KILL BILL [Archive] - FRED Entertainment

Droogan_Leader

10-10-2003, 05:39 PM

Alright, I just got back from the movie. I went with my brother, and we were just quiet the whole way home. It is awe-inspiring. Go see it as soon as you possibly can, but don't go during a busy Saturday late-night showing. Go when there aren't many people--this is a movie you have to have quiet for--to relish every detail. I am very impressed.

ILovePapaSmurf

10-10-2003, 06:35 PM

Oh, I can't wait!!!! I am going to see it tonight at the 10:30 showing since the people I am going with have to work until 10. I am really really looking forward to this!!! /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

DangerSeeker

10-10-2003, 10:54 PM

I'm angry at how much I like this movie, compared to how much I dislike Quentin as a person. Not as a director, but as a person.

Droogan_Leader

10-10-2003, 10:59 PM

Put away your biases, Danger. This movie is simply scrumtrelicious. It is..a..delight!

Razorback

10-11-2003, 12:05 AM

I haven't seen it yet, but I get this feeling that the movie is another Matrix... over-hyped and overrated by Internet geeks who are dying for something "kewl" to hold them over until the next big thing is "ubah kewl."

I will see it Monday. I will trash the fuck out of it if it isn't the greatest movie ever made... I swear, I will burn my Tarantino movies if it isn't the end all, be all that people are pretending it is. I PROMISE!!!!!!

RB /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

PicoTheRevolver

10-11-2003, 12:33 AM

Let's just say, don't get the fire pit ready. This is the best action movie, possibly best MOVIE I've ever seen, PERIOD. The acting was superb (except for a small bit of the snow-garden dialogue, at the very beginning), and this is the first movie in YEARS that I didn't look at my watch once and when it was over, I though it was SUPER short. The japanese history involved, the traditions, the warehouse full of metaphors spread throughout the volume...I'm just so [censored] impressed. I'm going to go see this again...maybe a third time. The music was off the hook, the camera techniques (the b & w to color transfer was very impressive). Whoever's reading this who hasn't seen it yet...get your ass in a car, bus, truck, whatever...and go see this incredible movie. You'll thank yourself after it...simply orgasmic. Bravo, Tarantino...gonna be a long four months.

DangerSeeker

10-11-2003, 04:59 AM

I'm not going Pico here. I have been waiting for an excuse to burn my Tarantino collection, and didn't get it. Best movie ever? Fuck no. Fun? Fuck yeah. RB, just go for mindless violence, you should enjoy. Not every movie is a make or break. This is firmly middle. Escapist camp candy, but a sweeet candy.

Razorback

10-11-2003, 05:21 AM

We will see... but when I hear "this is the best movie I have ever seen" it better live up to the hype. /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

RB

ILovePapaSmurf

10-11-2003, 06:00 AM

Ok...this is all I can say.

*cough*In Joey Lawrence 'fashion'

WOAH! /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

Razorback

10-11-2003, 06:12 AM

That's not very comforting. /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

RB

ILovePapaSmurf

10-11-2003, 06:16 AM

What didn't you understand about it!? The film rocked!

psychofiend

10-11-2003, 09:18 AM

<blockquote>In reply to:<hr />
I'm angry at how much I like this movie, compared to how much I dislike Quentin as a person

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Well... from all of the interviews I've seen of Quentin in the many DvDs I have with his commentary and such; I think me and Tarrentino could have conversations that last for days because we are both huge movie geeks. I wanted to make movies before I saw any of his films but they all inspired me and when i saw his interviews I realized a geek like me can make movies.
About Kill Bill. I loved everything surrounding the movie including the fact that I had a cute date to watch it with. I loved all the violence (and so did she) and I loved the way it was all segmented. God am I glad the girl I saw it with didn't end up going to lock-up for selling that weed in school. I am in love with the movie and almost there with the girl I saw it with.

FanBoy

10-11-2003, 12:18 PM

Its Probably the best movie of the year good thing volume 2 comes out next year so we can say that its going to be the best movie of 2004

Jack_Sparrow

10-11-2003, 12:28 PM

Just curious why you don't like QT as a person ?? Do you know him or is your dislike based on his movies or something he has said/done?

