Movies that should be remade... [Archive]

Matt1

09-12-2003, 02:20 AM

So I'm thinking to myself: why do people only think good movies should be remade? Psycho, Planet of the Apes, Willy Wonka and the Chocalate Factory, these are great films and no remake could ever surpass them. So why bother? If anything, you should remake movies that had great ideas, but shitty execution.

My thesis basically is, they should only remake bad movies. Like a do-over.

My example would be a movie like, say, Waterworld. Good idea: World covered in water, mutant fish hero. Definetly had bad-ass potential. Ended up coming off like Mad Max Beach Blanket Bingo.

Any other flicks that fit this criteria? What movies do you wish could get a do-over?

Droogan_Leader

09-12-2003, 08:31 AM

I really wanted Queen of the Damned to be better, as far as vampire movies go. I'm a big vampire movie fan, but no matter how horrible or boring the movie is, I rarely fall asleep on a movie. Maybe I was just really wiped that day, but the movie moved so slow, and had so few real action scenes that I managed to doze off.

That's one I'd re-do, I think.

EternalStrife

09-12-2003, 10:06 AM

I'd say dungeons & dragons. And I had such high hopes on that one.

DangerSeeker

09-12-2003, 12:05 PM

Actually, I think WaterWorld was fine as is, not something that should be remade. I do agree that misfires or bad movies would be much better to remake, though.

I've always wanted to do a remake of SuperFuzz from 1980 or 81, about a cop who gets powers (strength, speed, telekenisis, etc) from a missile he accidentally shoots, but loses them when he sees the color red. I love it, but it isn't exactly a good movie.

I'd also like, in another fifteen years, to do a remake of Psycho II.

code6enterprises

09-12-2003, 06:11 PM

Jason X could have been a lot better but it shouldn't be remade. It shouldn't have been made in the first place.

spiral

09-12-2003, 08:25 PM

who is going to be in the willie wonka! that is a sin to do that over, if you want your children in on it show them the old one it had cool effects enough if you ask me. tsk,
although im lookin at the trailer for the italian job..
no.no.

and there was no need to do another planet of the apes.not that i saw the new one , but i say nay!

EternalStrife

09-12-2003, 11:03 PM

Daredevil. The soundtrack rocked, but the movie itself sucked.

DarthMaulRat

09-13-2003, 03:51 AM

The only reason I'd see the new Willy Wonka movie is if they cast Christopher Walken as Mr. Wonka. That would be hilarious.

*doing my awful Walken impression*
Charlie... this is madness... my factory... its crazy... You see those Oompah Loompas?... They're hideous... make good workers... but I still hate them...

Unfortunately, last I heard Depp was cast as the man in purple.
As for Queen of the Damned, yeah, that was the most boring vampire movie I've ever seen

EternalStrife

09-13-2003, 10:32 AM

What about Interview With The Vampire. I thought that was pretty boring too. That movie was two hours too long.

matthew_almeida

09-13-2003, 03:49 PM

you know what movie should be re-made? texas chainsaw masscre...oh wait right thats coming october 16th. in that case dawn of the dead...oh wait march 26....in that case defintly...TRON!!!! muahaha no... ok seriously Christmas Evil that would be an awesome remake since no-one saw it the first time.

Chromosexual

09-13-2003, 04:45 PM

Freddy vrs Jason should be remade then scrapped. The whole idea of two of Hollywoods most over rated horror icons beating each other up is just abysmal,this is not Celebrity Deathmatch,this is cinema,this costs me £7 per ticket,£7 which would overwise go on a sixer and a rental vid.

micheal myres still rules, the script writers, however, don't

ILovePapaSmurf

09-13-2003, 05:11 PM

I remember watching tron when I was a little kid and haven't seen it since. I already heard somewhere that it was in plans to being remade. I hope not, the first one was great.

Movies that are remade loose some of the special feeling. I might not see the re-make of Willy Wonka because I feel that it shouldn't be remade because the first one was so great. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif Gene Wilder can not be replaced.

matthew_almeida

09-13-2003, 05:41 PM

OVERATED!!! 1. your an idiot. 2. did you even watch the movie cuz it wasnt based on a fight...it was based on a partnership gone wrong. this obsimal post makes me sick. you deserve a horrible death. i hope freddy and or jason kick your ass. pfft what do you know your from england...you wouldnt know a classic horror flick if it jumped up and bit you in the ass

matthew_almeida

09-13-2003, 05:44 PM

andby the way its spelt "Michael Myers" no Micael Myers

ILovePapaSmurf

09-13-2003, 06:07 PM

Just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't mean they are idiots. I mean, seriously, how old are you!? I didn't like Freddy vs. jason and I agree it was overrated, so what are you going to tell me?

matthew_almeida

09-13-2003, 06:09 PM

its one thing to say it was overated if you saw it...its a differnt story to be some punkass who just jumps to conclusions...hes not the only one on this site...but damn are they delicous...mmm choclate pretzels represent

Droogan_Leader

09-13-2003, 07:41 PM

Matthew you act too friggin fruity for me to reply to your posts sometimes. I told you to work on that.

