What do you all think about 'The Terminator'.... [Archive]

psychofiend

08-07-2003, 12:09 PM

Anyone but Larry Flint, now that he is running. In one of my friend's cars I picked up a Hussler that was on the ground and i readf an article. I thought it was the biggest load of garbage i had evwer read, I want Larry Flint dead, but no one can kill him...

FanGirl

08-07-2003, 12:37 PM

I am voting for Larry Flint for the following reasons: he can't be bribed, he is loyal to the constitution to a fault, he actually understands the meaning of the first amendment, there will be no scandals because he doesn't hide anything, and his speeches will be great. I loved how he exposed the hyprocisy of the Republican leaders during the Clinton trials. He released 5 names of subscription holders in Congress every week during the trial.

Sure his methods are a bit rough, but he won't put up with any bs. I believe a government official's personal life and professional life should not be looked at as one. As long as they are doing their job who cares what they do in their private life?

Razorback

08-07-2003, 01:04 PM

The last thing you want in government is an "outsider" (one who doesn't understand politics). While we can argue about politics being corrupt and all politicians being liars (blah blah blah) there are rules and methods to the whole process that can only be achieved by someone who understands the game and knows how to bend the rules for the benefit of their ideology.

If you look at the independent's in government nearly all of them are either ineffective or forced to follow a specific, majority party line to be effective. So if you are living in California and you want your state to fall apart then you will vote for Larry Flint. If you care about your state you will vote for a Republican or Democrat who will have power within the government and be able to influence those in state and federal government.

Granted, anyone willing to take over the mess in California needs to have a serious psychoanalysis.

RB

FanGirl

08-07-2003, 01:24 PM

Would that be the porn star, the terminator, the stripper, Angelyne, the columnist, the columnist's ex husband, or Gary Coleman? Because those are the people running in California.

Razorback

08-07-2003, 02:03 PM

Arnold has pull in government. He is a liberal Republican with ties to both the Bush's and Kennedy's (the two "royal" families). He has a strong liberal belief socially and a solid conservative fiscal view about government; I think he would be a better choice than a dimwit like Larry Flint.

However, if the Democratic Party pulls out a candidate to run against the nutbags then that candidate will win. We will see what happens in the next few weeks.

RB

DangerSeeker

08-07-2003, 03:30 PM

Flint is less of an outsider than Arnie. Flint has been political throughout his career. Sure, it started out being for selfish reasons, but he became quite the voice of our rights. I'm all for him winning, for the reasons FanGirl gave.

I think the shock to the system would be a great thing for the country. The two party system has become stale and ineffective, to at least some degree. Having an outspoken person, one who can SUCCESSFULLY run a business, unlike a certain failed baseball team owner, will help get things back on the right track.

He will help defend the right of the smokers, he will stop the Republicans (who are supposed to believe in states rights) from overturning Cali environmental laws to allow out-of-state companies the chance for off-shore drilling and weaker emissions standards.

Larry all the way!

brycejmcewen

08-07-2003, 03:50 PM

You're funny.

You want a guy who will defend the rights of smokers, AND make sure emission standards aren't weakend.

What rights do smokers have? What is that, the 1st amendment? 2nd? 3rd?

karmattack

08-07-2003, 03:55 PM

Three topics I've learned to steer away from (but usually can't):
1. Religion
2. Politics
3. Euthanasia/Abortion (or 1 and 2 combined)

So, without making any points of my own, I'll say that DangerSeeker is the poop !

FanGirl

08-07-2003, 04:04 PM

So, Smokers shouldn't have any rights? Isn't that the pursuit of their happiness? Non-smokers shouldn't have any more rights than smokers should. It's bad enough as it is as to where and when people can smoke.

For the record, I am a non-smoker.

brycejmcewen

08-07-2003, 04:10 PM

It's not that they shouldn't have any rights. I just get tired of people discussing their "right" to smoke as if it is in the constitution. I've never heard a good reason as to why smoking is somebodies "right."

You are crazy if you think it doesn't make sense to limit where people can smoke.

karmattack

08-07-2003, 04:19 PM

Preface: I am an occassional/social smoker.

I don't know if it's spoken or unspoken, but I'm pretty sure it's widely agreed people have a right to self-medicate. At present, there are very few delivery devices that are legal, one of which being for niccotine delivery. I'd say that until Nicorette is $4 a pack, don't mess with it.

