Geekiest Argument Ever

[FanGirl]

At one point in our lives, whether we're an admitted geek or not, we're all gotten into a geeky argument. I was just curious what everyone's geekiest argument was about OR for those living in denial...geekiest argument they ever "overheard." And who won?

I'll admit to having gotten into a rather loud argument back in 1996 about at what point does Darth Vader learn that Luke is his son. Our argument was never decided and we were asked to leave because we were causing a "distrurbance" in the lobby. Picture two girls viciously arguing about that.

[ratm1966]

I'm not a geek, so I haven't been in any geeky arguments.

Oh wait...I gotta run...the mathematical equation I was running in my computer to determine just which is faster, Warp 9 or Hyper Space, is finished. I will let everyone know how it turns out.

[GoreFollower]

Only argument that I could remember is me and my hedro-lifemate were arguing about "Pulp Fiction" and "Reservoir Dogs." I believed "Pulp Fiction" was more better than "Reservoir Dogs." But he proclaimed that "Reservoir Dogs" was more better. We never drawed to a conclusion............... Me and him have to have a talk!

"Not here, not here, but right here!"-Chris Farley

[towelie99]

I regularly converse about BtVS. I don't really argue or anything, but it's scary the amount of [censored] I remember from that show.

[ratm1966]

The results are in. The mathematical equations say that neither Warp 9 or Hyper Space are the fastest. Apparently another member of movie poop shoot discovered that Ludicrous Speed is faster, and the only thing faster than that is Plaid.

Thans for the input Zens_7s.

[towelie99]

Oh yeah, Spaceballs, yeah, funny.

[Zens_7s]

Hey there buddy, it was my joke from another thread. Watch mocking the "plaid" in my presence.

...and no sir, I did not see Towlie playing with his dolls again.

[towelie99]

You leave the dolls...action figures out of this!

[ratm1966]

What are you talking about? I gave you the props you deserved.

[Zens_7s]

Not you RATM. Towlie was being sarcastic. And we know what happens to people who get sarcastic around here. They get sent to the big sarcasm carnival in the sky.

[towelie99]

Oh no they don't. You two would have been gone on your first day here if that was true.

So I made fun of Spaceballs! It's a movie that makes fun of other stuff!

[ratm1966]

Yeah! What she said.

"She's gone from suck to blow." - One of the coolest lines from the movie. Of course, there were so many good one liners.

[Zens_7s]

Spaceballs is one of the best satires EVER. Don't tell me that you don't believe in the power of Dark Helmet. This may be the part when we all break up.

How many assholes do we have on this ship!

[ratm1966]

My schwartz is bigger than yours.

[ratm1966]

I am surrounded by assholes!

[towelie99]

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My schwartz is bigger than yours.

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Did you just compare schwartz sizes with the master?!? WTF were you thinking? You are so dead!

[THX1138]

Dink dink. Dink dink dink dink dink dink, dink dink dink... Come on and sing along.

[THX1138]

I forgot a geeky arguement. Most were over Star Wars. I knew more about it than all my friends put together but we still argued. And they had to get me on the ones I had no answer to. But we still argued our idea or point of view have you.

One was about whether or not Vader's body disappeared cause they burnt his suit. I assured them that it did and that it was only the mechanical shell on the pyre but they weren't sure. I pointed out that his apparition was at the end so I won...for the time being. Than Lucas had to d!ck me over and not have Qui-Gon's body disappear. The arguement arose again but my reasoning was Qui-Gon didn't follow the Jedi code properly so he wasn't accepting his death. Hence the burning. We never really resolved that one. But I still won the Vader one.

[Zens_7s]

Ahh, nice reference to the dink dink song done to the tune of Bridge over the River Qwai.

Spaceballs has an answer for almost every situation in life. How many times as somebody said the combination "x" is 1,2,3,4,5. I then reply "So the combination is one, two, three, four, five? That's the stupidest combination I've ever heard! That's the kind of combination an idiot would put on his luggage!" and they look at me like I have lost it.

