Mulholland Drive Dream or Reality?

[Chromosexual]

Ok,i might come of as a complete thick shit to the hardend movie buffs out there who hock loogies of the grassiest green on people who are too mentally retarded to work out the story line to some of Hollywoods more experimental outputs, but is Mulholland Drive a dream. Its starts off with that person sleeping and that strange swing dance scene,then the main story about the woman whos got amnesia and the actress starts,and continues for about an hour and a half, before the film winds everything up to serious mind fuck level, and goes back over the film again, changing all the little details,and shuffling all the relationships around,before going majorly schizo with the mini people and the monster thingy. Thats my piss poor interpretation,whats yours?

[Razorback]

It is, basicly, a dead persons dream (or final moments of thought... based around a fantasy and actual events).

RB

[Droogan_Leader]

I wouldn't sweat it man. I'm no measuring stick, but I love those types of movies, that really make you think, and I was totally lost on this movie at first.

If you don't get it though, what I find to be really rewarding is to go research it, on the internet or whatever, and watch it again. It really stretches your brain, doesn't it!

[Zens_7s]

I interpreted it as the masturbatory fantasy Betty/Diane has shortly before she offs herself. You see the way she hoped her failed affair had worked, instead of the reality. Of course, in her fantasy we see everything Betty/Diane wishes she was; a sweet, innocent girl who is led astray by a sexy stranger.

Eventually the reality seeps back in as all fantasy or dreams are prone to have happen. Betty was in fact jealous, trashy, not sweet or innocent, and was involved in having her lover killed. She had something to do with Rita's death and committed suicide after being overpowered by guilt. What we get to see is her fantasy, including the revenge thrill a suicidal person would have for the object of their desire finding them dead.

This is kind of one of those 5 page paper kinds of movies, so I am really glossing over some stuff. Watch it again and I think you will find your own take on the situation. I don't think there is one correct answer.

[Razorback]

Here is my problem with the "masturbatory fantasy" theory... she is dead. She finds herself, dead, in her dream/fantasy so we may be seeing an out-of-sequence reflection or extension of her dream/fantasy/final-death-vision. So her fantasy includes her death, which would mean that she sees her corpse exactly as it will appear in the real world (later?).

I love this movie because we could probably discuss it for 500 posts and never agree on anything, and yet all agree about the main point. /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

RB

[Omaru]

I havent seen it yet, but it sounds alot like jacob's ladder.

[Zens_7s]

<<So her fantasy includes her death, which would mean that she sees her corpse exactly as it will appear in the real world (later?). >>

That is why I always took her as fantasizing about her own death and discovery first. Most likely the fantasizing occured in that very bed, and she placed herself in line with how her suicide fantasy should work. Of course, she could not possibly look exactly like she dreamed, so either Lynch took a little too much artistic freedom, or I am wrong. You are correct, it's a movie that we all could debate forever.

Eventually somebody has to cry out "Silencio"!

[Razorback]

I think that she is dead at the start of the movie. I don't believe that Lynch would show us her corpse like that without intending to say that she is watching herself in the real world, while in her fantasy world.

There is that argument (theory) that even in death the mind can function for a bit in a dream-like state, which might explain the stories of people seeing a white light and then meeting family members (and some other purty things) at death.

I got that impression mostly because at the end, when Lynch has shown us her death, we still see a final shot. I took that as being her last moment of death-dreaming. Of course, I could be WAY off here.

RB

[DangerSeeker]

Here are my thoughts (http://www.danger-seekers.com/crackpot/mulhollanddrive.htm) from when I saw it, but it's been a while, so i can't further back it up right now.

[Razorback]

That is just nuts, man. The craziest analysis of the movie I have ever heard... you are probably right. /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

RB

[DangerSeeker]

It was a weird experience seeing it, as I did a double feature and caught it right after Amelie. If you ever want to experience what manic depression is like, do that double feature. Wow.

[Razorback]

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I do, I really do! No, wait... I don't, I really don't.

RB

[johnbamforth]

Wow some intelligent thinking going on here I like it

[EternalStrife]

Is that because you don't have any of your own?

I can't help it. Whenever I see remarks like that, I can't just leave it well enough alone.