Is Jersey Girl Doomed?

[hyphnip]

In the aftermath of Gigli many people are doubting the on screen chemistry of J LO and Ben Afleck. Now I can't really be a fair judge since I have yet to shell out the $8.00 to go see Gigli but I don't think it looked like it was that bad. I think too many people are letting the critics influence them and thats why Gigli did so poorly. Critcs can often be wrong though, in my city, a local newspaper gave the movie Titanic only 1 star. I'm one of the few people left alive that hasn't seen Titanic but look how well that movie did. What worries me is that Kevin Smith's newest creation "Jersey Girl" will be stuck in the shadow of Gigli. What do you think?

[DarthMaulRat]

Admittedly, when I saw the big crater that 'Gigli' was making in the news I instantly thought of the impact that it could have on Jersey Girl. However, I think that Kevin Smith's name will sell the film more than the Bennifer duo. Actually, if JG was to release on its original date, it would've suffered fatal wounds from Gigli. But Return of the King, Kill Bill pt.1 and Revolutions may have been a godsend, because Jersey Girl's springtime release will give America enough time to forget about the celluloid anus known as Gigli.

[Denyse]

I think that JG will be fine, based on the following:
1) I've heard (repeatedly) from those who have seen it and whose opinion I respect (you getting this, Chris?), that the movie is great, and that everyone in the cast, Jennifer included, did an excellent job.

2) After being an extra on the movie for 10 whole days, I know enough spoiler related nonsense, to know, that with the exception of Ben and maybe Raquel (the kid playing Ben's daughter) this is really more of an ensemble piece, with the balance of the cast having pretty equal parts in the movie, as is the case in most of Kevin's movies.

Strangely, no one seems to remember all the backlash over some of Kevin's choices during casting on J&SBSB, but there was a ton of it (Eliza, Jason Biggs and James Van Der Beek, for Christ's sake), yet that all seemed to turn out pretty well in the end. I think this will be a case of history repeating itself in a "Oh, Kevin, how wrong we were to doubt you" kind of way, as opposed to a "Gigli and the press" kind of way...

[FanGirl]

I wish I had the power to smite people who start a new thread about a topic that is currently being discussed. It's not like it's an old discussion either.

There's a passage I got memorized, seems appropriate for this situation: Ezekiel 25:17. "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you."

[code6enterprises]

I'm hoping that the critics don't call it the Gigli of 2004. But all this discussion got me wondering. Won't the release date of JG be just around the time of Gigli? Think about that.

[ratm1966]

I think I will post my reply to this thread on the other JG thread.

[hyphnip]

Sorry, I never saw the other JG thread, my bad.
Anyway
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I think this will be a case of history repeating itself in a "Oh, Kevin, how wrong we were to doubt you" kind of way,

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For the record, I never said anywhere that I doubted Kevin Smith. I've been preaching the word of Kevin Smith for a few years now and I'm not about to lose faith.

[Denyse]

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I never said anywhere that I doubted Kevin Smith.

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Nor did I suggest that you did. I was simply stating my thoughts towards those who ARE doubting his judgement in casting...

[hyphnip]

Okay, my mistake again.
*shuts up*

[GoreFollower]

People will go see "Jersey Girl" because its a Kevin Smith Film, not because Ben and Jlo are in it.

[WestEndMick]

If that peice of [censored] movie "gili" is any foreboding of what jersey girl is gonna be like ben and jen are in for a world of [censored]. its only saving grace is that it is a kevin smith movie. and as we all know kevin smith [censored] rocks.

[Chirp]

It's rather ironic that Jason Mewes, star of Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, (no disrespect to Kevin Smith, who is also the star of JSBSB) had a bigger opening weekend with that film than Affleck and Lopez in their Gigli film. Way to go Jason!!! You're the man! Watch out Affleck, here comes Mewes.

[psychofiend]

A more important question brought up by John Stewart "do you think they will stop [censored], because it was so awful?"
http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/tickermaster/images/gigli.gif

[karmattack]

I've noticed some places have started advertising it as a Ben Affleck and Liv Tyler movie with no mention of J-Lo. Things that make you go "hmmm..."
Not in a C&amp;C Music Factory way, but in an Arsenio Hall kind of way.

[code6enterprises]

They are now in the process of editing out J. Lo. and putting in Jar Jar Binks.

[karmattack]

Man, that's awesome. Jar Jar has always done something for me J-Lo never could. Mmmm.....those lucious, full, salamanderlike lips. Misa so horny! Misa love you long time!

[ILovePapaSmurf]

<font color="purple"> I think part of the reason of why Gigli was so horrible was because people are kind of tired of hearing about ben and jennifer. I know many people who didn't want to see the movie because of them and not because of what critics said about it. I mean, I love Al Pacino and I was going to see it because of him and then it got me thinking, do I want to stare at the ben and jen chemistry for 2 hours for 8 bucks when I can turn to E! and see it for free? I think not. As far as Jersey Girl goes, Is Jennifer the star of the movie!? I don't know. I haven't heard much about it. But, I love Kevin Smith, and his films always entertain me (except for Chasing Amy) and that gives me enough reason to see it! /forums/images/icons/smile.gif </font color>

[code6enterprises]

Gigli did bad because all of Jennifer's fans are teens who aren't allowed into rated R movies.

[psychofiend]

Gigli worst flop of the year, that is an insult... the year ain't over yet, something might do worse.