And if Repubs really want to take a stand on changing societal norms in order to improve health standards while maintaining the status quo.......why not start by banning alcohol and legalizing marijuana? Anybody?

DangerSeeker

08-07-2003, 04:27 PM

I love contradictions!

brycejmcewen

08-07-2003, 04:32 PM

Am I completely uniformed? What medicinal properties does niccotine have? Is satisfying a craving self-medicating?

brycejmcewen

08-07-2003, 04:33 PM

Contradictions are fun!

karmattack

08-07-2003, 04:41 PM

"Nicotine, at low to moderate doses, is a central nervous system stimulant. Effects include tremors, an increase in behavioral activity, increased alertness, facilitation of memory and release of epinephrine from the adrenal glands. In addition to these central effects nicotine increases heart rate and blood pressure, inhibitis stomach secretions and stimulates bowel activity. Individuals experienced in the use of nicotine report pleasure and relaxation from this drug. In contrast, those who have never used products containing nicotine often experience nausea and vomiting and report the effects as being unpleasant."

Zens_7s

08-07-2003, 04:43 PM

As a non-smoker, I resent the fact that I have to breathe smoke with them. Alcohol is not a group activity unless I spill it on someone. Just because you want to smoke, why do I have to smoke too?

When I moved back to Chicago, after a stint in smoke-free bar land, I forgot how bad you stink after going out. Plus, I am allergic to smoke so I cough for a day or two afterward. All my smoker friends say (in a whiney voice) then stop going out. Why is that fair? It's not like I am going to a cigar bar and asking for it. I go to drink, which is a singular activity, not a forced group project like smoking.

[Note to Bryce, this is a general comment, not directed at you.]

brycejmcewen

08-07-2003, 04:47 PM

ARE YOU TALKING TO ME? YOU MUST BE TALKING TO ME, SINCE YOU REPLIED TO ME.

Oh, never mind.

[Note to self: read entire post before yelling at someone on a message board.]

I agree, smokers are smelly.

karmattack

08-07-2003, 04:47 PM

...although I would like to see how many people die in alcohol-related accidents each year vs. how many people die from second-hand smoke. We could even include injuries and make it first-hand smoke.

brycejmcewen

08-07-2003, 04:49 PM

What else is nicotine in besides cigarettes? As far as I know I haven't used products containing nicotine, and I am quite pleasant (with the exception of the odd screaming on a message board).

karmattack

08-07-2003, 05:00 PM

It's not in anything healthy, let's put it that way. It's in all tobacco products -- pipe tobacco, chew, snuff, dip. Like I said, it's in nicorette but that's like $30 (or $60! I just looked) for a large pack or something.
In all honesty, I'm not a fan of smoking. I do it once in a while because I got addicted at an early age (now I can go months without touching it and not realize) and it will occasionally sound good or serve a purpose. Personally, I would dip before smoking but that's FAR LESS socially acceptable; just listen to the groans of the message board gals. I still think that people should have the right to do it and have a place to do it.

Zens_7s

08-07-2003, 05:01 PM

<<although I would like to see how many people die in alcohol-related accidents each year vs. how many people die from second-hand smoke. We could even include injuries and make it first-hand smoke.>>

Yes, but the accident is not the fault of the product. It is the fault of the idiot who decides to drive home after ingesting the product. It's a singular stupid action. Smoke is just annoying because you have no choice but to breathe it in if you are going to stay at that place. So night out with friends = 2 days of coughing and asthma inhaler, a problem I got rid of for a year and a half in no-smoke barland.

Plus, alcohol does not float around the room and get people a little bit drunk all night. If it did, that would be fun. (Just kidding).

[QUIT F'N YELLING AT ME BRYCE! Don't make me come over there...]

jjcourtright

08-07-2003, 05:03 PM

I really enjoy a smoke when it is cold. Walking to class in the cold, walking to a bar in the cold; both seem like very good times to smoke. I am not a smoker; I have probably smoked 2 packs in my life. But...sometimes.

jjcourtright

08-07-2003, 05:06 PM

<blockquote>In reply to:<hr />
Plus, alcohol does not float around the room and get people a little bit drunk all night. If it did, that would be fun. (Just kidding).

