is the matrix any good

[Bong_Boy]

being in the UK i havnt seen the Matrix revelutions yet please could anyone tell me if its any good plz

[Razorback]

I liked it. If you watch it with an open mind you may too. If you like the typical action movie with a predictable ending and that requires no thought process, then it is not for you.

As with all of the Matrix movies, it is best experienced by people who are aware of all the "ology" references, or by people who enjoy dialogue that demands that you pay attention (and maybe even take notes). /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

RB

[marksiwel]

I reccomand the taking notes part. Just so you can compare your thoughts to those around you. Because lets face it, alot happens in this movie. And its all little stuff and then BIG BLOWING up stuff and you tend to forget. Watch it twice bring a drink, buy a popcorn (SNEAK in a Soda and a Bag of Chips, if your a dirty theif!)

[Efexeye]

It was only ok, IMHO. Let's just say that it was no Kill Bill. I left the theater not really caring about the movie one way or another.

[KingBison]

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I felt this movie was too much of an homage to Return of the Jedi, the ulitmate trilogy ender in the history of mankind.

You got the trip to endor to knock out the Deathstar shield (Trinity and Neo going to the machine city to stop the machines)
Luke vs Vader/emperor(Neo vs Smith. And on that note did this scene remind anyone of the fight between Zod and Superman. I mean it was so campy at times, but it was still pretty hot.)
And of course the attack on the second deathstar(the attack on zion)

Hey I may be streatching here a bit, but the similaritys are there. All in all the film was ok but will never top the original in my opinion. I really liked the Zion battle. It was some of the best CG action Ive seen in a long time. A hail Captain Intensity(The guy in the walker who was going ape shit, you know who iM talking about) He carried the movie for me.

[Razorback]

Oh please... if you are going to give RETURN OF THE JEDI its dues then you have to admit that it got its ending from RETURN OF THE KING. So both MATRIX REVOLUTIONS and RETURN OF THE JEDI pay homage to RETURN OF THE KING.

The thing is, if Revolutions had come out by itself people would have pissed their pants in gushing all over it. The original Matrix is goofy, in my book... and simple. The other two are much more complex and daring. I have already wiped my ass with my THE MATRIX DVD. In the future, I will only watch the second and third movies.

RB

[FanGirl]

It made me like the second movie a bit more. The story is solid and it ended the only way it could. Everything, I thought, was set up from the beginning. It truly is Joseph Campbell's journey of the hero. The action sequences are much better than the last one.

And the following remark, pains me to say and I mean actually hurts me to say, I agree with Razorback. If you're going to compare it to a trilogy, compare it to Lord of the Rings since it does predate, well, movies. But there is a battle sequence in this that is very comparable to the Battle of Helmsdeep.

Overall, I liked it.

[KingBison]

Razorback I totally agree. They did take from Return of The king, but so does a lot of pop culture so I figured I didnt have to go there. But you are completely correct.

As far as the Matrix, yes the first one was plain and boring but it gave the movie a sort of real feel to it. You walked out of the theatre questioning reality. The second two movies were entertaining but just too diffrent from the original. Too big budget, to hollywood special effects. This is totally just my opinion so there is no need to get violent over that comment. Its as if the wachowskis are trying to hard. I dont know. They are very good directors though. I guess what Im trying to say is that I liked the sequels but since they were so diffrent from the original, the lost some of the mystique the first one had, cause it was so new and so fresh. Maybe if I watch them enough they will grow on me like Ep. 1 did.

[jjcourtright]

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I have already wiped my ass with my THE MATRIX DVD.

[/ QUOTE ] That's gotta hurt. Ehhh...ehhh.

[Razorback]

Not as much as watching it hurts.

RB

[ILovePapaSmurf]

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Luke vs Vader/emperor(Neo vs Smith. And on that note did this scene remind anyone of the fight between Zod and Superman. I mean it was so campy at times, but it was still pretty hot.)

