Corey Feldmen got a hold of him (is there anything that guy can't do?). Part 5 wasn't even Jason, and then part 6 Jason is more of a walking-undead killing machine. In those parameters I do not think Jason would sleep seeing as he is no longer human. No only that, he is drowned and then revived later by metaphysical means in part 7. Sleeping is no longer on the agenda for Jason.

Now, I am not looking forward to this movie because with those givens there is no way for them to actually fight in Freddy's territory. And to do that, the writers would have to ignore decades of continuity and think that their audience is stupid. And Hollywood would never, ever do something like that.

Once again, all my intellectual crediblity has gone down the drain.

[JK]

I would go see this flick, just for the novelty. If I hit the mattinee, it'll only cost $2.50... Then I won't be so dissappointed if it bombs.

Oh, the one kill that sticks out in mind is when Jason pushed a party horn through a girl's head while she was leaning out of a van looking for her boyfriend who left her in mid coitus to investigate the strange sounds outside... I forget which movie it was in...

[Shawnathan]

Well, if it makes you feel any better...you at least destroy your intellectual credibility with a display of very good grammar and sentence structure.

It works a lot better than:

"omg d00d what r u talkign about??????/ ur totale wrong cuz jason never killde thoz virgens cuz they were totale havign sex0rz when he killde them omg this movie is totale goign 2 sux0r i kno it!!!!!!!1"

I mean, c'mon. You even used 'coitus' in a sentence. That's awesome.

[Robbo_the_Hood]

party horn = part Seven: the New Blood.

I hate myself.

[DangerSeeker]

Dont feel bad for knowing all that stuff. There's absolutely nothing wrong with having no grip on what's real and what's just a horror movie, says the guy who wrote this (http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/news/oct02/55a.html) and this (http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/news/oct02/55b.html) last Halloween. Umm, maybe we should form a support group?

[Robbo_the_Hood]

Yeah, I remember those. That guy and I could have an endless conversation about this stuff. I'd even constructed a time-line of events at one time. If the first movie takes place in 1979, I figured that by the end of part 9 (Jason Goes to Hell) it was actually the year 2010 or something like that.

[Dave]

you know i haven't seen a Friday the 13th since Jason Goes to Hell. I expected it to be like the "Lobo's Back" comic, if anyone remembers that, and i was totally dissappointed when i got standard slasher fare. even Erin Grey couldn't lift my spirits with that movie. I suppose though that the end of that movie could be the catalist for the Freddie v. Jason thing though.

[DangerSeeker]

"Know him? He is me!" Somewhere, buried deep in the treasure troves of stuff of mine, I have a horror mag from the makers of "Cracked" that has a detailed breakdown of every death from the films. I think it cut off at 8, though. It even counts random severed heads and the like. I can't remember what president served when, but I can remember when the goofy slob kid bites it at the goofy kid camp. Sad. Or good.

[Robbo_the_Hood]

ahhhhhhhhh, the goofy slob kid. And it was his dad that ended up being the not-Jason in part 5 (oh, I gave it away).

I had a discussion with my friend and collegue and with my analysis (and I'll admit a little of yours as well) I took all of the fun out of those movies for him. He said, "Can't you just enjoy those movies without thinking about them?"

Nearly punched him right then, but then I told him that is how I have fun with those movies, however, with the time warps between movies after part 4, I have less fun with those.

[Robbo_the_Hood]

And why aren't you writing more of that. That was some great shit. I'm going to have to get Razorback on Ryall's ass, since no one pays attention to anything I say around here.

[Razorback]

Who? Whu?

RB

[DangerSeeker]

I'll have more horror stuff hopefully for Halloween, but I mainly concentrate on individual holidays for articles. Keeps the pressure off to have something every week with other stuff going on.

The worst time gap for me was between 8 &amp; 9. I remember wondering how Jason came back, and what they could do to explain it. After an all-night coffee and pancake Denny's excursion (where all my story ideas originated in college) I hammered out a now-lost treatment for what I would do.