And my ancestors came from England, a fact that I'm damn proud of, so you should shut your yap while you're ahead.

Hey, Chromosexual, I don't even know much about you, but why don't you whip out some of those crazy British insults on him? Go ahead, nobody will say anything!

Mighty_Wingman

12-03-2003, 02:39 PM

Okay, reviving another dead thread , and hoping to steer it back where it was meant to go......

1)" The Fifth Element " I liked the first half hour of this movie and then it started to float away .... farther .......and farther ....... away . The beginning reminded me alot of the old " Heavy Metal " Not exactly innovative , but interesting. By the time Chris Tucker ( Who I loved in "Friday" ) came on screen I was ready to walk out of the theater . When the movie finally ended I wished I had . How many times must we be reminded by a movie that love conquers all ? That was so [censored] weak. The movies' advertising had described it as "Star Wars" for a new generation. I would've described it as " Star Wars" for interior decorators and people that are still mad that there was no sequel to "Purple Rain".
The movie needed a large scale space battle, and is a laser gun too much to ask ??? I mean for Christ sakes they're at least a few hundred years in the future. You'd think the weapons would have evolved a little better than an "Ice Cube System "and a poison dart shooter .

2) "The Core" This movie starts out kinda interesting and seems to be based in some amount of scientific research then degenerates into an "Armageddon " clone. There were so many things they could've done differently. I was pissed off by the predictable Hollywood B.S. of letting the happy couple survive. Why ??? I say if your going to kill everyone else kill them too. Why are they're lives more important because they're falling in love ? Or don't kill everyone else ?

I could go on for a while here, on half dozen other movies but I'm sure everyones already grown tired of my ranting and hasn't read this far anyway ?

Apologies.

Dave

12-03-2003, 04:15 PM

I was going to say "the Cat from Outer Space" but why would anyone want to try and improve on this classic?

Jack_Sparrow

12-03-2003, 05:26 PM

I dunno about remade but i'd like some erased from memory:

Godfather 3
Star Wars - Episodes 1 & 2 soiled the Holy Trilogy for me!
Planet of the Apes - the remake

Dave

12-03-2003, 05:46 PM

"Star Wars - Episodes 1 & 2 soiled the Holy Trilogy for me"

are you Sure the Ewok made for TV movies didn't piss on them trilogy for you first?

psychofiend

12-03-2003, 07:07 PM

I think that the movie Nightmare on Elm Street should be re-made. The reason why is because chicks always seem to think of me as the perfect guy to go see a gory/scary movie with. I can't imagine why... there are so many goth guys those chicks can go with.

EternalStrife

12-03-2003, 09:53 PM

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Planet of the Apes - the remake

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Well that's an idea. Remake the remake. And if that still sucks, they can remake it all over again.

in_diana_jones

12-03-2003, 11:40 PM

even though i loved the graduate, i think it should be remade with Jason Biggs...plus they can put the actual song 'Mrs. Robinson' on it, instead of a sketchy rough draft. and include all the original music of course /forums/images/icons/wink.gif
maybe even have dustin hoffman as the father of benjamin braddock?

Efexeye

12-04-2003, 08:34 AM

They should NOT remake The Graduate. It was fine the first time, like many "remakes" that come out. If you want to see Biggs in The Graduate, go to a Broadway show.

marksiwel

12-04-2003, 12:40 PM

Only movies that were so Horrible no one saw ,should be remade. Good movies shouldnt be remade at all. I dont want to watch a Steven Splieberg version of Rushmore in 5 years. Or a M. Night Shamalyan remake of Jaws were it turns out Jaws was A) Not Real or B) a Dolphin.

Also we should cut down on useless Sequels. Please dont let there be a Rush Hour 3!

BUT there is ONE movie I really want remade. Rein of Fire. Dear god it could have been SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO good. There were parts of greatness in the movies (The Star Wars PLay scene)But other than that crap ruled this film.
Dragons take over the earth and you cant even make it fun to watch?

