For you Zwan/Smashing Pumpkin Fans...

[Zens_7s]

Zwan is no more.
Click here to read the Chicago Tribune Story. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-030915corgan,1,6333884.story?coll=chi-homepagenews-utl)

Edit: Scroll down if you don't have a Tribune log-in, I pasted it. Sorry!

"My heart was in Smashing Pumpkins," and the new band just couldn't generate the same magic and feeling of family, Corgan said."

[Droogan_Leader]

The link says only registered users can view it /forums/images/icons/confused.gif

*Actually, it says registration is free, so we're okay!

I love the Pumpkins, but never got a chance to listen to the Zwan Cd. Is it worth buying? I'm getting ready to sign up for BMG [again], and have thought of picking it up as one of my 12 free selections /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

[Zens_7s]

Ex-Pumpkin Corgan says Zwan is history

Tribune staff reports
Published September 15, 2003, 9:48 AM CDT

Billy Corgan's second act — Zwan — is over. The band has broken up, the former Smashing Pumpkins singer-guitarist announced this morning.

"A couple of people asked me, 'Why didn't you tell anybody?' I'm sort of out of the period of my life when I run around trying to generate news," Corgan said during an interview on WGN-Ch. 9's Morning News.




"My heart was in Smashing Pumpkins," and the new band just couldn't generate the same magic and feeling of family, Corgan said.

"I really enjoyed my experience with Zwan, but at the end of the day, without that sense of deeper family loyalty, it just becomes like anything else."

"Our attitude in the Pumpkins was, it was a do or die proposition, and that got us through all the hard times we went through, particularly with the Pumpkins where we had two members with serious drug problems," he said.

"Without that sense of family, rock 'n' roll isn't worth the trouble."

Corgan begins the third act in his career 6:30 p.m. Wednesday with his first public reading of poetry at the Poetry Center in the Rubloff Auditorium of the Art Institute, 111 S. Michigan Ave., Chicago.

"My first dream as a kid was to be a writer. Music came later," Corgan said.

"I'm 36 years old. I'm ready for a solo career. I feel really good about what I've done."

The singer-guitarist founded the Pumpkins in 1987, and with James Iha, D'Arcy Wretzky and Jimmy Chamberlin enjoyed commercial success as one of the biggest rock bands ever to come out of Chicago, with a 13-year run and 25 million album sales.

After the Pumpkins broke up, Corgan and Chamberlin formed Zwan. The new band played clubs for a year before releasing its first CD, "Mary Star of the Sea," last January.
Copyright © 2003, Chicago Tribune

[Droogan_Leader]

Thank you, Zens, that was very nice of you.

[Zens_7s]

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I love the Pumpkins, but never got a chance to listen to the Zwan Cd. Is it worth buying?

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Yes, I liked the CD quite a bit. It is very laidback sunny rock, in the vein of "1979". I thought it was well worth the money.

A song I really dig by them is "Always". I heard it in the movie Spun and then aquired it *ahem* through some other channels. It's not on "Mary Star of the Sea".

[matthew_almeida]

Did anyone here see "SPUN" it was by the same director as "Requiem For A Dream" anyways point is for all you Billy Corgan fans he did the whole musical score and soundtrack for the movie so if your a fan i suggest you rent it, and if you liked requiem i think you'll like it, its quite similar. and well the music is great!

[Zens_7s]

Ummm yep. Hence why I said "I heard it in the movie Spun". They did a great job with the soundtrack. The Phantom Planet (Schwartzman's band) stuff was good also. If any of you are going to see it, watch the Unrated version. It's sort of wacky what was removed and blurred and bleeped in the rated version.

Not to be nitpicky dude, but it is not the same directior. Spun was directed by Jonas Akerlund, and Requiem was directed by Darren Aronofsky.

[sinfrost]

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Did anyone here see "SPUN" it was by the same director as "Requiem For A Dream"

[/ QUOTE ] That flick wasn't done by Aronofsky. It was a horrible copy of Requiem For A Dream.

[matthew_almeida]

yup way to repeat the exact same thing twice...but im glad you both cleared it up.

[sinfrost]

Sorry. *Bows head in embarrassment*. . . /forums/images/icons/frown.gif

[Zens_7s]

You thought it was a copy? I didn't think they had much of anything in common. One was a blatent drug movie, and the other was a incredible film about the deconstruction of hope. In holiday table terms, Requiem is at the adults table, and Spun is eating turkey on the little kids card table.