[ozchick]

My entry for Geekiest Argument Ever (although it was more of a discussion than an argument!)

My sister and I whilst in the line for LOTR heard some geekboys in front of us discussing Men in Black II. The one line we remember with most clarity and has provided us with much joy and laughter since then was when Geek "A" said "I heard they will explain why Tommy Lee Jones is so comfortable working at the Post Office" and the others with concerned looks on their face were saying "well they'd have to wouldn't they?".

They then continued to discuss the inner workings of MIBII for another 15 mins. After that they went onto talking about Scooby Doo and how Sarah Michelle Gellar was actually playing Buffy in SD. I kid you not. We were in stitches. /forums/images/icons/grin.gif

[THX1138]

Were they 8 years old? Or 25 with pocket protectors?

[ozchick]

They were probably 17/18 and I think they were in LOTR costumes (or maybe I just made that up to make a better story!)

[ratm1966]

But, wasn't her character in Scooby Doo basically an extension of her character in Buffy? I really don't think it is much of a stretch to go from a character who fights demons and vampires to a character that fights ghosts and demons. Of course, she gets to kill in Buffy.

[NOFX]

My comic book junkies and me usually argue over stuf like who would win certain battles, Which comic book company is better, and so on they usually end up being ties because about halfway through the argument we'll start screaming at each other and it usually ends with someone getting punched in the stomach.

[psychofiend]

The geekiest argument ever... sorry, there are so many geeky arguments in the freak community. I have been in an argument over whether the wrath of God card in Magic could kill artifact creatures and how fair it would be if the card could in fact kill artifact creatures when the card says "destroy all cratures" becaus in fact isn't an artifact crature also an artifact? God, that must be why I quit that game... next was the point of no return.

[jjcourtright]

Too many to even mention...I have my BS in Physics, so most of my adult life has been centered around geeky-Physics conversations...They usually boil down to making fun of Chemistry people.

[brycejmcewen]

Man, I HATE chemistry people. They think they're so superior with their beakers and Bunsen Burner's. Who do they think they are kidding with their "Periodic Table of Elements"?

[THX1138]

Psychofiend, that sounds like an argument my friends and I would have. But over Star Wars CCG instead.

[jjcourtright]

See, we always thought that we were superior to the Chemistry people. They only worry about the elements on the periodic table, but we have the whole damn universe. [censored], another geeky conversation.

[psychofiend]

I think that there have been so many arguements that I have won over the emporer that is pissing the good guys off (in lamens terms). Well, I thought everyone knew...

[karmattack]

That the ability to freeze time is impossible because of the following:
1. Time is the measurement of the speed an object moves over a distance. Since thoughts are electrical and chemical surges that travel (with a rate of speed) along a neural path (with a distance), freezing time would inherently freeze all thought and you wouldn't be able to recognize the stop.
2. The space around our bodies is filled with molecules (Oxygen, Hydrogen, Nitrogen, Carbon, etc). Using the rule that time is speed across a distance, if you could freeze time and, defying #1, recognize it......your body would be trapped in a solid block of molecules.
3. Moving your body at all requires a rate of speed of which time is, again, a factor. Impossible says I! Impossible!


...which pisses me off because it would be my first wish if a magic genie gave me three wishes. And you know what I would do? I'd take one dollar from a million rich people.

[psychofiend]

Uhhhh... way o'er my head, laddie.

[ratm1966]

Okay, then wish to be able to move through time, and not just freeze it.

[code6enterprises]

Or just to move very fast so that time wasn't an object to you.

[Dr3vil]

Me and one of my best friends got into such a bad argument about whether one of the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park spit venom or acid that we weren't on speaking terms for the rest of the summer. Granted, we were like 10 at the time, but that's still pretty nerdy.