Efexeye

12-04-2003, 12:45 PM

I liked the Star Wars mythology play scene too- art parodying art at its' best. I didn't hate that movie, but do you really think they could do it any better? You can't make prime rib out of Spam, ya know?

yoda2003

12-04-2003, 02:14 PM

yeah, i argree the idea of jason in space seems kinda corny in a way, and the fact the next movie inline for the jason series was freddy vs jason the story lines didnt match, i think they should of released them as jason X before freddy Vs Jason
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yoda2003

12-04-2003, 02:17 PM

The old star wars trilogy's were excellent but the new movies didnt really do it for me, the special effect were good but the the movies i dont think are any betetr than the old ones

Efexeye

12-04-2003, 02:58 PM

Comparing the old to the new when it comes to Star Wars trilogies is like comparing apples and orange freeway cones. The first series were scantily-budgeted space operas designed to revive the dying art of the scifi movie. The last three are technological wonders of computer animation and marketing, totally lacking in the cachet of the first movies. Besides, Lucas has always said that he produced the middle three movies of the 3-trilogy series first because they had the highest production values. Even HE didn't find the subject matter of Episodes I, II, and III as interesting and marketable as ANH, TESB, and ROTJ. It's almost like comparing Pong to Halo- they are totally different products.

Razorback

12-04-2003, 06:55 PM

The originals were focused on fighting evil and sticking it "the man" while the new ones are based on watching how "the man" got his power. Comparing them is silly but people do it anyway because small minds follow along with their directive. /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

RB

yoda2003

12-04-2003, 07:00 PM

by "the man" what do you mean? u mean darth vadar, or are you even talking about star wars??

Matt1

12-04-2003, 07:03 PM

You're right RB. It's absolutely illogical to compare movies wriiten by the same man, set in the same universe, and containing the same characters. I mean, it's not like they're part of a series or something.

ILovePapaSmurf

12-04-2003, 08:03 PM

Umm... its pretty obvious that the 'man' is Darth Vader. Were you even paying atttention to the original three??

Razorback

12-05-2003, 10:34 AM

While it is part of the same story it is like comparing War to Peace in "War And Peace." You either accept them as the same story or you seperate them, but you do not pit them against each other, and that is what I am arguing against.

RB

Dave

12-05-2003, 12:06 PM

I thought the man was the emporor.

ILovePapaSmurf

12-05-2003, 12:29 PM

In the movies the main 'man' was the Emperor, but the story doesn't revolve around that man. It revolves around the man, the myth and Luke's father, Darth Vader. And if you re-read RB's post, then you will get what I mean.

And yesterday, I was in a very bitchy mood. Its comes and goes...its comes and go...

ravinpain1313

12-05-2003, 12:30 PM

i know one that should not have been re-made...the shining..why did they mess with a classic like that jack rocked in that movie.the remake was blasphemy.

ILovePapaSmurf

12-05-2003, 12:33 PM

Wasn't the remake of the Shinning a tv movie?

Cause if it was, it doesn't really hold the title 'movie' in it. It is just a plain way to make ratings (which didn't work..poor ABC). Plus, we all know that the Jack version will always be the best! /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

Dave

12-05-2003, 12:41 PM

:::In the movies the main 'man' was the Emperor, but the story doesn't revolve around that man. It revolves around the man, the myth and Luke's father, Darth Vader. And if you re-read RB's post, then you will get what I mean.::::

I see what you mean, but i still say that the prequel movies are about how Palpatine tricks the republic into giving him the keys to the castle. While the OT (can we abbriviate Original Trilogy from here on out?) was about taking those keys back.

ILovePapaSmurf

12-05-2003, 12:47 PM

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I see what you mean, but i still say that the prequel movies are about how Palpatine tricks the republic into giving him the keys to the castle.

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Yes, and it is also the rise in power for the dark side overall. But, in the OT (I love you for that) it is more about Darth Vader and his reign as the second in line for the emp's chair. And when Palpatine is not around, he is the leader. And Palp wasn't in the movie as much as the 'man' himself was.

And if you notice, Palp wasn't the one who choked people without touching him. Darth Vader was more powerful than him and he knew it, he was just too weak (mentally) to act upon it.

Razorback

12-05-2003, 01:07 PM

Both trilogies are about the Skywalker's. One is about the turning of Anakin to evil and the other is about the turning of Anakin to good. Palpatine is an important piece but he is not THE story.

RB

Dave

12-05-2003, 01:17 PM

You guys are right, but I guess i think that Palpatines story is the backdrop to that of the Skywalkers. Although, I think the OT is not about Anakins rise from the dark to the light, but of Lukes coming of Age. His "Hero's Trial" if you will. However in the grand scheme of things i think that Palapines rise and fall to power is what it's all about. And i'm not sure that Vader was more powerful than Palpy. We never saw Palp choke someone, but then we never saw Vader use Force Lightning either.