[/ QUOTE ] That would be the coolest thing ever. Money a little tight this weekend? Well, come on over to my place. I'll spot you a beer or two...and then the rest of the night you can mooch of off everyone else's evaporating alcohol. Good times all around.

karmattack

08-07-2003, 05:08 PM

Yes, but alcohol DID float out the porch door and puke Burger King on my bushes!

I don't disagree with you, but I do think that all drugs effect people around the person using them -- whether a guy gets drunk at a ballgame and swears in front of a preacher's son, gets drunk and hits someone in a car or smokes enough cigarettes around me to make me smell like my skivvies are on fire.
I think non-smokers should have more places to go and have fun. The thing is, all cool people smoke and won't go there /forums/images/icons/tongue.gif

brycejmcewen

08-07-2003, 05:10 PM

I apologize. Feel free to come over here though. I think our city has been called 'the Chicago of the North'. I know we are considered the 'Windy City' of Canada. You'd be right at home. Also, starting September 1st, there will be no smoking inside any public place, including bars.

"If it did, that would be fun. (Just kidding)." All kidding aside, that would be fun.

Zens_7s

08-07-2003, 05:14 PM

See, all these American expats moving to Canada have a point! I could move to a city that is more of everything...more windy, more cold, more ability for me to go out and breathe the sweet clean air, and wait....didn't you say that city had the highest crime rate in all of Canada?....more crime, more big pimpin. I think it sounds like a place for me.

And yes, all kidding aside, it would be fun. Think of all the people that would hang out at JJ's apartment just to breathe the secondhand Amstel air.

jjcourtright

08-07-2003, 05:19 PM

Amstel Light air. I don't want no fatties hanging around.

karmattack

08-07-2003, 05:22 PM

You be goin' hoggin' all the TIME! Who you kiddin'?

(not to sidetrack the forum further, but Amstel Light is on my top ten all-time favorite beer list, light beer or no)

Zens_7s

08-07-2003, 05:24 PM

It's good he is trying to keep up the big pimpin image with the skinny ladies and the big furry hats.

You know, all this amstel light is making me feel a little woozy...

code6enterprises

08-07-2003, 05:24 PM

Only reason I haven't moved to Canada is because I hate the cold. Though, staying in Indana isn't helping that much.

jjcourtright

08-07-2003, 05:25 PM

I only recently have experienced it, but I choose to agree with you. I think it smells kind skank, but tastes wonderful.

brycejmcewen

08-07-2003, 06:31 PM

We don't have the highest crime rate, we are "The Murder Capital of Canada." This means that per capita, more people get murdered in Winnipeg every year than any other city. Someday, we hope to have the highest crime rate. Also, if I can secure some duffle bags, duct tape, and a band saw, we just might become the overall "Murder Capital of Canada", not just per capita.

Zens_7s

08-07-2003, 06:35 PM

Well that makes a big difference. I think I will move there.

[Goes into Kitchen, where husband is making a sandwich]

"Honey, We are Movin' to Winnepeg!"

[Husband drops sandwich and runs off with supermodel he met in Internet chat room about Yoga]

brycejmcewen

08-07-2003, 06:39 PM

You're very brave. Bring your husband, Winnipeg actually has a huge population of model-hot-girls. This way, you still get to keep your husband, and he still gets to cheat on you with models. It's a win-win situation.

Zens_7s

08-07-2003, 06:47 PM

Hmmmmm....that sounds like a winning situation for only one member of this family. Are they model-hot-men there? If not, what's the point.

code6enterprises

08-07-2003, 06:50 PM

No, but there's Bryce, that's close enough.

DangerSeeker

08-07-2003, 07:57 PM

Might I put in a pitch for everyone to move to Baltimore? We have warm summers, cool winters, day-trip close beaches, mountains, cities, parks, and historical landmarks.

We also are top ranked in murder and social diseases, have a nationally recognized awesome mayor (who I've seen play live with Shane MacGowan), and the college accross the street from my house has been cited by Playboy as one of the hottest in the nation for as long as I can remember.

In just a few short days, one of our neighboring counties will be entirely SMOKE FREE!

Excellent food, a good film scene, a growing music scene, and much much more!

It's like one big Canada, in an adorable little package.

Dr3vil

08-07-2003, 10:40 PM

I don't like to skirt issues, especially on the internet where I don't have the risk of blowing my chances with a hot religious chick.