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<font color="purple">So, agent smith is neo's father!? Crazy.... </font color>

[KingBison]

No, but there is something along those lines in the movie, its really weird.

[Razorback]

Ummm... no.

The point is that Smith becomes consumed by the need for power and... oh forget it. I'm tired of explaining this movie to people who don't seem to want to understand it. /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

RB

[Matsu_Toritaka]

Matrix Revolutions sucks, so much as the Wachowski Brothers do!! Here in Spain,people usually think as I do: the movie starts fine, but then goes to worst,just as the trilogy does, after the end you can say "hey, let's make matrix episode IV"...don't you think??

[Razorback]

Ooh... ooh! I can have a crap opinion with bad Spanish grammar now!

Su opinión es uno malo. No quiero oír su opinión otra vez. Por favor cerrado. Le odio.

RB

[ILovePapaSmurf]

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I'm tired of explaining this movie to people who don't seem to want to understand it.

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<font color="purple">I haven't seen it yet, so if I have any questions later are you telling me not to ask you? </font color>

[Razorback]

If you don't want to understand it then why would you ask? /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

RB

[ILovePapaSmurf]

<font color="purple">Stop being an ass.

I told you that I liked the matrix movie, just not the second one. And you mister are loosing your brownie points if you keep up your bitchy comments. /forums/images/icons/wink.gif </font color>

[Razorback]

Well, I hated the first so you are not winning any points with me either. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

RB

[ILovePapaSmurf]

<font color="purple">Well, at least we are on the same page with the point factors then.... /forums/images/icons/smile.gif Happy now!? </font color>

[Razorback]

I think I am still leading. /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

RB

[ILovePapaSmurf]

<font color="purple">Your cocky and arrogant manners do not work in this thread bud! </font color>

[Razorback]

I am not cocky or arrogant... just confident. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

RB

[KingBison]

And the chicks, they dig that confident thing... /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

[Razorback]

Darnit... and I thought it was my huge pepi! /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

RB

[itsfunycsitstru]

The Matrix Revolutions sucked plain and simple (In the words of Holden McNiel the idea to turn the Matrix into a trilogy is the worst idea since Greedo shooting first)(They wrote it over the weekend a couple of months ago and their kids thought it would be a good idea and we can make some money).

Ok there are 2 ways to look at it and decided if it sucked or not. If your a peaceful, anti-war, cerebral, philosophical dork you will love it. If you like good story telling and think all the problems from the original movie will be solved then you will go out thinking you have wasted 6 bucks.

I am part of the latter group nothing gets solved in this movie. Humanity is still enslaved by machines, part of the human race lives in a hole in the ground, and the matrix still lives. Neo doesnt solve any problems from the first one. Everything is the same as before its like he never even existed.

Now for a real ending if either of the W.Bros had a pair. Agent Smith assimilates Neo, and then the camera pans to him and he yells,"Is it Over!". The camera then pans back to the newly assimalated Neo Agent Smith. Close up on his sunglasses. And the Neo Agent Smith takes off his glasses to reveal Clint Eastwoods Squinting eyes and Clint says, "Yeah its over Punk!". And then prceeds to whoop ass and blow everything up freeing the human race and takeing back earth. End of story all problems are solved.

But I found this link and this guy who has way to much time on his hands and found a use for his philosophy degree breaks it down pretty good and I feel a little bit better about the movie. So go here if you feel as cheated as I do it will make you feel somewhat better. http://webpages.charter.net/btakle/matrix_reloaded.html#architect

[Razorback]

Moron... if you are going to spoil the movie then at least WARN people. Also, your initial contention that the movie sucks "plain and simple" is stupid. Watch:

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There is a resolution... there is a point. This was a game between the Oracle and the Architect and the Oracle won. The war between the machines and humans was stopped because of a common threat, Smith. The One will return again, some day and this will happen all over again (this time with a different resolution).

One could argue that this is a movie about a war between Heaven and Hell and that the machines and humans are pawns of that game.