I only ask as i have always found him quite amiable ! sure i like his movies but he has such enthusiasm for what he does and its nice to see!! everyone always bitches and moans what they do , i think he seems pretty kool ??

Droogan_Leader

10-11-2003, 01:50 PM

RB, I didn't say it was my 'favorite movie of all time, yay, it's so cool, I wet my pants'. I said it was scrumtrelicious. And, indeed, it is..a delight.

You'll like it. I dare you to try not to like it in fact.

DangerSeeker

10-11-2003, 04:19 PM

A good part of it is based on things he says, like when he recently said "Fuck the comic book geeks." Another thing that bugs me is the way he takes most of the credit for the collaborative efforts that result in his films. He acts as though he built every set, shot every shot, so forth.

Then there's his misogynist tendencies, but that's a whole long diatribe. As for how much he can talk about movies and so gorth, he doesn't seem like the type to let anyone else get a word in edgewise.

The high regard he has for himself is amazing and misguided. He said he spent all that time to make "Kill Bill" a movie like nothing that had come before it, completely original. It is far from original, and if you don't believe me, read the script. It specifically cites some of what he copies.

I'm not saying anyone here has to agree (also read as: nobody's changing my mind), just that this is why I don't like the guy.

Razorback

10-11-2003, 05:18 PM

The more I read about it the more I think that I am going to hate it. This sounds so much like what people were saying about the Matrix... the worst movie ever made by anyone on the planet, ever... EVER!

Seriously, it sucked.

RB

ILovePapaSmurf

10-11-2003, 05:27 PM

RB, seriously, this movie is NOTHING like the matrix.

And I totally agree with you on the matrix...down with it!

Razorback

10-11-2003, 05:28 PM

Oh ok... then maybe I will dig it.

RB

ratm1966

10-11-2003, 05:51 PM

I am gonna go watch Kill Bill tonight.

ratm1966

10-11-2003, 05:52 PM

Wait! You mean I wasn't the only person in the universe who didn't really care for the Matrix movies?

Razorback

10-11-2003, 05:58 PM

Let's just make something clear... I dig MATRIX RELOADED and I can't wait to buy it on Tuesday. The first one is under a bed somewhere and I will NEVER watch it again, unless it is a means to sex. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

RB

ratm1966

10-11-2003, 06:14 PM

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The first one is under a bed somewhere and I will NEVER watch it again, unless it is a means to sex.

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That was too funny...lol

Droogan_Leader

10-11-2003, 06:16 PM

You would sacrifice your scruples for carnal pleasure, RB? My opinion of you is totally shattered.

Matt1

10-11-2003, 06:24 PM

Saw it last night in a near empty theater, that had about eight other people in it. First of all, the whole cutting the movie into two parts thing is crap. By the time it was over I was ready to go for another four hours.

One thing you should know going in, if it doesn't become readily apparent to you within the first 10 minutes: This is a movie. It is not a "film." It is a dyed in the wool, full-blooded, movie. No lofty philosophical aspirations. No important thematic underpinnings I could discern. I don't know, maybe that stuff will come along in the second part, but this was just 100 proof pure grain motherfuckin' ass-kicking. A veritable geek smorgasbord.

Tarantino is one of the greatest action directors of all time. Who would of thunk it?

So, I guess you could say I liked it.

Oh, and by the way: Go-Go forever!

Razorback

10-11-2003, 07:39 PM

Oh yeah... sex is worth suffering through 2 hours of horrid junk.

RB

Zens_7s

10-11-2003, 07:48 PM

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Oh yeah... sex is worth suffering through 2 hours of horrid junk.

[/ QUOTE ] Not when the sex turns out to be 2 hours of horrid junk too. /forums/images/icons/smirk.gif Not that I am disclosing information about my former not swinging-from-chandeliers sex life or anything. No really, completely disregard I said that.

Razorback

10-11-2003, 08:31 PM

Well, I would suffer through the Matrix for sex that wasn't horrid.