1. Religion
F-k God. Well, that may be a bit harsh even for me, but certainly to hell with the church. Politics is corrupt enough without religion trying to butt in and add a whole new level of corruption. Plus the white-american God-lovin' Gun-totin' bigot agenda is pushed hard enough already.

2. Politics
Meh, the closer we can get to sweden without speaking swedish, the better. The socio-economic disparities of right wing laissez-faire capitalism just blow.

3. Euthanasia/Abortion (or 1 and 2 combined)
Easy, I'm Pro-Death like Kevin Smith. If life had value, you'd actually give a sh!t about the famine in Ethiopia or the atrocities in Congo, Liberia, and the Ivory Coast.

Democratic canditates seem almost futile in a political machine greased by big oil, so give Ah-Nuld a shot. Plus T3 was pretty cool, and that should count at least as much as marriage history or any other bullshit that takes precedent over governing ability. Better yet, make it Flint vs. Arnold and take fame out of the equation. I'd love matches like this, especially if we had Powell v. Hillary in 2008, but racist republicans wouldn't do that in a 100 years...

EDIT: flipped the "i"

code6enterprises

08-07-2003, 10:52 PM

Let me just throw in my opinion on abortion, since I haven'theard this said by any politicion. Would you rather have a child who hasn't been born yet, isn't fully grown, and isn't even alive yet not be born. Or would you have a child grow up being poor and have to struggle through life. Basically what I am saying is that abortion should be allowed if the family is barely getting by before the child or if their budget couldn't handle a child. Like, every abortion center should have a financial advisor to evaluate the mother's income and if she couldn't support the child, she can have it aborted if she wishes. Did that make sense?

Razorback

08-07-2003, 11:05 PM

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Meh, the closer we can get to sweden without speaking swedish, the better. The socio-economic disparities of right wing laissez-faire capitalism just blow.

[/ QUOTE ]

Swedens economy has taken a hit due to its "save all the people no matter the cost" attitude. I have family in Sweden and they would never wish anything Swedish on Americans.

RB

Zens_7s

08-07-2003, 11:11 PM

You had me right up until the last line.

<<Powell v. Hillary in 2008, but racist republicans wouldn't do that in 100 years>>
1. What? What, What? Colin Powell has been aggressively pushed numerous times to take a nomination, especially way back in 96', and HE has repeatedly made the choice not to. His aides have yet again declared he will not run for president. The Republicans have pushed Powell as hard as they can. Personally, I would love to see him run. I have a great amount of respect for Colin, but I also respect the man's ability to say no. If you doubt Colin's lack of ambition for the presidency, read his autobiography, "An American Journey". It will clear up why that that goal is not as large an interest to him as most people would think. Note: it is also a damn interesting book to boot.

2. I am confused your "racist" Republican Party comment. A remarkably stereotypic statement. I think the current staff and cabinet members are blended by talent, and also happen to have different genders and races. On the local level, the party has increasingly gained candidates of other races and genders back from the liberals. NOT because of their race and gender, but because they are talented people.

3. Here is an idea: Dr. Condolezza Rice vs. Hillary Clinton. There is a race to get everybody squawking about something.

Dr3vil

08-08-2003, 12:16 AM

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Swedens economy has taken a hit due to its "save all the people no matter the cost" attitude.

[/ QUOTE ]

Funny, so has ours with it's "screw everybody" attitude.

Zens_7s

08-08-2003, 12:22 AM

Hey Dr. Evil...sweetie...[pats on the arm]...I didn't say anything about Sweden, I think your reply button is broken. Move a little to the left, it is right next to your rant button. [beep] There ya go!

Dr3vil

08-08-2003, 12:22 AM

I think the most eloquent description of the current state of Rebuplican bigotry was made in the 2000 rally where they had gay republicans on stage and members had their heads turned away, praying for them. Until the republican party triumphs civil rights (i.e. THE REASON IT WAS ORIGINALLY CREATED!!!), I'll take minority republican candidates as token efforts.

And before you ask, no, I don't see a huge difference between racism and gay bashing, long as these people have another group of people who it's "safe to hate," they're happy.

EDIT: can't spell, thanks for not mocking me for it /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

Dr3vil

08-08-2003, 12:23 AM

Sorry, shoulda specified it as RB's quote.

EDIT: Oh, and ranting is all I can do. You see me post a single sentence, that was a one second rant /forums/images/icons/wink.gif .

Zens_7s

08-08-2003, 12:34 AM

I bestow full button forgiveness under the rules of the Swedish Handbook of Propriety.