[ILovePapaSmurf]

<font color="purple"> Gilgi also did bad because people are tired of hearing about them and because the film was horrible. There are many j-lo fans who are over 18 years old. I know about 7. </font color>

[code6enterprises]

If th film did so bad because it was horrible then why did people not go see it. They had to have some other reason. If they didn't know it was horrible then they would have gone to see it. EXAMPLE: Kangaroo Jack was a horrible movie but it was still #1 at the box office the first week and dropped out the second. Why, you ask. Word of mouth. The only word of mouth about the movie was the critics. And since the American public has to listen to the news then no one saw the movie. Critics called Mallrats awful and is is a great movie. They called Kangaroo Jack great but, well, should I say anymore.

[hyphnip]

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Gigli worst flop of the year, that is an insult... the year ain't over yet, something might do worse.

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Sorry to say this, but I could probably videotape myself taking a [censored] and put it in theatres nationwide, and that would make more than $3.4million on it's opening weekend.

[Threadkiller]

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I could probably videotape myself taking a [censored] and put it in theatres nationwide, and that would make more than $3.4million on it's opening weekend.

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I think you are undervaluing your potential movie there. Richard Gere's defecation that was Dr. T and the Women made $5 milion opening weekend. Yours could clear at least that much.

[ILovePapaSmurf]

<font color="purple"> In my personal opinion, the reason why Kangaroo Jack did as well as it did was because children in the USA saw the previews and asked their mommies and daddies to take them to it. There weren't really any kid like movies parents could take them to, so that was an option. Why do you think Daddy Day Care did well? because kids wanted to see it. Kids have a lot of influence on their kids. And both movies sucked! Gilgi was just a movie that should not have been made because people get tired of celebrity couples who ARE always in the news and like I said, why spend 8 bucks seeing them on the big screen when you can see them on tv for free? </font color>

[code6enterprises]

So you are saying if two people meet on a set and end up all in the newspapers then the movie shouldn't go out in theaters.

[psychofiend]

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Sorry to say this, but I could probably videotape myself taking a [censored] and put it in theatres nationwide, and that would make more than $3.4million on it's opening weekend.

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That's cause dick and fart jokes always sell well. /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

[ILovePapaSmurf]

<font color="purple">Well, kind of. I mean, if they are good actors with a good script let them do a film. But, lets take a look at some movies that featured couple. Swept Away, did bad because it was a horrible film and a madonna and guy riche film. Far and away. Great film, but many people didn't see it because Tom and Nicole were in it. And Gilgi. Well, we all know that story. Seriously, it is just my opinion and I can be wrong, but that is just what I think. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif </font color>

[WestEndMick]

I can't see Jennifer Lopez in a Kevin Smith movie. it is like putting a square peg in a round hole. I can see Affleck because he has shown himself more then worthy to grace us with his preasents in another View Askew movie. But i guess Kevin Smith knows what he is doing and will most likely turn it to gold.

[Omaru]

A good script can suffice some crappy acting, for evidence, see mallrats.

[code6enterprises]

The only crappy acting in Mallrats was Jeremy London.

[Razorback]

I used to think that too but over the years I have changed my tune on that. I think that it was awkward at times but he also had his moments. Bad acting (to me) is when someone is a deer in headlights. London was a lot better than that.

RB

[ILovePapaSmurf]

<font color="purple"> * Does Horshack impression* Oh, Oh, Oh Razor you just described the young Anikan Skywalker's acting in Episode one! YAY! </font color>

[Omaru]

Name his moments cause I never saw any. I guess the fact he stuck out like a sore thumb was from the rest of a decent cast was funny enough. Okay he had his moment.

[Razorback]

Even he had his moments.

What I think is very funny is how David Lynch pulls out very similar performances as Lucas and (even) Kevin Smith and yet he is considered a genius. Why is it "art" when Lynch does it but bad directing or performance when it shows up in a Lucas or Smith movie? /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

To quote my sociology professor, "the definition of the situation." /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif Sometimes the fanboy is the only one looking at a movie with an open mind.

RB

[Omaru]

Is that the guy that made that obscure rabbits series among all those really other slightly confusing things like Twin Peaks.

[Razorback]

Same guy.

RB

[matthew_almeida]

you know i actually took the time to watch gigli, no i dint waste my money on it...my aunt took me in paid, and although it wasnt a great movie...i spose it was an o.k way to kill 2 hours...and really it was more the plot then the chemistry. Ben was decent being given the crappy role that he had...and J.lo managed to pull out a decent performance again given her crappy role...so basically since Kevin Smith obviously has a good script...the movie will be much better and there on screen chemistry will show it.

[ILovePapaSmurf]

<font color="purple">Ok, rememeber the scene when he is trying to say goodbye to his mom and try to make it as sad as possible, well, I was laughing the whole time. That poor little kid can not act. And then with the pod racing scenes, yea, they were annoying me. But, that is about it. When he was quiet, it was fine. Oh, except at the end. </font color>

[Razorback]

I bet you could not have done a better job. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

RB

[Omaru]

which would be fine if we were talking wittle cutsey bhaybee faced Anakin but I was talking about Jeremy London as T.S. On a side note I wonder who would win in a match, maybe hulk hogan would come along in a crappy 90's film role and beat them both for the title.

[gamer]

jlo cant act to save her life but i will see it because its a kevin smith movie maybe he will unlike most directors pull it off.

ps will jay and silent bob be init that might be a magor $elling point to my teen age friends

[DangerSeeker]

I don't think they're trying to sell it to your teenage friends.

[code6enterprises]

I just have to let it out.

THEY FINISHED FILMING IN JANUARY YOU DUMB [censored]!!!!!!!!!!!

[Omaru]

I dont mean to bust your chops but january is five months away so how can they finish filming? oh no! you dont mean like 7 months ago do you. Damn if only my pulse didn't have that restraining order placed on my finger. I might actually get with the times.