[Dr3vil]

Actually, the only issue with stopping time would be suspending matter in a fluid state when it isn't in fact moving. Of course, using a broad interpretation of wave theory, that state might be as simple as a special vibration. "Stopping time" is simply keeping the effects of time limited to yourself and things with which you interect (otherwise anything you touched would seem infinitely dense and you'd suffocate among other effects), not including the consciousness of sentient beings. There would be of course no reason or concievable means for such a situation to take place, let alone be activated and deactivated at a whim, but it's not strictly impossible from what we know of science so far. At the least it's only slightly more preposterous than turning water into wine.

Of course, achieving an equivalent scenario by effecting the perceptions of a handful of people (Professor Xavier style), is quite simple, though not as impressive and still currently not possible.

Then again, it could even be as simple as effecting the perceptions of a single individual, the right drugs might convince someone the scenario has occured and obviously wouldn't believe anyone who said anything to the contrary because "they were frozen at the time." Sort of like Total Recall, you can't creat experiences out of thin air without a lapse of time, but memories can (theoretically) be inserted instantly and consist of even months of experiences, so a memory of a few moments of frozen time seems doable.

But of course this fantasy plays into the even grander question of if other people even exist. The posibilty is somewhat implied by an individual having immense control over a "universe" that is simply a sum of perceptions. The universe as anyone of us knows it is simply the sum of the perceptions of one being, so since it is actually very possible you are the only thing in the whole in the whole universe that exists, the ability to stop time would not at all be a preposterous extension of that possibility, although your previous passivity in reguard to the goings on in the universe would be perplexing.

Well, that's the answer pixie dust and Sartre's Being and Nothingness gives might give you, although if you read philosophy, Nietzsche's ANTICHRIST is a more fun place to start.

[ratm1966]

Okay, after that post, it is time to head back the the "The NEW Guess The Quote Game" thread and read something I can comprehend.

[DangerSeeker]

I have had way too many geeky arguments, because I keep a good stock of people around that can hold these conversations. Buffy, Angel, Simpsons, Star Wars, they're all a part of normal everyday conversation.

I do find it odd that in the past week or so, I've had two separate debates over the merits and pitfalls of She-Ra, Princess of Power. Both were brought up by the other person, and both led into a "strong woman role models" conversation, then straight into Buffy. Different points made along the way, too, so not just a rehash.

[FanGirl]

I love that this board can contain posts about how J&amp;SB kick rear ends as well as physics arguments on time travel.

[code6enterprises]

I'd like to have an argument like in Mallrats where they are arguing about the food court and the cookie stand.

[Dr3vil]

Sadly, I couldn't have that argument at my mall, IT HAS NO FOOD COURT! Sure, there are a grouping of about four or so food places at a corner (with others dispersed elsewhere), but there are no actual tables outside of the individual shops, each eatery from pizza to Wendy's to Chick-fil-a is entirely autonomous.

Hopefully, amidst all the construction happening locally they can build me a better mall with less than six jewlery stores and an actual food court.

[ratm1966]

Oh, let's not talk about shitty malls. We call ours the "Hall" because it isn't big enough to be considered a Mall. Our biggest store in it is a Big "K". Yes, you read that right, ours has a K-Mart in it. We do have a five screen theater in it though, but when a couple of the screening rooms only seat about 64 people, you can't really consider it a theater.

We have a little chinese place, a mexican restaraunt, a dairy queen and some local off the all pizza place in it.

[THX1138]

I live an hour and a half away from the mall of america. Been there once I didn't like it. It contained about TWO stores that I liked and the rest were a waste of my time. Oh and the arcade is a RIP-OFF.

[Zens_7s]

As malls go, we do have Woodfield here, which has more shopping square footage than the Mall of America. I must say, if you need to go mallin', this is like the mecca of that world.

During Christmas there is no where else in the world I would rather people watch.

[THX1138]

As a couple my fiancee and I love to people watch. I like to try and imagine what is going through that persons mind at that moment.