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RB

[itsfunycsitstru]

Warning spoilers

Do you really care?

You are hear for spoilers anyway right?

Unless you're here to whine and moan about movies right?

So quit whining about that fact you may have read something about a movie you have been dieing to see because you wouldnt be hear if you were dieing to see it you wouldnt go near the interent because that's what the interent and sites like this are for so grow up.

Thank You and now on to the rant.




Ok that's a pretty crappy resolution. And I pointed that out that if you like that kind of bullsh*t, hippie philosopical, lets all hold hands, compromise resolution then it was just what you wanted. But for those of us who believe that for a good story to be told you have to have a resolution of the initial problem which wasnt Smith but the fact that Machines Ruled the earth and lets all stop that.

What it comes down to is "The Matrix" was a stand alone movie just Like Star Wars in 1976, But here's where they differ Empire continued the story Lucas was telling. The W. Bros instead of continuing on their story of humans vs machines and not excepting the reality you live in and all that crap. Decided to make the whole thing one big metaphor which is great if you go to movies to have metaphors thrown at you, but it doesnt make a good story. And that's why it sucked. The story doesnt end because the original problems are never solved. Its an ambiguous cop-out ending. That all the effects and battles scenes where suppose to cover up this fact and they failed.

So there take your cerebral your smarter than me bullsh*t somewhere else because it could have been a great movie that supported the second one and solved the problems of the first one. Instead you have to continuously analyze and look at all the different angles of the movie, and every little detail to get a real meaning when in fact there isn't any in there. There are a hundred different interpretations of the movie and what it means. And with that you dont get a good story you have a philosophical shit pile.

Have a nice day!

[Threadkiller]

Look, I don't care about your opinion of the movie. But I would appreciate it if you wouldn't tell me the ending without warning me first. And I'm sure it's not just me as this has come up before. It is common courtesy.

[Droogan_Leader]

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Instead you have to continuously analyze and look at all the different angles of the movie

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God forbid! Boy, I think you might be legally retarded.

[KingBison]

Droogan I think hes a fax machine...You know what you have to do.

[JK]

With all the posts on this thread, I had a difficult time choosing where to insert myself, but in the end it wasn't that hard- go to the Source *wink-wink*

I just got back from watching the movie- I spent my last seven bucks on it. I will be happily munching on Raman noodles for the next five days, wishing I had another seven dollars to go see it again. Having watched The Matrix, The Animatrix, and Matrix Reloaded a dozen times a piece, I just don't see how the movie could have ended in any other way. Before any of you get your dander up, there are no spoilers here... The ending of Revolution obeys the rules laid down by the previous films. Before you complain that "some rules can be bent. Others can be broken" hear me out- Here's an analogy- a werewolf movie- in this movie- this universe created for this story, the absolute only thing that can kill the werewolf is a silver bullet, because the werewolf itself is a supernatural being. That is a constant, that is a rule that cannot be broken. And all the characters know that, in this universe, the only possible way of killing the werewolf is a silver bullet. In the end- the final confrontation, our hero uses his last silver bullet and the gun is empty and smoking in his hand, but the werewolves are still coming. According to the rules of this universe, our hero is a dead man, but suddenly our hero whips out a crucifix and the werewolves are slain, burned to a crisp by the wrath of God. Most of the audience feels cheated, even if they aren't fully aware of why they feel cheated- But most of the audience is relieved as well because the hero was saved at the last to carry on and fight another day. But the filmmakers cheated- the only way to kill the werewolf was a silver bullet. In the reality of this universe, our hero's hand should have been bitten off and used as a chew-toy. The same applies to Revolutions- for it to end any other way, they would have had to cheat and break the rules they wrote for themselves in the first films. Of course, a lot of people do feel consciously cheated because of their desire for a final walk in the sunshine with our heros. But according to the rules of the movie, they served their purpose and this chapter ended. Neo had an absolute purpose, but because of Smith, who became a new variable in the equation the Architect described- his purpose was altered. The Oracle had wanted this to be the absolute end, but because of Smith, her designs have been put on hold, leaving room for more stories to be told.