Razorback

12-05-2003, 01:26 PM

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I think the OT is not about Anakins rise from the dark to the light, but of Lukes coming of Age

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Lucas disagrees.

RB

Dave

12-05-2003, 04:05 PM

What would he know? all he did was write/direct/produce the things.

karmattack

12-05-2003, 04:08 PM

Sarcastic, and yet it actually proves a point.

ILovePapaSmurf

12-05-2003, 04:50 PM

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And i'm not sure that Vader was more powerful than Palpy.

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Think about it. If Vader wanted to, he could totally have killed Palpy by choking him to death or some other move. He is weak minded, and Palpy knew that due to the fact that he was taken from his mom, his mom died, and he was influenced strongly by mind tricks by the dark side. When pap tried to kill luke, he went mad and over powered him by taking his lightning power and thus, throwing him over the bridge. It all makes sense that Vader could have kicked his ass at any moment if he wanted to. Think X-Men 2 with the doctor and that chemical stuff.

Anyways, I could be really wrong about this, but that is just what I think. I'm not the star wars buff, I just really watch them for Harrison Ford and his tight pants...but we can have a talk about that later.

Razorback

12-05-2003, 05:09 PM

Sorry sweets, but I disagree. The problem was that Palpy was way too powerful for Vader to take on by himself. That is why he was trying to get Luke to join him. In the end, he was able to kill Palpatine simply because the Dark Lord Master was distracted by his "moment of triumph."

RB

Asteban

12-07-2003, 07:32 PM

I know you're all having fun talking about Star Wars and all, but earlier, I was reading about some of you saying that Willy Wonka should NOT be re-made. I'd have to disagree, also some people didn't know who was playing Wonka, I dont think anyone else said this, so I will. Wonka is being played by Johnny Depp, if Johnny Depp can't make this movie good...what am I saying OF COURSE HE'LL MAKE IT GOOD! HE'S JOHNNY DEPP!

Razorback

12-07-2003, 07:45 PM

No.

RB

ILovePapaSmurf

12-07-2003, 10:53 PM

Willy Wonka should not be re-made. The original is a classic and I will refuse to show the remake (if they make one) to my children. Gene Wilder is the best and can not be replaced. /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

12-07-2003, 11:58 PM

Not so much a do-over of a crappy film, but an update of a classic that would benefit greatly by advances in filmmaking and science... Disney's "The Black Hole" I remember going to see it when it came out oh so long ago- I was terrified of Maximillian. I bought it a couple of years ago and while it was charming, it was quite dated and a little hokey. It came out after Star Wars and was financed by Disney, but it looked as if the budget was a tenth of what Lucas had. Hell, it may have been, I don't know. But I think an updated version would kick so much ass. Hell, put Johnny Depp in command of the Cygnus...

Dave

12-08-2003, 04:26 PM

I totally agree with this. Black Hole should be remade. I saw it on TV the other week, and had forgotten how "red" everything was. Tony Perkins was pretty good though, in one of his few post "Psycho" roles.

Asteban

12-09-2003, 01:32 AM

I agree Gene Wilder was amazing as that part, but would you rather have some bad actor take the role, or someone who just didn't fit it at all? At least you don't have Sean Connery as Wonka (don't get me wrong, Sean Connery is one of my all time favorites, but could you image him in that role, HAHA). Anyway my point is, Who better to take the role than Johnny Depp. And also Tim Burton is directing....You can't deny the Depp-Burton combination. They've made so many wonderful movies. Edward Scissor-Hands(a personal favorite and the movie that made me a Depp fan when I was really little), and Sleepy Hollow, they worked on Ed Wood also...haven't seen it yet though.

ILovePapaSmurf

12-09-2003, 01:40 AM

Id rather not see anyone remake the movie. Like I said, it would take away from what the original brings to everyone. I mean, I was a second generation Willy Wonka Child. Why ruin that for my future children? Sorry, but if is remade. I will tie myself to my local theater manager and plead with him not to show it. Which wont be as bad as it seems, because he is really cute.

R_U_18

12-09-2003, 01:47 AM

I'd like to see a remake of the last two Matrix movies, they sucked.....

Dave

12-09-2003, 01:09 PM

I'm agreeing with the Smurf-stress here. There is no reason to re-make this film, or Psycho, or Planet of the Apes or any "classic". If you really want to see Depp and Wonka, they could always make a movie based on Charley and the Great Glass Elevator .

Dave

12-09-2003, 01:13 PM

Also i am going to open a Theatre in Smurfs neighborhood and purchase some silken cord. /forums/images/icons/tongue.gif

Jack_Sparrow

12-09-2003, 03:24 PM

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I'd like to see a remake of the last two Matrix movies, they sucked.....