[Zens_7s]

My husband HATES it when I people watch. He finds other people, in comparison to himself, quite boring. In fact, he is the guy that checks his hair in the mirrors on the mall posts. Yeah, that guy. No wonder he hates it when I people watch! He knows I would be mentally mocking him.

[code6enterprises]

Oh, have you ever been to the Eden Prarie Mall(the place where Mallrats was filmed)?

[Zens_7s]

Maybe he hasn't...but I bet you have you little Indiana stinker! (Sorry, I always equate Indiana with Gary, IN. I shouldn't, but I do).

[DangerSeeker]

Great! I had the theme to Gary, IN stuck in my head for days! Now what am I gonna do? Hum it to myself a few more days. Thanks....

[karmattack]

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Actually, the only issue with stopping time would be suspending matter in a fluid state when it isn't in fact moving.

[/ QUOTE ] I guess I would have to give up the part of the wish where I would want to keep from aging during a time-freeze.

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Of course, achieving an equivalent scenario by effecting the perceptions of a handful of people (Professor Xavier style), is quite simple, though not as impressive and still currently not possible.

[/ QUOTE ] Not as impressive yes, but would still help me get that unnoticed million dollars. Plus it would still be possible for me to set off alarms or be recorded in some way.

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...control over a "universe" that is simply a sum of perceptions. The universe as anyone of us knows it is simply the sum of the perceptions of one being, so since it is actually very possible you are the only thing in the whole in the whole universe that exists, the ability to stop time would not at all be a preposterous extension of that possibility

[/ QUOTE ] Very true, although I don't think that if I transcended the universe and fully experienced myself not only as an actualized being, but as a central, solitary consciousness that could manipulate the laws of my percieved reality....that having millions of dollars and the ability to look up girls' skirts would mean that much to me anymore.
Good call though! /forums/images/icons/grin.gif

[karmattack]

People watching is the best! Well, not the best, but very fun. Is Woodfield the mall downtown in Chicago that is like, 7 stories tall? I didn't really notice anybody either time I was there. I was more focused on "Holy f'ck! This place is 7 stories tall!"

[FanGirl]

Woodfield is out in the burbs. I think you are thinking of Water Tower Place which is good people watching.

I'm a 4th generation Chicagoian. A soth sider to boot.

[karmattack]

Yep, you're right. That rings a bell now. It's sad; Chicago is only 4 hours away and I've only been there twice. I plan on moving there within the next two years.

[jjcourtright]

I can't sit in a restaurant or bar with out facing the door. 2 reasons: 1. If somebody is coming in to kill me, I will at least see my assasin before dying. 2. Bars and Restaurants are the place to people watch.

[karmattack]

I have to disagree with bars for one reason. Reruns.
1. There are a very limited amount of ways people attempt to [censored] each other and not succeed.

[jjcourtright]

Maybe you should try more bars. I do know what you mean about seeing the same people in the same bars on the same nights. So, mix it up. That should add some variety to your people watching.

[FanGirl]

Vegas is hands down the best place to people watch. No matter where you go there. Not sure which are more fun to watch the locals, the tourists, or the regulars.

[karmattack]

Good call, Fangirl. Yet another place I've been twice. Come to think of it, most of the states that don't directly surround Michigan....I've been to only 2 times. Weird. Anyhooters, Vegas is a great place for seeing a plethora of different people. I've found New York City to be another unbeatable place for people watching.

[Zens_7s]

&lt;&lt;Woodfield is out in the burbs. I think you are thinking of Water Tower Place which is good people watching.&gt;&gt; Water Tower Place is good people watching also. What you don't see there is the "oops, I think my mom and dad were brother and sister" type people. The burb malls get those people, thinking they are going in to the "city" for the day.

[code6enterprises]

Especially is you like to watch Elvis impersonators (I watched Honeymoon in Vegas last night, great flick).

[FanGirl]

"We're the flying Elvises. Utah Chapter!"

[Razorback]

HONEYMOON IN VEGAS (oh sorry wrong thread) /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

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