[Droogan_Leader]

[Insert badass background music]

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Ss/0151804/office1.jpg

[jjcourtright]

Show some respect, it's not just any badass background music, it's the Geto Boys.

[Jack_Sparrow]

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What it comes down to is "The Matrix" was a stand alone movie

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I actually agree with this point only from that post.

In my opinion the Matrix trilogy was never intented to be so. I believe that hungry for more cash warner bros and the brothers Wachowski decided to cash in on their new baby ?

Hey i maybe wrong but its just a theory.

I won't bash revolutions i haven't seen it yet ( and probably won't)

[ILovePapaSmurf]

<font color="purple">Wait, wait, wait. Didn't the bros have all three scripts before the movie was actually making the big bucks? I could be wrong, but hey what's new.

I am going to be staying far, far away from this movie. I don't know but Elf and Love Actually has my 8 bucks this weekend.. </font color>

[psychofiend]

I thought that the 3rd Matrix was awesome and that there was a lot less of the things that pissed me off in the last one (15 minute porno, for instance).

[Droogan_Leader]

My apologies, JJ. I would change what I said but I can't edit it anymore /forums/images/icons/frown.gif

[john]

the film was sweet with a lot more action but they could have made it better in so many ways

[Razorback]

The "porno" lasted the length of the song... 4:33. Only about 1 minute of which involved actual sex.

RB

[ILovePapaSmurf]

<font color="purple">And showing Keanu's ass did limit the quality of the movie...it was scary.... </font color>

[john]

hahahahahahah wat if he doesent act good coz this is a movie site not a fine ass site even though theres a huge ass at the front

[john]

i agree with old hand here

[Matt1]

I liked it. Not on the same visceral kind of level I liked the first two, but I liked it. As a lot of people seem to have said, it was the only way it could have ended. Say what you will, it wasn't bad storytelling.

People who say there wasn't a resolution obviously weren't paying much attention toward the end. Sorry if it wasn't the kind of rah-rah jingoistic Independence Day type ending you were looking for.

Also, if the Wachowski Brothers were really just in it for the money, wouldn't they have tried to make the most accesible pop-corn movie possible, that all the teenie boppers would go back and see five times in a row?

I expect a few years down the line that there is going to be alot of people changing their tune.

[Droogan_Leader]

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I expect a few years down the line that there is going to be alot of people changing their tune.

[/ QUOTE ]
In the meantime, I'm tired of trying to convince people looking for Independence Day 2 to go see it. My friend actually bailed on my brother and I, because he was so hesitant to 'waste his time like that'. The longer I live, the less I try to convince stupid people to not be stupid.

Anyway, it was a great movie. I'm very pleased that it wasn't a happy-go-lucky ending. I'm not deep enough to understand all the philosophizing going around about the movies, but I appreciate it enough to know it was well done. Maybe it'll be unpopular enough that I'll be able to find the trilogy when it comes out.

[JK]

If people had been paying attention, they would have realized they got their rah-rah ending two movies ago... "Reloaded" and "Revolutions" apparently takes place between the time Morpheus hits the EMP and Neo places his phone call. In Reloaded, Neo had no idea what he was supposed to do- absolutley no clue. He still didn't until he sat down and thought about it in "Revolutions" When he makes the call on 9-19-99 (a year and a half after he's removed from the Matrix, shortly following 2-19-98) and states that he can feel 'them' and he knows they're afraid and he's going to show those still hooked into the Matrix a world "without you"... It's all there... if people would look past the pretty explosions and the slow-motion lead salads they wouldn't be as pissed off. I mean, Heaven forbid a movie would require some thought...