RB

PicoTheRevolver

10-11-2003, 09:27 PM

Okay, repeated what I had said, I had said it was "POSSIBLY the best movie I've seen" which is, of course, among a large group. Yes, best action movie IMO. But my best movies have changed, going...
1. Royal Tenenbaums
2. Kill Bill
3. Snatch
4. Citizen Kane

Flame as you will, these movies are the pretty much the only ones that have ever inspired me in my screenwriting. Personally, I enjoyed the first Matrix, haven't seen the second yet, but the third looks pretty intense. The Animatrix, now THAT was way more entertaining than the Matrix...but then again, that wasn't a theater release. *shrug*

Razorback

10-11-2003, 09:34 PM

I just think that anyone who proclaims a movie they have just seen as the greatest anything (whether possibly or anything else) should be taken out back, tarred, feathered, shot, stabbed, and then hung by the neck until they die. But that's just my opinion and I am sure that some would not follow that line of thinking. /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

RB

ILovePapaSmurf

10-11-2003, 10:25 PM

The first matrix was ok, not the best. But, when I saw Reloaded, I was like, this movie is shit. It was a total love fest, didn't dig most of the dialouge when I saw it. Mind you I was on 3 hours of sleep, was up for 25 hours straight and saw the midnight showing, and still wasn't thrilled. But, it shows dedication on how much hope I had for this film. *sigh* Ninja Turtles is way better than the second matrix. /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

ratm1966

10-12-2003, 03:55 PM

Might have spoiler info in it for those that haven't watched it yet.

To get this thread back on track....I just watched 'Kill Bill' last night and thought it was a great movie. Pretty much non-stop action and blood from beginning to end.

{Side Note} I saw part of an interview with QT and he said he broke the movie into two 90 minute movies instead of one long 3 hour movie, because it seemed pretentious to put out a 3 hour movie. I think I would have enjoyed sitting through 3 hours of 'Kill Bill'. It's not like it was a Kostner movie you know. Now those are pretentious 3 hour movies that no one should have to sit through.

Back to 'Kill Bill'. I did like the merger of live action with Japanese Anime. I guess it was the only way to reveal the history of how 'Cotton Mouth' came about without going to jail. Afterall, I guess you can't have a real 11 year old half dressed girl sitting on a naked guy now can you? I also liked the over-exageration of blood when someone got cut.

This movie was definitely a must see.

Razorback

10-12-2003, 04:01 PM

Whatever you say.

RB

ILovePapaSmurf

10-12-2003, 04:18 PM

You know you love me RB.

I was kind of sad when the movie ended. I really wanted it to go on and on. I could have sat through it. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

Dr3vil

10-12-2003, 06:25 PM

Awesome movie. I never could have imagined so many styles of film being integrated so seemlessly. It ties everything that ever made an action, anime, or kung fu movie good together in an indisputably original package. 2nd best movie of the year, instant cult classic, go see it, now shoo.

Jack_Sparrow

10-12-2003, 06:33 PM

2nd ? just curious what was your first ??

Razorback

10-12-2003, 06:40 PM

So far your movie is the best of the year, Jack. /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

RB

Jack_Sparrow

10-12-2003, 06:47 PM

i agree until december it will remain so !!

Razorback

10-12-2003, 06:52 PM

Actually, there is a movie coming out in 2 weeks that is the best movie of the year. The one coming in December will get high marks for being HUGE, loud, and full of action. But that won't make it the best. /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

RB

Threadkiller

10-12-2003, 07:20 PM

Kill Bill in short:

-Lot's of fun
-Heavy on style, action, watery samurai-movie-blood spraying as if from a lawn sprinkler.
-Light on substance but you won't notice.
-Very heavy on style.
-QT's dialogue is as unique and easy to recognize as Woody Allen's or Kevin Smith's (not sure if that's a good thing but it probably is)
-QT is not afraid to recycle things from his previous movies if he thinks they are cool enough.

I'd say go see this movie. I love stylistic stuff and this thing could only have been made by a huge movie geek with a keen sense for a kind of cool he has made his own.

Dr3vil

10-12-2003, 11:03 PM

Actually, Reloaded was my #1 (for the stunt and philosophy part, not the movie part), but Pirates is certainly up there, albeit narrowly behind X2. As for that other Ian McKellen flick, we all know it will be good, but will it floor us like the fellowship or simply suffice like towers?