[sinfrost]

The kids table always seems to be more annoying and messy. . .not put together, if you will. So, the simile works.

[psychofiend]

I still Can't wait to hear D'arcy make her own CD all by herself, because her voice is [censored] awesome.

[Razorback]

Good... Pumpkins was a real band, Zwan never did it for me. I am happy to see that Billy agrees with me. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

RB

[ILovePapaSmurf]

<font color="purple">They performed on SNL, right? If this is the same band that you all are talking about I have to say, I didn't dig it. </font color>

[Affleckie]

I think I'm in shock. I can't believe someone posted this here. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

I've been a moderator on an SP board forever and this has obviously been the only thing they've been talking about lately.

[Threadkiller]

I knew this post would eventually draw Affleckie out of the darkness

[Affleckie]

Sorry... sometimes it just takes me a little while! /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

[Zens_7s]

If I had known it was destined to bring Affleckie out of the closet (or other hiding place) I would have posted something sooner!

[code6enterprises]

I have a question for Affleckie. On the other board, before it got shut down, didn't you have to most posts? So what happened? Why do you only have a hundred or so here?

[Affleckie]

I think I was the second person to break 1000 (after RB) and it was closed shortly after... I don't have as much time as I had then though.

[Razorback]

I think we got half of those posts in the "Affleckie" threads. /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

RB

[karmattack]

you always want to be the one to reel people out of their hiding places. I can't even hide in your "couch" a couple days without getting drawn back here. Now Affleckie. And here I thought I was special.

[Razorback]

I'm sure you are special, but Affleckie is... well, Affleckie.

RB

[karmattack]

Yeah, I suppose you're right.

[Affleckie]

You are special... because you have the BEST AVATAR EVER!

[Razorback]

He does... he really does.

RB

[johnbamforth]

ill never be special

[code6enterprises]

What is it?

[Matt1]

Leo Decaprio running like a madman from The Beach.

[code6enterprises]

Oh. I see it now.

[Razorback]

Not exactly... it is Leo imagining himself inside a video game, in THE BEACH.

RB

[psychofiend]

Actually I believe he was tripping balls and that is why he was in this video game situation.

[Razorback]

I have no idea what "tripping balls" means, but if you mean that he had lost his mind then I agree.

RB

[psychofiend]

Actually tripping balls meaning tripping on drugs, in the case of that movie it was wacky-tobacky.

[Razorback]

You need to watch the movie again. He wasn't "tripping" on anything but insanity when he began to lose his mind.

RB

[johnbamforth]

lol

[psychofiend]

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You need to watch the movie again. He wasn't "tripping" on anything but insanity when he began to lose his mind.

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I would watch it, but it sucked so much.

[Razorback]

Did you say your opinion sucks so much? Agreed.

RB

[psychofiend]

Yeah, that was cool of you to say.

[karmattack]

Well, it was cool of Razorback to say.....but is it cool for me to support and emphasize what he said?

Regardless, I do.

[Zens_7s]

Once every few years we find a celebrity everyone loves to bash, and that guy was Leo for a short while. The people that came to know him from Titanic were not the fan-base that would respect the actual talent he has. The Beach fit far better with The Basketball Diaries and What's Eating Gilbert Grape.

I truly think The Beach got a bad rap because there were millions of people wanting Leo to be a sweet, infatuated high school lover boy forever. That movie was destined to be sunk by the iceberg of public stupidity before it ever entered the theater.

[karmattack]

Hi, I would like to present to everyone "The Shiznit," but you can all call her Queen Zens.

[Zens_7s]

Aww, that is so nice! I am blushing. /forums/images/icons/shocked.gif Wait, I am BLUSHING. /forums/images/icons/shocked.gif Uh oh. Did my blusher break?

[Thinks something not appropriate for public consumption.]
/forums/images/icons/blush.gif Phew, there it goes. Thank you Crown Prince of Jupiter, I think you are the Shiznet also [bows regally]

[Omaru]

Good post, but nowadays arent bad boys considered to be uber cool compared to corn fed choir boys.

[psychofiend]

I go to church every sunday, I guess I am not "uber cool." Oh well, I never really considered myself cool at all anyway.

[DangerSeeker]

"The BEach" definitely got a bad rap, but my main issue with it was that the role was sooooooooo written for Ewan McGregor in the book. That video game thing, while not fdoing it justice, at least alluded to some of my favorite passages from the book, particularly the "game over" moment, but the battery thing too.

I'm catching up.