[john]

the matrix is a film which can be very very complcated for no particular reason it messes wi ur mind but the fighting in it is cool

[itsfunycsitstru]

Warning Spoilers ok





Aiight the Matrix Revolutions sucked. The effects were cool, the fight scenes pretty good, but nothing we haven't seen from the first 2 movies and ripped off DBZ a little bit but thats ok, I can deal. But the story the way it was told and the way everything was explained sucked, and that compromise with the Machines at the end is ridiculous. What stops them from turning around and killing all the humans. I watch the first Matrix again and it was great. I even watch the second one which was pretty good and you know what I realized is the whole thing is a B movie with good effects and philosophical bullshit thrown into the mix.

And the best thing about the whole damn thing is Hugo Weaving. That guy is the only one in the whole trilogy that embraces the B movieness. I mean the plot is pretty standard machines take over the earth, but instead of having a regular good old ending where evil is punished and earth is reclaimed we get crap. I do have to admit I love Weaving in the movie. I go back and listen to when he spits out a"MR. Anderson" its pretty cool.

But in the end the movie sucked, the story wasn't good, the only thing that there is to be happy about is that we won't have a prequel trilogy for at least 25 to 30 years. When the W. Bros are fading into obscurity and need to revamp the whole thing.

[Razorback]

To start off, you are probably not very intelligent so your analysis of this movie is already a joke:

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Aiight the Matrix Revolutions sucked

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No, the movie was actually pretty good.

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The effects were cool, the fight scenes pretty good, but nothing we haven't seen from the first 2 movies and ripped off DBZ a little bit but thats ok, I can deal.

[/ QUOTE ]

I wouldn't know how it ripped off DBZ, since only idiots and little children watch that crap...

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But the story the way it was told and the way everything was explained sucked, and that compromise with the Machines at the end is ridiculous

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Really? Why was it ridiculous? Other than the fact that you believe that the machines could have gone against the agreement (the machine world follows a directive, and Neo would not have made any deal without feeling secure in the fact that the Matrix would stick to it).

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I watch the first Matrix again and it was great

[/ QUOTE ]

No, see that movie sucked. That was philosophical bullshit filled with cute little action sequences borrowed from every Asian movie ever made.

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the whole thing is a B movie with good effects and philosophical bullshit thrown into the mix.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is what is tiresome about stupid people reviewing these movies. You all say the same thing... Reloaded and Revolutions are NOT based around philosophy. Since you are such a little underachieving genius I will let you tell me what their "ology" structure is based around.

Since you won't be able to answer it (because you are just restating what you have heard everywhere else) I will eventually reveal the correct answer (but only after you make yourself look even more stupid).

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That guy is the only one in the whole trilogy that embraces the B movieness

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(as a side note: Didn't the brothers slam Lucas for making B-Movies with the new Star Wars movies? Now it is ok for them to do the same? I actually think it funny that their fan base (many of who slam Star Wars) now find the theme perfectly okay.)

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I mean the plot is pretty standard machines take over the earth, but instead of having a regular good old ending where evil is punished and earth is reclaimed we get crap.

[/ QUOTE ]

Go back to watching DBZ because simplistic plots like that of Revolutions are over your head. The plot was anything but standard.

Even bigger SPOILERS, perhaps some RETURN OF THE KING ones

Neo is the sacrifice... his quest is to go to the beginning of the Matrix and to cast his soul into its fires. He makes a deal, knowing that he cannot defeat Smith (who has now turned into a super virus... or a worm). The Oracle allows for Smith's need for power to consume her because that is how she will overpower him when the One is consumed (and the power of the two, now mixed with a virus created by the power of Neo, destroy the virus).

The two go at it alone, without any weapons, and are killed while saving humanity. That is standard? How many times did Will Smith die in ID4 while saving humanity? Luke Skywalker? Hell, Frodo, Sam, Aragorn, and Gimli? How many of these characters die on the way to save their story? Yet in Revolutions our two heroes die while humanity survives... but for how long? This is standard? A plot where the answer is left dangling?