I do agree that the Republican Party has 1000's of miles to go in regard to gay rights. I cringed during Bush's speech this week, where he said, "marriage is between a woman and a man.” I am forgetting the rest, but he brought up God in there somewhere.

It brings me back to a previous point I made...we have little influence over the opinions of the old guard. Even our normally wonderful grandparents and parents will say something cringingly old-fashioned and ignorant at times, because they are a product of conditioning. What we do have is the ability to elect new members who do not hold these outdated beliefs. We also have the ability to scream to the people that beg our vote, "I believe that marriage is a right that should be given to all people that want to accept the terms; with the exclusion of minors. If you want my vote and support, then tell me what you believe." If they disagree, then move on and find somebody who does not.

Zens_7s

08-08-2003, 12:38 AM

On a side note, I am happy to say my odometer just turned over.

<---- 1,000 completely useless comments since March.

YIPPEE!

ozchick

08-08-2003, 12:45 AM

<blockquote>In reply to:<hr />
I do agree that the Republican Party has 1000's of miles to go in regard to gay rights. I cringed during Bush's speech this week, where he said, "marriage is between a woman and a man.” I am forgetting the rest, but he brought up God in there somewhere.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm not going to pretend I read the rest of your arguments above this - I've got no idea about American politics but I do admire your passion...

Zens your quote caught my eye because we've been going through this shite here with our PM announcing he would never support legislation for legalising gay marriages because 'marriage is about survival of the species' - i kid you not - thats what he said. Apparantly married couples who don't procreate shouldn't be entitled to the same rights as married couples that do!!! Talk about out of touch! He is a total nob! In fact we've taken to calling him "bonsai" because he's a little Bush (geddit???)...

Anyhoo thats my 2c! (worth about 1c US!) /forums/images/icons/grin.gif

Zens_7s

08-08-2003, 12:55 AM

Wow - "survival of the species"? Talk about reaching for excuses to fit your own purposes. I do not know anything about your political structure in Australia either, but I do agree it sends a message to any married couples that do not procreate. My husband and I do not have children. Does that make us the bottom of the survival chain?

What happened to Zero Population Growth? Over-procreation has led to over-population causing survival problems. There are so many people producing unwanted children and such an alarming rate, you would think somebody's puny little head might see a positive side to the situation. If gay male couples are going to have children, they will have to adopt. Win! Unwanted child receives family who wants them. Win!

Cool stuff you brought up OzChick.

Dr3vil

08-08-2003, 01:34 AM

<blockquote>In reply to:<hr />
What happened to Zero Population Growth?

[/ QUOTE ]

Funny topic, good on a world wide scale, nasty for most wealthy contries. If a country can educate it's youth, more people=more gdp, which is why in some european countries with less than replacement pop growth are actually actively attempting to get their citizens to do more f-king!

EDIT: For the right wing though it's more the priciple of reproduction, universiality, Kantian ethics, that whole ball o' wax.

ILovePapaSmurf

08-08-2003, 01:34 AM

I am actually voting for Arnold. My family is huge supporters of him and his efforts in running for California. He is one for education, which is a big thing for my family, since almost all of them are teachers, and for getting rid of the gosh forsaken tripling of the car tax. That was bogus crap from the very beginning and should have never been allowed to go as far as it should have. Arnold is a great person to hold the Govenor spot and he really actually wants it and is not making it into a publicity stunt like that Gary Coleman [censored]! I haven't heard anything said by larry flint, so I am not going to say anything about that! Go Arnie! /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

Razorback

08-08-2003, 02:55 AM

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Funny, so has ours with it's "screw everybody" attitude.

[/ QUOTE ]

We don't have that attitude and our economy is in ok shape and only getting better.

<blockquote>In reply to:<hr />
I think the most eloquent description of the current state of Rebuplican bigotry was made in the 2000 rally where they had gay republicans on stage and members had their heads turned away, praying for them

[/ QUOTE ]

That is one of the factions of the Republican Party that keeps me from becoming a Republican. Eventually the party will push those types of people and organizations out. The younger, more liberal Republicans who want to see change and want the party to follow its intent will eventually push it into that direction.

Having said that, the Democratic Party is no less racist, homophobic, ignorant or intolerant that the Republican Party. The only difference between the main parties is that one is accused of ignoring minority groups on purpose and the other is loyally supported while doing that exact thing.