DarthMaulRat

10-13-2003, 12:45 AM

I just got the last tickets to the LOTR trilogy at the New Brunswick, NJ, theatre. King of Prussia, Cherry Hill, NYC, all sold out. I can't wait to sit some 10 hours and then see ROTK early.

As for Kill Bill, all I can do is applaud Tarantino for taking the elements of old movies and combining them into somthing I've never seen before. The only way I could describe the movie to my friends without spoiling it is to say the movie is both an homage to and spoof of 70's kung fu films.

Also, anyone else notice that Kill Bill is much funnier than most of the comedies this year, even though the movie is clearly an action flick first?

10-13-2003, 01:14 AM

In the now infamous words of Senator John Blutarski- " HOE-lee SHIT!!! " That was a FUN movie- but I was kinda let down- everyone talked about it being a blood bath, but I wasn't impressed- it was no Evil Dead, but DAMN that was cool flick... can't wait for February.

Efexeye

10-13-2003, 12:04 PM

This movie was the sheeeyit- great action, great cinematography, plenty of winking Tarantino in-jokes, and SWEET music. I saw it at 9:50 on Friday, then did sonmething I have never done before- went to the box office and bought another ticket to see it at Midnight. I've seen the same movie in the theater multiple times, but NEVER on the same day before.

And how hot is Go-Go?

Spawn

10-15-2003, 09:44 AM

I HAVENT SEEN IT YET BUT CANT WAIGHT EITHER IT LOOKS GREAT AFTER SEEING THE TRAILLER!!!!! /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

Tom_Hagen

10-27-2003, 11:36 PM

Quentin Tarantino has proved once again that despite some directorial ability he is still a [censored] hack. I just keep wondering when this once promising director will give up his penchant for writing and let someone else have the opportunity to perhaps allow him to be a vehicle for actual art or- perhaps even an empty movie that isnt a piece of shit. Tarantino has proved that he has the ability to shock us, almost entertain us and certainly to give a feel of pop-culture irony-- but in my opinion these are aspects of a movie or cinematic vision-- they dont make a product themselves. He's got the makings of an expression, but absolutely nothing to express but a botched graphic sort of "feedback" of culture that wasn't really great in the first place- it just remains now as a period piece. And though his constant use of pop-cultures present and past seems to allude to that all too overdone concept that in a modern media society "art is dead", I realized while watching this film that the director doesnt even understand or explore this concept. He's not being ironic- he actually MADE this piece of shit to be viewed. I'm a big fan of violence used in drama, - or even the senseless, but entertaining use of violence in action movies. But "Kill Bill" is neither. And it's certainly not "good". It's a shockingly bloody disjointed mess, that is so over-the-top gory its boring. I actually think its most interesting when one considers that Tarantino not only wrote the script, but directs as well. Psychologically the implications...well I dont know, seems pretty [censored] to me. Overall its amazing. Go see it in theaters just for the experience of understanding what a waste of potential Tarantino is, but outside of that dont rent this movie or even give its lame concept any thought. Its a piece of [censored] trash.

Matt1

10-28-2003, 12:41 AM

So... are you going to see Vol. 2? /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

Ryall

10-28-2003, 03:41 AM

That was a long paragraph. And I disagree with about all of it, but I'm glad you broke your silence and poster here anyway.

Droogan_Leader

10-28-2003, 03:41 AM

I think he's a believer.

Dandarko

10-28-2003, 07:13 AM

Volume 1 is excellent,the style it was done,the humour the action all brilliant but the thing that im worried about is whether volume 2 will be able to hold up. The only reason volume had the anime influence and anime was because of oren ishii.

Tom_Hagen

10-28-2003, 05:17 PM

hey thanx,
this is the first time ive ever posted on any board, not to mention one so infamous as moviepoopshoot.com. Seems pretty chill. I guess the length and rant-like nature of my first post are due to my disappointment with how "Kill Bill" was and could have been. What did u like about this film--(If its already somewhere online, could u give me the link?)