But even more importantly, at the end it is revealed to us that this was all a game between the Oracle and the Architect. The Oracle wanted to see programs freed from deletion and the Architect wanted to carry out his directive. The two Gods battled for their agenda within the Matrix, using the souls of humans, machines and thinking code as their tool.

This is standard? This is not a good story? I guess that I should be happy that I do not share the opinion of some people because I don't want to walk around with the mindset that considers ORIGINAL concepts (or previous concepts presented in original ways) to be "standard" or sucky.

Anyway, I have saved some things for the next response, since I expect it. I can't wait to hear what "ology" you think Reloaded and Revolutions represent.

RB

[ILovePapaSmurf]

<font color="purple">Well, my bro saw the matrix (I saw elf, so cute, I cried...) and he says, "That is seriously the best movie ever." I highly doubt that since he said that for every matrix movie. But, I guess he liked it. </font color>

[Razorback]

I don't worry about whether or not people dislike the movies... but when someone clearly misunderstands the plot and conclusion, and then claims to know what it meant, then I care. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

RB

[KingBison]

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So as not to be looped in with the uninformed who never care to be informed, someone please tell me what the fuck that ending meant. I just didnt get it. MY assumption is that this whole thing was a game between the architect and the Oracle cause they are really [censored] board. Other than that I am lost.

The reason for this is that nothing gets resolved. No one wins the war. Neo Dies Trinity dies, The matrix still exists. Yes I know she said release the ones that werent free, but if you sneezed you would have missed that. Thats not a conclusion.

[Razorback]

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Thats not a conclusion.

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************SPOILERS***********

It is the conclusion to the story of the Oracle and the Architect during the time of the war between the humans and the machines at a point when exiled programs sought freedom from deletion.

Now, you may not like that ending and that is fine and dandy... but that does not make it a bad ending, just an ending that you did not like to see. While the movie has some problems, I loved its final scenes.

Bravo!

Poor little humans and machines... tools! /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif Ok, so the ending wasn't that nefarious but, from a certain point of view, it could be viewed that way.

RB

[Matt1]

I don't buy that. I think it was just a gaffe on the part of the Wachowski Brothers.

Neo's not coming back. At least, not as we know him.

[KingBison]

Hold on Hold on

First where did you gets these dates, and second, apparently the second movie is a continuation. Isnt it.... its really late when I wrote this.. be kind

[JK]

The Oracle said that they'd see Neo again. And it's possible that Neo is still around- He was able to jack in with actually plugging in, his mind essential a program running separate fom his body. It's possible his 'program' survived the final confrontation with Smith, just as the Oracle, Seriph, and everyone else that Smith had overwritten. But really, I think the brothers are seriously trying to put as many different layers into this cake just to fuck with everybody's heads.

[Razorback]

SPOILERS

Why do you complicate the obvious? The programs all returned to their previous form because the virus was removed. Neo, on the other hand, died. However, his identity may still survive somewhere in the Matrix.

RB

[Dr3vil]

SPOILS

Neo didn't die, he went into a coma. Even though he looked lifeless, his body was shinning most brightly of all when it went into "energy vision." His body may not be of any use now except as tool to broadcast his consciousness, wherever it may be, but he's not quite dead yet.

I personally bought the ending because once the machines learned they couldn't necessarily survive without the aid of humanity, they'd be far less likely to wipe them out en masse. The ending did seem a little too story book-happy at first, but I think it's coherent enough.

[Razorback]

SPOI

I thought about that after we see him glowing, but that could mean something else. I would like to hear what the brothers have to say about it.

RB

[Dr3vil]

LERS

HA! I'd like to see what they have to say too, but ever since the brothers encased themselves in their contractual cone of silence, the chances of that have grown slim. Hopefully they'll start talking within the next year or so, but we may have to wait for the next round of Matrix movies, the next Matrix game, or the tenth anniversary "Blu-ray" media format Matrix compilation release with commentary before they start yappin' and/or we find out what happened to Neo.