<blockquote>In reply to:<hr />
And before you ask, no, I don't see a huge difference between racism and gay bashing, long as these people have another group of people who it's "safe to hate," they're happy.

[/ QUOTE ]

There is no large support from Democrats for gay rights.

RB

Omaru

08-08-2003, 10:15 AM

Arnie is the running (for governor) man. If he gets in good for him, I'm sure he'll be popular. Hell even reagon was an actor to start with.

DangerSeeker

08-08-2003, 11:23 AM

"our economy is in ok shape and only getting better."

Oh, man! I almost laughed today's ramen noodle lunch out my nose and onto my worthless resume! Hooo....

Define good shape? Most Americans would say they are in good shape, which is why the national average creeps towards obesity as the standard. We're in good shape compared to the next guy, or in good shape because unemployment is going down, etc etc.

wonderboy

08-08-2003, 12:29 PM

i tink he is cool in the buff

Razorback

08-08-2003, 03:06 PM

That's nice... but it is because I don't buy into the hyperbole of our economy that I can safely say "we are in good shape." Things are only going to get better. Sorry if I don't jump on the "the sky is falling" bandwagon. Where we are hurting is in technology. People who were getting high-paying work in the tech fields are now looking for work elsewhere (I was a tech and I have not worked in the field for 30 months). However, jobs are opening up now and most of my tech friends are getting jobs again (some were out of tech work longer than I).

RB

psychofiend

08-08-2003, 03:09 PM

I think these are pretty cool t-shits I found on Arnold's campaign page.
http://www.arnold4gov.com/images/tshitpagesolid1.jpg

Dr3vil

08-08-2003, 03:23 PM

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the Democratic Party is no less racist, homophobic, ignorant or intolerant that the Republican Party.

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh, I agree completely, if they weren't always toting more old white men they wouldn't have to reaffirm a commitment to equality. Politicians don't usually ever get things done though, every status quo is virulently defended. However, token support can allow the rare individual to make actual impact, so it's something I look for.

And nothing is going to get are economy back in shape soon, they've been talking recovery for a strait year now and they'll be doing it for more than a year to come. While I believe current economic policies aren't helping things, you can't have a boom like we had in the 90s without some sort of recession on the other end, for the most part we're just paying the piper right now.

Dr3vil

08-08-2003, 03:51 PM

Seriously, would anyone pick the second shirt? I mean, there's no good reason they can't spell out "for" and the 80s Terminator isn't as good as the half robot faced one, but still...

DangerSeeker

08-08-2003, 05:50 PM

I wasn't going chicken little, but where I am , the sky is still pretty grey. I am, coincidentally, in the tech field, though. Our base pay hasn't increased here in five years, they've taken away every incentive plan we ever had (several grand paycut for me) and we consider ourselves lucky. Not so good.

Razorback

08-09-2003, 05:45 AM

Your sky can't be any more grey than where I live. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

The reality of the economy has nothing to do with Clinton or Bush (no matter what their respective oppositions might say); the current economic climate is the fault of Internet stocks and technology companies that never panned out and STUPID investors who threw away money on zero value ventures.

Anyone who thinks that a slowdown wasn't inevitable or necessary is ignorant of how things work... or living in a fantasy world (this is not directed at anyone in this thread).

RB

Zens_7s

08-09-2003, 12:49 PM

<blockquote>In reply to:<hr />
Our base pay hasn't increased here in five years, they've taken away every incentive plan we ever had (several grand paycut for me) and we consider ourselves lucky. Not so good.

[/ QUOTE ] It is hard to stay motivated under those situations. Our company went through that before its eventual demise. Here the tech jobs have dwindled down to almost nothing, or you make more working at the bookstore. This is the second time I have been through a purge; first in Silicon Valley, and now at home. Luckily there is a big outsourcing trend since smaller companies still need people that have my experience and can't afford to staff it. For right now I am doing consulting and it is panning out. That eventually will die off too.

I guess we learn to be adaptable, but I figure in a few years I will be out of the tech sector completely.

DangerSeeker

08-11-2003, 05:46 PM

It's definitely a bit rough. Apparently our company has announced cutbacks, though not in my department, and despite increased revenue this past quarter. We're apparently profitable, or at least revenue-retaining. For now... They're developing and pushing auto-fixes that will lessen the need for us.