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touche

Asteban

12-09-2003, 06:13 PM

My opinion on the whole thing is that really Tim Burton isn't remaking the movie. He's just making the book into a movie again. When you look it up on imdb.com its listed under Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, not Willy Wonka and the CF. If that's the case, what's you're opinion on it?

Omaru

12-09-2003, 06:37 PM

But it would still be the same film content overall, probably minus the songs, I'd probably see it only out of an interest level.
I'm agreeing with Dave here, I'd like to see an adaption of the second book, or Just bring more Rold Dahl books to big screen adaption instead. Next they will probaby remake The Witches /forums/images/icons/frown.gif

Asteban

12-09-2003, 06:49 PM

I'd like to see an adaptation of the second one too, but being a Johnny Depp fan, and a Tim Burton fan....I'll take as many of their movies as I can get, especially if they're working together /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

Matt1

12-12-2003, 02:44 AM

I was just reminded in another thread about another sci-fi film that should get the do-over treatment... Flash Gordon! Drop the camp and cheese, it could be very decent.

Threadkiller

12-12-2003, 03:30 AM

Have to agree on Flash Gordon. Maybe if they made it a farce and had extra cheese it could work too. It'd be hard to hear him introduce himself as "Flash Gordon. Quarterback. New York Jets" without it being campy.

Maybe they could Limp Bizkit to remake the Queen song for the soundtrack.

12-12-2003, 01:25 PM

Hell yeah remake Flash Gordon! The original was good in it's campy, tongue-in-cheek way. It had some darker elements that really could have been explored more. *plants tongue in own cheek* Get Johnny Depp to play Ming...

Asteban

12-12-2003, 05:57 PM

Haven't seen the movie, but if it involves Johnny Depp I'm all for it.

gamer

12-13-2003, 08:14 PM

video games should never be remade into movies (such as resident evil, house of the dead, and final fantasy) the only good movie/video game remake there is, is supper mario bros.

Efexeye

12-14-2003, 12:50 PM

Uh, the Final Fantasy movie wasn't good, but it was still WAY more entertaining than Super Mario Bros....

psychofiend

12-14-2003, 01:47 PM

Ok, that Final Fantasy movie is something that falls into a category of movie that only Summer of Sam is in. I call this category "that was a waste of my life, I wanna sue the bastards."

ILovePapaSmurf

12-14-2003, 03:41 PM

Super Mario Bros was the best!

psychofiend

12-14-2003, 04:06 PM

It was about an 8 out of 10.

Razorback

12-14-2003, 06:00 PM

I agree. Super Mario Bros was da shizznit. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

RB

ILovePapaSmurf

12-14-2003, 08:28 PM

Oh, I love it when you talk that way. /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

Razorback

12-14-2003, 08:39 PM

I know you do... I know. /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

RB

psychofiend

12-14-2003, 08:46 PM

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Oh, I love it when you talk that way.

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How about this way, baby... I'll have it well done.
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code6enterprises

12-15-2003, 07:11 PM

Was Final Fantasy even based on the game?

psychofiend

12-15-2003, 07:13 PM

I don't think so.

Omaru

12-15-2003, 07:31 PM

Only thing in common with the games was the BS geia theory from final fantasy 7, and the fact they had a character called cid, cause every ff game has had a character called Cid (I think all of whom have some kind of flying transportation.) all I liked about the film overall were the obvious graphics in general, but specifically the dream sequences.

Sheriff

12-16-2003, 08:41 PM

I agree, why would you even try to remake something that golden? I think Stephen King financed the remake of the Shining because Kubrik strayed so far from the books ending... Spider with the boiler blowing up to kill it?

Did anyone see The Cube? I thought the acting sucked but the premise was amazing. I heard the Cube 2 was coming out (/is out) but was so dissapointed with the first one.

psychofiend

12-17-2003, 05:27 PM

I got some of what you said, but your avatar distracted me from reading the rest...

karmattack

12-17-2003, 05:51 PM

There is a post there?

psychofiend

12-17-2003, 06:01 PM

Yeah, but it isn't that great anyway.

RobinHoodDaffy

12-18-2003, 03:29 AM

Just to touch on the whole "Shining" issue. While the Kubrick was a truly amazing film, it is not the story that King wrote. Kubrick had no belief in the supernatural and refused to play to any of the supernatural elements in the story. While King has the supernatural as the prime motivation. Being a King reader, I prefer the miniseries story wise. The movie takes all bets though when it comes to mood, performances, and visuals. Besides, it is totally ruled by the great Scatman Corothers!!!!!!