[Matt1]

I doubt that they'll ever do a commentary. I think they've bought into the whole mystique thing, like Spielberg has.

[in_diana_jones]

not that i agree with this, but i stumbled upon this image on the net...enjoy....

http://www.jehovahswitnessonline.com/images/matrixsucks.jpg

[KingBison]

hahahahahahahha *cough* *cough* /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

[Matt1]

Spoilers

The whole energy vision thing has left me puzzled, as have Neo's powers in the "real world." I put real world in quotations, because I'm not entirely sure that it is. Neo's enegy vision, was extremely similar to the way he viewed code within the Matrix. Maybe that energy was code.

Maybe it was the code of a higher being? But then, why would only the machines be illuminated? What does it say about Neo and his nature that he was glowing at the end?

The Oracle's answer of, basically, "Your powers come from the source" didn't quite seem to be a sufficent enough answer for me.

[Razorback]

I think that we are to believe that the Matrix and the real world can interact in both planes through the One. Neo has only shown himself to have power over machines and code, so it would only make sense that his power is based around the source.

RB

[karmattack]

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I think that we are to believe that the Matrix and the real world can interact in both planes through the One. Neo has only shown himself to have power over machines and code, so it would only make sense that his power is based around the source.


[/ QUOTE ] Plus, I think there is something to be said about (and Morpheus states this in the construct scene in the original movie) how reality is a simulation based on the same rules that allow the matrix to exist -- our brain interprets sight, smells, touch, etc. and "The One" basically learned to apply his control of the matrix to reality. He seems to only have special powers relating to things tied into the machine world/matrix/source. That's how it makes sense to me.

[cade]

WOW. that's all i should say but i will continue. i am a matrix fan. scratch that i am a matrix top 100 fan. most people hated the second one but for me i liked it mroe than the original because it played with my head and took me a month to conclude my thoughts and map everything out which the first one took a few days to do so. since i am a college student and am not able to see the matrix 3 at midnight on nov 5th i was able to see it afterwards. let me give my opinion on this film that should've been great. i heard that it was bad but i plugged my ears for a few days and yelled at people talking about it in public. i finally got the chance to see it, sittin on the edge of my seat waiting to find out how would such a great movie beautifully end i sat there for two hours and 9 minutes hoping for a good ending and was left with a feeling of hopelessness and anger. the third movie was horrible. the music sucked. the graphics were great but not half as what we've seen in the second one. the one good scene of graphics was the neo to smith punch at the end. the ending was the worst ending in hollywood history. it was horrible. and the feeling of knowing that i will not get another movie no matter how much theya re paid will haunt my thoughts forever. the movie was defnitely worth seeing to give you some closure but just yo let you know out there that closure was horrible and this movie would be a good movie if they didnt get our hopes up from the first and second ones. this one sucked. it [censored] SUCKED.

-cz

[psychofiend]

You wanna know something sad?? I actually almost read through that BS a second time, because you posted it twice!!!

[Razorback]

Wow... you said something that was ACTUALLY funny!

RB

[psychofiend]

Da Rules say that I have to say at least one thing that you find funny every month.
http://www.azcentral.com/ent/gifs/1113entoddparents_s.jpg

[ILovePapaSmurf]

<font color="purple">I'm still waiting for that one funny thing. /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif </font color>

[psychofiend]

Da Rules say nothing about you, cause you're in a totally different cartoon.

[ILovePapaSmurf]

<font color="purple">Damn. Should I be pissed about that or are you saying that I am special!? </font color>

[psychofiend]

I think you should ask cosmo.
http://www.nick.com/all_nick/tv_supersites/fairly_odd/images/rules_cosmo.gif

[ILovePapaSmurf]

<font color="purple">Cosmo, am I special!? </font color>

[psychofiend]

Uhhh... yes? /forums/images/icons/confused.gif

[ILovePapaSmurf]

<font color="purple">YAY! Thanks Cosmo and Psycho! /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif </font color>