I thought it would be fun to have the child Jason discovered and cleaned up, then reintroduced to society. The toxic waste had its effects, though. He would've mutated back into a fairly average, if not geeky, kid, playing more havoc with continuity. The problem was, much like the Hulk, when he got angry he turned into Jason and started killing. I remember it was standard Jeckyl &amp; Hyde setup, but some really funny scenes. Barely remember what.

I did this with other movies too, like Ernest Goes to Hell, which I honestly think would have worked and pulled in an easy PG rating. All of them were lost when my college web page was randomly wiped. Hadnt had a class on backing stuff up. Damn.

[Outer1]

Yes but there is more to consider than Jason not sleeping. Because in Freddy's Dead he was brought out of the dreamworld, where he was pretty much a pathetic pussy that couldn't hold his own.

These movies were a staple of my childhood, and I will see it regardless of the cheese factor. Hell Ronny Yu the director, is already talking about making this a series or even reviving individual movies for each of them. And of course Robert England is ready to go, because come on Freddy is about the only gig he can get lol.

[Dave]

True, unless they try to revive the "V" franchise for both him and poor Marc Singer. Where have you gone Marc Singer? Where!!!!!!

I would have loved to have seen an Ernest goes to Hell by the way, Loved Jim Varney, was a truely sad day when he passed, but my sick mind says that this can still be filmed if only we can get a camera crew into(and back out of) the after life. hell just think of all the directors we would have access to, Hitchcocks final film, an Ernest movie.

[DangerSeeker]

Never considered Hitchcock. Hmmmm. I was going for a weird mix of Bergman and "PeeWee's Playhouse." Mr. Worrell. falls off the roof while shingling, only to bust through the ground and keep going. That way he's not dead, and no implication he's a bad guy. Family friendly.

Next thing he knows he's in a big fiery inferno. He's not on any lists, so he keeps passing himself off as this or that until somebody sees him move around unrestricted and assumes that he's the big guy. Put in charge, he starts giving people second chances, even clears it with the guy above. Hilarity ensues.

At the end, he makes it back to the surface, only to fall off a ladder into another pit. Only his hat and keys remain. Then his hand (a la Freddy) bursts out and grabs the hat. A moment passes, the hand returns and feels around for the keys as the credits roll.

Thinking back on college, I didn't get laid much.

[Robbo_the_Hood]

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Yes but there is more to consider than Jason not sleeping

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I only adressed Jason's sleeping patterns because Ryall said something to the affect that who says Jason couldn't catch 40 winks while killing virgins. My rebutt was to those criteria. I'd have more to write, but no one pays attention, and I haven't had any coffee yet.

See, I'm on here before coffee, that's how much I love this place.

[PeteDewolf]

Jason is a punk, Freddy said so here: Interview With Freddy. (http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/news/oct02/33.html)

I posted this for two reasons. 1) I wanted to try posting a link. And B) I'm a shameless self-promoter.

Pete

[Dave]

Hey pete
that icon rules man!

[PeteDewolf]

Thanks. I think it is the single greatest icon in the long history of... iconatry.

[Omaru]

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I would have loved to have seen an Ernest goes to Hell by the way, Loved Jim Varney, was a truely sad day when he passed

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Passed up the role, or passed away? hell I only watched Toy Story the other day and wondered what he's doing right now. if its the láter, when did he die?

[Robbo_the_Hood]

It is in fact the latter. For some reason, I believe he died sometime between he did a Simpson's episode and the actual time it aired, but that could just be me romanticizing his career. I don't have the obit on me, but I'm sure you could look it up somewhere. Me? I'm too lazy.

[Outer1]

Jim Died February 10, 2000 from lung Cancer. Know what I mean vern?

[HolyHeretic13]

i just downloaded this flic about a week ago and tried watching it. I got about 5 minutes thru it and got bored. It may have been good on the big screen, but without the loud screams and close-ups of gore (I hope this movie has some) it looks like the average Boogey-man film. I look for movies with more of a supernatural aspect. Killers with blades aren't scarey. its what you dont see that creeps out the crowd. <font color="brown"> </font color>

[DangerSeeker]

The studios only release the bad bootlegs online so people who watch them will be disappoiinted and stop downloading them. If you'd seen it in the theater, MAN OH MAN there was some way cool stuff, like, well, I can't even begin to describe it!